[Lnc-business] Cuban Prisoner Resolution - Take 2- request for co-sponsors

[Joshua Katz]

That's fine.

Joshua A. Katz


On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have no objection - Joshua and David???
>
> Tim will you co-sponsor with that change?
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Because e-mail ballots have no provision for amendment, I ask the
>> sponsors to modify the resolution before it goes to a vote by spelling out
>> instead of using the acronym IALP, so readers won't think the LNC is making
>> a request to the International Association of Logopedics and Phoniatrics.
>>
>> Tim Hagan
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:34 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Cuban Prisoner Resolution - Take 2-
>> request for co-sponsors
>>
>> I voted no because it made, in my view, unfounded accusations against a
>> foreign government, and because it contained no action other than 'calling
>> up' and 'demanding.'  I suspect others may have voted no for the same
>> reasons I did.  This alternative, in my mind, addresses the first concern,
>> and at least contains some hints about the second.  I can't say I'm
>> terribly enthusiastic, but since email ballots have no provision for
>> amendment, I don't think it's unreasonable for a second motion to try to
>> address concerns of those who voted no on the first.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Sam Goldstein <
>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did the first motion fail?  Why are we wasting more time on this.
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2017 1:19 PM, "Joshua Katz" <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I will cosponsor.  I fail, however, to understand the following clause:
>>
>> *We further ask for an inquiry and response from** the Castro regime for
>> information related to their detention,*
>>
>> Are we asking the Cuban government, which is holding the people, to look
>> into it?  Wouldn't they, presumably, already know the answer?  It's fully
>> possible that I'm missing something, though.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I took Joshua's new resolution to the author of the Nevada resolution for
>> input.  He suggested some changes and agreed that the last paragraph should
>> not be a part (in his non-LNC opinion).  IF this passes, specific direction
>> we can give to the staff can be part of a separate motion (and one that
>> does not require 3/4 btw).
>>
>> I would like to offer this as a new resolution and ask for co-sponsors:
>>
>> *The Libertarian National Committee expresses shock and concern for the
>> detention of libertarian activists Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and Manuel
>> Velasquez by agents of the Castro regime in Cuba on February 2, whose
>> unexplained detention raises suspicions that these political prisoners were
>> targeted for their peaceful activism promoting limited government and free
>> markets. **The two men are believed to be political prisoners imprisoned
>> in the infamous Melena II facility, known for appalling living and working
>> conditions. * *We further ask for an inquiry and response from** the
>> Castro regime for information related to their detention, an accurate and
>> complete register of charges, and and for assurances that they will receive
>> fair and open trials on any legitimate charges.  We further ask that the
>> Cuban government for their immediate release should such information and
>> assurances not be forthcoming. We encourage Libertarian Party members and
>> supporters to contact their elected officials toward that end, and further
>> ask that the IALP join us in applying diplomatic pressure for the Castro
>> regime to release information related to their detention and call upon the
>> national and international media to join us in these efforts.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
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