[Lnc-business] Cuba proposal

Sat Feb 25 18:40:40 EST 2017

Joshua to answer your specific question, I do not have specific language
for that part, and I find that part completely mute unless a resolution
passes, and I believe it properly the topic of discussion at an in-person
LNC meeting as part of a larger discussion as has been debated before.  IF
we were to do one for this resolution it would be very specific to this
resolution and not involve this larger structuring of "developing
relationships" etc which speaks of a larger term focus change which you
have been advocating for, and multiple others have opposed and thus so out
of step with the narrow purpose of speaking on the issue of these jailed
men.

I will vote no on any backdoor attempts.  Let's not play games with a real
political situation. The lobbying question is an important one that must be
had separately and apart and in the larger context of the purpose of our
Party, what our relationships should be with the old parties on the hill
etc.

- Caryn Ann

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We do not have a structure in place to do so and said structure is
> properly the subject of a separate discussion - which discussion has been
> on - and removed from - two separate meeting agendas.  If such discussion
> and plans were important enough to be on two in-person meeting agendas that
> is where they belong - not backdoored in a resolution.
>
> There is no reason to shove it here.  It could very easily be divided.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If a child went missing while walking home from school, what would be a
>> more effective response by the parents:
>>
>> 1)  Write a strongly worded chest-pounding resolution demanding that the
>> child re-appear on the doorstep.  Or,
>>
>> 2)  Enlist the help of others to search for the child.
>>
>> What is so offensive about suggesting we try to develop relationships
>> that could potentially have real-world impact on the things we say are so
>> important to us?
>>
>> It may give us an emotional buzz to make pretty speeches demanding
>> change, but what about actually changing the process so there is no longer
>> a need to make the pretty speeches?
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I will co-sponsor the resolution but not the directive which frankly is a
>> back door attempt for your prior push for us to be a  DC lobbying group and
>> an inappropriate insertion into this.  No bueno.
>>
>> Please divide this.
>>
>> I would support specific lobbyists my efforts for this IF it were clear
>> that this is  specific to this and not your other refocusing efforts.
>>
>> - Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:37 PM Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think there are very few circumstances where it makes sense for the LNC
>> to make public policy resolutions.  However, such is appropriate when done
>> in response to current events not addressed in our platform, and where
>> there might be confusion as to whether or not our communications staff are
>> empowered to express a position.  I think the Cuba situation qualifies but,
>> as I said, I was concerned by the wording of the proposal.  I have made a
>> new proposal below.  I seek either cosponsors or proposed edits.
>>
>> *Motion:*  The Libertarian National Committee expresses concern for the
>> detention of libertarian activists Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and Manuel
>> Velasquez by agents of the Castro regime in Cuba on February 2, whose
>> unexplained detention raises suspicions that these political prisoners were
>> targeted for their peaceful activism promoting limited government and free
>> markets. We further ask the U.S. government's State Department to place
>> diplomatic pressure on the Castro regime for information related to their
>> detention, an accurate and complete register of charges, and and for
>> assurances that they will receive fair and open trials on any legitimate
>> charges.  We further ask that the State Department pressure for their
>> immediate release should such information and assurances not be
>> forthcoming. We encourage Libertarian Party members and supporters to
>> contact their elected officials toward that end, and further ask that the
>> IALP join us in applying diplomatic pressure for the Castro regime to
>> release information related to their detention.
>>
>> Finally, staff is directed to make use of, and build, relationships with
>> staff at the State Department, staff employed by the Foreign Relations
>> Committee of the House and Senate, and staff of the members of said
>> committees, in order to transmit and lobby for the above requests.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>>
>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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