[Lnc-business] Cuba proposal

David Demarest dpdemarest at centurylink.net
Sat Feb 25 19:49:00 EST 2017


Forgive me but I am suspicious of the motive(s) behind the added paragraph. Is it a true backdoor maneuver or just a subtle ploy to maintain the 9/7/1 defeat of the original motion after a reworded motion is offered?

 

Spirited debate is fine but I believe we deserve straight talk about our motives. I respect that norm in our LNC discussions even when we emphatically disagree with each other. 

 

Thoughts?

 

~David

  

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From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Alicia Mattson
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:16 PM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Cuba proposal

 

If a child went missing while walking home from school, what would be a more effective response by the parents:

1)  Write a strongly worded chest-pounding resolution demanding that the child re-appear on the doorstep.  Or,

2)  Enlist the help of others to search for the child.

What is so offensive about suggesting we try to develop relationships that could potentially have real-world impact on the things we say are so important to us?

It may give us an emotional buzz to make pretty speeches demanding change, but what about actually changing the process so there is no longer a need to make the pretty speeches?

-Alicia





 

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com> > wrote:

I will co-sponsor the resolution but not the directive which frankly is a back door attempt for your prior push for us to be a  DC lobbying group and an inappropriate insertion into this.  No bueno.

 

Please divide this.

 

I would support specific lobbyists my efforts for this IF it were clear that this is  specific to this and not your other refocusing efforts.

 

- Caryn Ann 

 

 

 

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:37 PM Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com <mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com> > wrote:

I think there are very few circumstances where it makes sense for the LNC to make public policy resolutions.  However, such is appropriate when done in response to current events not addressed in our platform, and where there might be confusion as to whether or not our communications staff are empowered to express a position.  I think the Cuba situation qualifies but, as I said, I was concerned by the wording of the proposal.  I have made a new proposal below.  I seek either cosponsors or proposed edits.

 

Motion:  The Libertarian National Committee expresses concern for the detention of libertarian activists Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and Manuel Velasquez by agents of the Castro regime in Cuba on February 2, whose unexplained detention raises suspicions that these political prisoners were targeted for their peaceful activism promoting limited government and free markets. We further ask the U.S. government's State Department to place diplomatic pressure on the Castro regime for information related to their detention, an accurate and complete register of charges, and and for assurances that they will receive fair and open trials on any legitimate charges.  We further ask that the State Department pressure for their immediate release should such information and assurances not be forthcoming. We encourage Libertarian Party members and supporters to contact their elected officials toward that end, and further ask that the IALP join us in applying diplomatic pressure for the Castro regime to release information related to their detention.  

 

Finally, staff is directed to make use of, and build, relationships with staff at the State Department, staff employed by the Foreign Relations Committee of the House and Senate, and staff of the members of said committees, in order to transmit and lobby for the above requests.  

 

Joshua A. Katz

 

 

 

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