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Mon May 22 18:46:46 EDT 2017

And to be clear as well, if the committee does not want to have an
automatical read-only list like this one, under what authority can any
individual member be prevented from copying any or all emails and posting
them on a list themselves?

This is Party business not personal love letters.

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 4:24 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> And at the risk of speaking for Ms. Ruff (who follows this list due to our
> transparency), I think she is equally unclear.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> See David demonstrates exactly what the problem is.... neither of us know
>> what we can say and it is like walking on eggshells.  Our rights and duties
>> should be clearly spelled out.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 4:20 PM, David Demarest <dprattdemarest at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel, likewise on the Nebraska Unicameral. The Judiciary Committee
>>> chaired by Laura Ebke is wide open to the public as are all Unicameral
>>> committees that I am aware. I may have heard that they can optionally use
>>> executive sessions for votes which sounds dubious to me but I will check
>>> with Laura. I am not sure if and why the fact that we are a party not a
>>> legislature should make a difference.
>>>
>>> Darned if I know how to answer Whitney's question at this point without
>>> risk of impropriety until our transparency rules are defined but I do have
>>> serious concerns with the direction this is going and the possible
>>> justifications for lack of transparency. Perhaps a minority report will
>>> shed some light.
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, I wonder how the two major parties handle transparency
>>> on their Bylaws & Rules committees. I would hope that we compare favorably
>>> on the side of transparency.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On May 22, 2017 3:45 PM, <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All, and especially Mr. Katz in his role as chairman of the Bylaws
>>>> Committee,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has come to my attention and my brain momentarily allotted enough
>>>> bandwidth to really think about this.  Under what authority are our bylaws
>>>> meetings secret?  (No, Starchild has not hijacked my computer).
>>>> Specifically Ms. Harlos is acting like she just joined Fight Club.  Ms.
>>>> 1000 Emails being mostly clammed shut.  I am worried she might end up like
>>>> the kid from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory movie that got the
>>>> experimental candy.
>>>>
>>>> These are all the reasons for going into executive session in our rules
>>>> with a majority vote.
>>>> • Legal matters (potential, pending, or past)
>>>>
>>>> • Regulatory and compliance matters (potential, pending, or past)
>>>>
>>>> • Contractual compliance
>>>>
>>>> • Personnel matters (including evaluation, compensation, hiring, or
>>>> dismissal)
>>>>
>>>> • Board self-evaluation
>>>>
>>>> • Strategic issues (only those requiring confidentiality)
>>>>
>>>> • Negotiations (potential, pending, or past)
>>>> Other topics require a two-thirds vote of LNC.
>>>> No action can be taken while in Executive Session.
>>>> Discussion of action which may be taken in Open Session can occur.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reasons for going into Executive session are supposed to be listed
>>>> if a vote was taken.
>>>>
>>>> But when I ask about the vote to go into executive session I am told
>>>> that there was no vote.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that we have rules all over the place and I might be missing
>>>> something, hence I am asking, Why?
>>>>
>>>> Someone enlighten me as to what’s up before I slam big brown(11th ed.)
>>>> on down.
>>>>
>>>> How is this remotely in line with what this organization stands for?
>>>> I would flip a gasket if the Louisiana Legislature was operating in
>>>> this manner.   This wouldn’t pass muster under Sunshine Laws for
>>>> government.  Let that sink in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Windows 10
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
> --
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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