[Lnc-business] Convention Oversight Committee Housekeeping

[Joshua Katz]

Is there a particular reason we couldn't fix it this way, by email?

Joshua A. Katz


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Also, the reason for not waiting till August is we will possibly be having
> some very substantive votes before the August LNC meeting and I would
> rather have the full COC able to legally vote.
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would be in favour of that.  Often times person who will end up filling
> LNC vacancies are those involved already somewhere and showing leadership.
> I don't think we should be removing those people from consideration to fill
> a remaining term or making the other committees suffer.  The spirit of the
> rule is to make a good faith to diversify positions, but having a crystal
> ball shouldn't be part of it.
>
> So I would support.
>
> Caryn Ann
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Caryn Ann,
>>
>>
>> I was actually considering broaching that change for the meeting in
>> Kansas City.  I think we should add a provision that if you are on a
>> committee and your status changes by becoming LNC or Alternate or other
>> such shift like being one of the regional reps on the ASC and you end up
>> appointed as in an At Large position, you maintain your position on the
>> committee for the duration of that term.
>>
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I prefer the second.  And wouldn't there be a different threshold?  If we
>> are going to over-ride the policy manual  - we do it the right way by
>> editing.
>>
>> I think perhaps this brings up something that might need to be a
>> permanent change - when people end up on the LNC but were not when they
>> were appointed.  I would be amenable to looking at something on that route
>> too.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We find ourselves with a bit a problem that needs fixing.  The policy
>>> manual defines the Convention Oversight Committee as follows:  "Four LNC
>>> Members or Alternates, plus 3 non-LNC members who are recommended by the
>>> Convention Oversight Committee"  "LNC members selected by the LNC, non-LNC
>>> members selected by the LNC Chair".
>>>
>>> Erin Adams has moved from being a non-LNC member to being a LNC
>>> Alternate.  I have two alternatives on how to do it.  I highly value Erin's
>>> work ethic and contribution to the COC and wish to keep her as a full
>>> voting member of the committee.
>>>
>>>
>>> First, we could just do the following:
>>>
>>> "Move to ratify Erin Adams, Whitney Bilyeu, William Brackeen, Sam
>>> Goldstein, Daniel Hayes, Alicia Mattson, and BetteRose Ryan as members of
>>> the Convention Oversight Committee for the current term, notwithstanding
>>> any rules in the LNC Policy Manual."
>>>
>>> I included all the names because if we ratified one person but not the
>>> others, that might create some other problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This following option is a bit messier but more certain:
>>>
>>> "Move to amend the chart in the LNC policy manual section 1.03 to define
>>> the size of the Convention Oversight Committee as,
>>> 'Seven members composed of up to five LNC Members or Alternates, plus up
>>> to three non-LNC members who are recommended by the Convention Oversight
>>> Committee.';
>>> to sunset upon expiration of the current COC term and to ratify Erin
>>> Adams' position as a member of the Convention Oversight Committee."
>>>
>>>
>>> My reason for the "up to" language is because life has a funny way of
>>> throwing us twists.  IF for some reason a LNC member of the COC were to
>>> vacate their seat before the end of their term, I would expect us to
>>> restore the composition to 4 LNC and 3 non LNC members of the COC. The
>>> sunset is there to restore the original intent once this term is over.
>>>
>>> I am not seeking co-sponsors for either motion yet, as I am checking a
>>> sense of the body to see which route we prefer to use.
>>>
>>> Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC At Large Member
>>> LNC COC Vice-Chair
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
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