[Lnc-business] Seeking Cosponsors - Motion on Military Policy

Wed May 31 20:04:46 EDT 2017

FYI - one of my other state chairs (UT) informed me in no uncertain terms
that he wished his regional representative to be too busy doing other
things at this time and not to be involved in these things.  There is a
special election coming up in UT and other projects that can unite and
bring some positive energy.

I have spoken personally before with the rest of the Chairs - I have a good
sense of their mood, and I don't anticipate there being any push for me to
entangle myself in this.

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I understand Arvin, but I think there will be opportunity to clarify our
> stand, and right now my region is weary from divisiveness.  Since I do
> share a home with one of the regional chairs (CO) I sought his opinion, and
> he said precisely what I said above - the definite mood in my last
> communications with the region on this is that they wish their regional
> representative to be doing other things.  At another time perhaps they
> would be more conducive.  I understand you sent this to the State Chairs
> list, if any of my regional chairs strongly wants to support, they know to
> be in touch with me.
>
> I know I operate my regional representation different from others, and
> there is no one size fits all, but I try to be participatory and keep in
> mind that I represent others, not just myself, and I just don't see my
> region as being behind it.
>
> I am open, however, to having my mind changed by members and leaders in my
> region.  I posted this in my regional discussion group.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Caryn Ann,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply on this. Given that we have a resolution that was
>> just sent to the entire membership, and will be posted on the main facebook
>> page about military individuals, it seems very, very remiss to ignore
>> military policy. With one resolution standing, our stance will almost
>> certainly be misunderstood to be the militarist one.
>>
>> All that most Libertarians will see from us, aside from the few that are
>> my personal facebook friends, will be a heavily pro-military resolution
>> during a time of unconscionable military action. To fail to speak on this
>> at this time would be misleading and detrimental to our movement.
>>
>> In Liberty,
>>
>> Arvin
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> While I am sympathetic and would be inclined to vote yes and generally
>>> like to co-sponsor almost anything, I do not think my regional chairs want
>>> to be asked about another resolution on this topic at this time, so out of
>>> respect for their pretty clear sentiments last time, I cannot co-sponsor.
>>> If it gets enough co-sponsors and comes up for a vote, I will then poll my
>>> chairs, but right now they are weary and busy, and without a specific
>>> triggering event, I think I am respecting their wishes to sit it out unless
>>> it comes to a vote.
>>>
>>> My personal advice:  revisit this at some other time.  Though I know
>>> Facebook is its own unique microcosm, we need a uniting event not another
>>> polarizing one.  I am sure Mr. Trump will give us plenty of opportunities
>>> to issue strident resolutions.  I love me some strident resolutions.  It
>>> just isn't the time and I know I differ from other regional representatives
>>> in this, I try to honour the wishes of my state chairs unless my conscience
>>> really compels me otherwise.
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am seeking cosponsors for the following draft motion:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whereas The U.S. spends more on military than the next 8 nations
>>>> combined
>>>>
>>>> Whereas, involvement in NATO has caused the U.S. to build a military
>>>> much larger than what is needed for defense
>>>>
>>>> Whereas, current military policy has destabilized regions and lead to
>>>> blowback and contributed to terrorist recruitment
>>>>
>>>> Whereas, trade has been able to stop problematic ideologies when
>>>> violence could not, as has happened in Vietnam
>>>>
>>>> Whereas current military policy has misused many well meaning
>>>> individuals for purposes other than defense against aggression often as
>>>> parts of attempts to act as the world’s policeman
>>>>
>>>> Resolved, The Libertarian National Committee rejects and repudiates the
>>>> current U.S. military policy of overreach, world policing, and nation
>>>> building; demands that the U.S. military immediately shut down all foreign
>>>> military bases, cease involvement in foreign conflicts, end all current
>>>> foreign military operations, and bring the troops home; demands that
>>>> military spending and employment, if any, be reduced to the level necessary
>>>> only for defense; demands immediate U.S. withdrawal from NATO; and demands
>>>> an end to all trade sanctions.
>>>>
>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>
>>>> Arvin Vohra
>>>> Vice Chair
>>>> Libertarian Party
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Arvin Vohra
>>>>
>>>> www.VoteVohra.com
>>>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>>>> (301) 320-3634
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Arvin Vohra
>>
>> www.VoteVohra.com
>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>> (301) 320-3634
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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