[Lnc-business] FB Posts

Sun Apr 16 00:41:41 EDT 2017

Clear definitive action needs to be clear productive action that will not
kill our page.

Something needs to happen.  Something productive, workable, and sustainable.

I intend to either introduce or co-sponsor a motion for a committee to do
just that.

I am in absolute agreement of a need for action.  Unreasearched action for
the sake of action (not whether it is the best plan) is not progress.

I think we all agree we have reached the next stage where things need to be
done.

The exact nature of the *things* must be carefully reasoned.

-Caryn Ann

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 12:15 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:

> I just got home.  Spoke to several folks along the way, since I was in the
> car for many hours.
>
> I still believe that a lack of clear, definitive action will not end well.
>
> ken
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Patrick McKnight <
> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's great that the LNC now has a better understanding of how the
>> social media team works. Transparency is always a good thing. I'm sure we
>> will come together to improve the quality and accountability of the process.
>>
>> We all share the same goals and I think we're headed in the right
>> direction. Communication and messaging is the key to growing the party.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Patrick McKnight
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was really trying to address everyone's concern by championing
>>> Steven's amendment.
>>>
>>> I hope we can all pull together that this is a problem I think most of
>>> us agree on, and that we might disagree on *how* to solve, but in good
>>> faith and good will we can.
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I actually liked a lot of what Stephen's amendment did, however I don't
>>>> know who I would *punish* with the responsibility that his idea
>>>> created.
>>>>
>>>> I also think that any committee tasked with this should also consider
>>>> policy recommendations for other social media outlets, as they offer
>>>> suggestions on Facebook. That would require a strong understanding of those
>>>> outlets and their mechanics. At the very least, finding members that have
>>>> an expertise in each of the outlets we utilize (YouTube, Twitter,
>>>> Instagram, Snapchat, and ugh... Google+). There have been discussions about
>>>> this within the APRC, however due to the confidential nature of the
>>>> committee, I cannot disclose those discussions or their outcomes (or lack
>>>> thereof).
>>>>
>>>> Brett C. Bittner
>>>>
>>>> Region 3 Representative
>>>> Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/>
>>>>
>>>> brett.bittner at lp.org
>>>> 317.537.8344 <(317)%20537-8344>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would really like to work with you all in crafting an analysis
>>>>> committee with well-thought out proposals for August.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Something needs to change.  *I think everyone agrees on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish emotions didn't get so high- I think ultimately we want the
>>>>> same thing.  And have the same very deep concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Patrick McKnight <
>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whitney,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with your sentiments. I'm slightly more inclined to take
>>>>>> action now but everything you say is true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <
>>>>>> whitneycb76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My issues are with the (perceived) 'authority' that volunteers have
>>>>>>> over our messaging on FB. Also, I don't care to burden staff members with a
>>>>>>> task that is not necessarily their specialty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I value the contributions and the creativity of the volunteers who
>>>>>>> put that material out, and I believe they do it better than our limited
>>>>>>> staff could do. However, I do not agree that volunteers should have the
>>>>>>> final say when it comes messages that we LNC members are on the hook for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The motion presented today was too restrictive, and oddly, at the
>>>>>>> same time a little ambiguous. It could have put our entire social media
>>>>>>> presence on hold. I am also concerned about the risk of losing those
>>>>>>> volunteers as a result of such an action.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we need an intervention, and a temporary policy, along with a
>>>>>>> steering committee, could be the answer. But, we could have just brought
>>>>>>> our social media action to a screeching halt, and that is not what we
>>>>>>> really want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about establishing a policy that includes staff or LNC members
>>>>>>> in posting approval, and holds the APRC more accountable, as well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to see a policy that establishes/clarifies the authority of
>>>>>>> the FB admins, moderators, and posters (who are not staff members). I also
>>>>>>> would like to establish specific guidelines for what is put out...in order
>>>>>>> to avoid these kinds of pitfalls and distractions in the future. Ideally,
>>>>>>> we won't put anything out there that causes people to resign their posts,
>>>>>>> or cease donations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whitney
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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