[Lnc-business] P.S. - Re: updated draft of 4/15/17 LNC minutes
Alicia Mattson
agmattson at gmail.com
Mon May 15 04:47:49 EDT 2017
Minutes don't have minority reports.
-Alicia
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> As for inducting your "more entertaining and detailed rendition" into the
> historical archives, I suggest that we include it with the minutes in the
> form of a minority report.
>
>
> Would you like to join me in striking a blow against the "tyranny of the
> majority" by co-sponsoring such a measure?
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (415) 625-FREE
> @StarchildSF
>
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 1:34 AM, Starchild wrote:
>
> Alicia,
>
> I confess the particulars of the coin-tossing didn't strike me as a matter
> of historical significance either, although I did not read Caryn Ann's
> request that it be included as a joke, merely as whimsical. But in seizing
> the opportunity to likewise embrace whimsy and dramatize the incident for
> posterity, you certainly managed to pack a lot into that short passage!
> Among the sly political commentary:
>
> • Asserting that a radical "gleefully" accepted authority granted by "the
> cult of the omnipotent state"
> • Invoking Roberts Rules of Order as a "sacred text" against majoritarian
> tyranny (I think many view it more along the lines of a necessary evil)
> • Attributing the choice of coin tosser to female privilege
>
> Notwithstanding the cleverly barbed remarks noted above, your use of
> language in general and the Monty Python and Isaac Newton references in
> particular were enjoyable and artfully written. With an evident
> storytelling ability to match a presumed command of the rules, you must
> have made a formidable Dungeons & Dragons dungeon master at some point in
> your career. :-)
>
> As for inducting your "more entertaining and detailed rendition" into the
> historical archives, I suggest that we include it with the minutes in the
> form of a minority report. I've often felt that the historical record could
> benefit from the inclusion of such reports, even at the cost of blaspheming
> against the "sacred text of Sir Robert" or invoking the wrath of the
> powerful Parliamentarians Guild.
>
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (415) 625-FREE
> @StarchildSF
>
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 12:18 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>
> Hey, what I wrote really happened...
>
> Plus, turning someone into a newt was considered prima facie evidence of
> being a witch, so maybe that's not the role you want to play in the plot.
> :-)
>
> I am baffled as to why this particular coin toss is perceived by some to
> be more of a historical event than the Guy McLendon / Doug Craig coin toss
> during the 2014 convention for the 5th at-large seat, or the drawing of
> names at the 2004 convention to break a tie between Admiral Colley and Sean
> Haugh. But if you believe it to be so, since I added New Jersey to the
> minutes, then will my more entertaining and detailed rendition of the event
> be inducted into the historical archives?
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "at which point she turned him into a newt. Motion to bring a duck to
>> the next meeting to determine if she used sorcery to manipulate this
>> outcome passed unanimously. But then he got better."
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:10 AM Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At the request of Ms. Harlos, I have re-drafted that section of the
>>> minutes to now read as follows:
>>>
>>> Then did Sir Redpath, his arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, hold
>>> aloft the New Jersey-branded, quarter-dollar medallion (acquired on his
>>> last visit with The Sopranos) extracted from his Bag of Holding, signifying
>>> by Divine Providence that Sir McKnight (as regional representative for the
>>> Garden State) was to cast the medallion, and that Maid Harlos should be
>>> granted woman’s privilege to call the coin in the air.
>>>
>>> Then did the objectors declare that flipping strange medallions
>>> encapsulated within the confines of purse strings is no basis for making
>>> committee appointments. Supreme executive power derives from a majority of
>>> the ballots, not from some farcical coinage-tossing ceremony.
>>>
>>> Their cries went ignored, the tyranny of the majority having spoken
>>> contrary to the sacred text of Sir Robert.
>>>
>>> With a grunt did Sir McKnight heave the medallion upward, only to be
>>> overcome by the natural forces described by Sir Newton. Maid Harlos did
>>> cry out “New Jersey!” as the medallion plummeted to the ground, leaving Sir
>>> Starr with the freedom fighter George Washington side of the medallion as
>>> his champion.
>>>
>>> Lo, the medallion of arbitration thoroughly dissed the face of the
>>> founding father and landed with its homage to the state facing skyward.
>>> Maid Harlos did gleefully claim the mantle of authority granted to her by
>>> the cult of the omnipotent state, and vanquished Sir Starr to the lowly
>>> position of committee alternate.
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn't kidding. I think the call is both relevant (the coin decided)
>>>> and is an interesting bit of history to be preserved. If the call of the
>>>> coin wasn't determinative I wouldn't think it should be included (just like
>>>> the date nor the metal components were not) but the actual call of "New
>>>> Jersey" was pertinent and an interesting bit of Libertarian lore.
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought you guys were joking, rather than making an actual request.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it important that it happened to be a New Jersey quarter? I also
>>>>> didn't note that the paper ballots after round 1 were from hotel-branded
>>>>> notepads and said "Wyndham Grand Pittsburgh Downtown" at the top, and "600
>>>>> Commonwealth Place, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 Tel: 412-594-5152
>>>>> <(412)%20594-5152> Fax: 412 594-5130 <(412)%20594-5130> wyndham.com"
>>>>> at the bottom.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you seriously want it there, I can add it, but I thought you were
>>>>> kidding.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Was there a problem with noting that I called "New Jersey" on the
>>>>>> coin toss?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:08 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The period for comments on the 04/15/17 draft minutes ended on
>>>>>>> Sunday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attached is an updated version, sans Waldo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without objection, the attached updated draft will be auto-approved
>>>>>>> on May 16, 2017.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
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