[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of Joe Buchman

Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos at gmail.com
Tue Jul 11 23:26:29 EDT 2017


Thank you Ken.  I will be asking Joe for further details.... I heard he did
great in the debates tonight.

This is a banner year - the donation we gave to Wicks helped drive activist
momentum and was a great unifying rallying point.

-Caryn Ann

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:

> I cannot co-sponsor because I'm an alternate.  However, I have had several
> conversations and I want to chime back in and revise my statements from my
> initial email.
>
> I do not know Dr. Buchman personally, and nothing I said before was meant
> to be personal.  As a former campaign manager, anything that sounds like "I
> can't win" makes me want to set the room on fire. I'm a bit sensitive on
> that matter.
>
> Since that time, I have learned more information.
>
> The core issue is the use of the funds.  If the funds are being used to
> increase the ability of the campaign to do long-term outreach (supplies
> promoting the LP, building local parties, etc.), I could be convinced to
> support such a measure.  By contrast, if the funds are being used to
> purchase supplies like yard signs or other "temporary" campaign-related
> costs, I'd definitely be against it.
>
> I'm just an alternate, so my vote rarely counts.  But after obtaining more
> information and further thought on the matter, I felt it necessary to
> append my previous comments with these.
>
> ken
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe is also a friend of mine, and yes, he is "okay" with it, meaning no
>> ill feelings as he is a long-term and dedicated member of the Party who
>> understands that this is business, he certainly urged me to ask, and has
>> been asking me for updates-- so it would mean a great to him and his
>> campaign.  This is the only Federal race going on right now - and he just
>> scored a victory getting into a previously denied debate.  I have explained
>> the realities of the situation with having no set standards yet and he
>> understands -- but he certainly did ask me to pursue this.  And members
>> have asked me about it.
>>
>> As to funding ballot access, though I respect my predecessor Norm
>> immensely - he and I are of different minds when it comes to ballot access
>> funding - he would routinely vote no.  I have always voted yes.  There are
>> many reasons for that but one issue that arises is that Region 1 gets short
>> shrift in that - or it can **appear** so.  I am fully on board with the
>> idea that nationwide ballot access benefits everyone, but it is certainly
>> true that these funds do not go to Region 1 - with the highest numerical
>> amounts of affiliates (9 states).  Utah is Region 1 and helping with a
>> Region 1 campaign helps to balance this out and thus far, I have had the
>> full support of my regional chairs when supporting ballot access funding
>> because I press the case that region 1 is getting benefits from pushing
>> national memberships and in their national membership.
>>
>> I also urge other members to give a contribution.  I will be doing so
>> when I see how this month's finances go.
>>
>> I thank David and Whitney for co-sponsoring.  *I ask for one more.*
>>
>> --Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:13 PM, William Redpath <wredpath2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Buchman is a multi-decade friend of mine.  I thank him very much for
>>> running--he jumped in at the last minute when another candidate backed
>>> out--and wish him the best in his Campaign.  I have personally contributed
>>> $201 to Joe Buchman's Campaign.  I urge other members of the LNC to do so,
>>> as well.  However, I am opposed to the LNC contributing to his Campaign.  I
>>> have discussed this with Joe, and he is OK with no LNC funding of his
>>> Campaign.  I wish we did, but the LNC currently does not have the resources
>>> to be contributing to many, if any, candidates, particularly when we have
>>> other needs, including ballot access in Tennessee and Alabama.  And, we
>>> have Ohio to finish, and that is a big job.
>>>
>>> I ask people not to co-sponsor this motion and, should it become a
>>> motion, to vote "No."
>>>
>>> Bill Redpath
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Tue, 7/11/17, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=carynannharlos@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to
>>> support campaign of Joe Buchman
>>> To: "Libertarian National Committee list" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=lnc-business@hq.lp.org>>
>>> Cc: "Joseph Buchman" <drbuchman at gmail.com
>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=drbuchman@gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 1:31 PM
>>>
>>> Joe got in
>>> the debates - this is getting momentum.  I am once again
>>> asking for the needed co-sponsors.
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, David Demarest <
>>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will co-sponsor.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2017 12:32 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joe got in the debates - this is getting momentum.  I am once again
>>>>> asking for the needed co-sponsors.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sure you are already on it but would this warrant a letter from
>>>>>> Oliver?  It sounds like it may.  Only including two people from the old
>>>>>> establishment parties in the debate, for the sake of time as the criteria I
>>>>>> have seen for the inclusion, doesn't seem unbiased to me.  AFP is a
>>>>>> non-profit as I recall. That might put AFP in an even more precarious
>>>>>> position than the television station in Montana.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As this is regarding potential legal action, I don't expect much of a
>>>>>> response here on this public list.  I am certain the letters,
>>>>>> correspondence, filings and other actions, if appropriate, will be put into
>>>>>> action by those with the letters J.D. behind their name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 1:31 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Buchman sent this to me this morning to provide an answer to
>>>>>> Ken's inquiry and to give information and a request about the debates he
>>>>>> has been excluded from.  It did not make it to my inbox however and he
>>>>>> re-sent to me after speaking on the phone this evening and since that time
>>>>>> he has been officially denied debate access (as per the response I posted
>>>>>> in another LNC business thread).  But please take this information into
>>>>>> consideration in this request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that we want to develop a candidate assistance procedure.  And
>>>>>> I understand that is on the agenda for August. But I ask please do not let
>>>>>> that get in the way of assisting a candidate now.  It is not the fault of
>>>>>> the candidates that we don't yet have such a procedure and this is in the
>>>>>> only Federal race now - great opportunity to get attention for a committed
>>>>>> Libertarian candidate.  Please consider this request..... and in member
>>>>>> relations purpose, it does not help member confidence when we are not
>>>>>> assisting when we can in a race that has the sole stage right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>Why won't we assist with the campaign of this candidate in the
>>>>>> Federal race?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>Because we don't have criteria for assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>Why don't you have criteria?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>Because we haven't done it yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>So candidates suffer from LNC lack of establishment of protocol?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mark Wicks donation invigorated that race and our members.  This
>>>>>> could do likewise.  Please co-sponsor my request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The below is from Dr. Buchman:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am asking for help from those who have connections with Americans
>>>>>> for Prosperity in my request to be included in their Third District
>>>>>> candidate debates.  Please see the email I sent to them copied below and
>>>>>> help if you can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said in the KSL interview, the first step toward winning is
>>>>>> getting into these debates.  I see getting into the debates as where the
>>>>>> focus should be, just as a mountain climber focuses on the next step, or
>>>>>> Governor Johnson focuses on the next curve in his mountain road.  To focus
>>>>>> on "winning the race" rather than those immediate intermediate goals is not
>>>>>> a winning strategy; it's delusional.   I did not say, and have never
>>>>>> said,  "I am not going to win."  What I said was: "I am not running
>>>>>> to win . . . primarily I am running, first, to get into the debates."   I
>>>>>> also said: "The chances of a Libertarian winning the Third District
>>>>>> in Utah are not impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go for it; I’m
>>>>>> giving it everything I have. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sure wish saying that had made every KSL and LNC listener "happy."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll leave it to others to discern if my interview with Doug Wright
>>>>>> (has invited me back again) is fairly characterized as a "concession
>>>>>> speech."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that has left you off-put for listening to the entire interview,
>>>>>> I'd ask you  read the following for the full context and  reconsider:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WRIGHT: This gentleman has some KSL connections that we’ll talk about
>>>>>> some other time, but I want to really get into the motivation, what caused
>>>>>> you to want to get into this race; you’ve got a PhD, you’re running as a
>>>>>> Libertarian, so let’s just set the stage. Give us a little background on
>>>>>> you and why you are in this race.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUCHMAN: You know Doug, when I walked into your waiting room, I see
>>>>>> there in the lobby, huge letters on the wall, “A Light of Truth in the
>>>>>> World.” The truth that I run on is the foundation of Libertarian politics
>>>>>> which is the fundamental principle in our philosophy that drives our
>>>>>> politics, our ethics, our morality and those other fields of philosophy of
>>>>>> which politics is one, is pretty simple, that is that no human being should
>>>>>> have the right to initiate force, violence against others, to initiate
>>>>>> force. And then the second core principle is that you either own your
>>>>>> physical body, it’s yours to do with as you see fit, or you’re part slave;
>>>>>> you’re owned by someone else. So we take the principles of non-initiation
>>>>>> of aggression and self-ownership and we apply them to politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like you said, I am a college professor, that’s where I am coming
>>>>>> from.  I am not running to win, the chances of a Libertarian winning the
>>>>>> Third District in Utah are not impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go
>>>>>> for it; I’m giving it everything I have . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WRIGHT: right . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUCHMAN: . . . if I can get Rosie O’ Donnell to retweet something,
>>>>>> who knows . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WRIGHT: It worked for Dr. Allen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUCHMAN: . . . or Drew Carey, or Penn & Teller or some other
>>>>>> Libertarians who we are reaching out to, who knows? Anything is possible;
>>>>>> but primarily I am running, first of all, to get into the debates. We need
>>>>>> a Libertarian voice in the debates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My email to Americans for Prosperity:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Joseph Buchman <drbuchman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 3:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Third District Candidate debate
>>>>>> To: infout at afphq.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am writing as the Libertarian Party of Utah's candidate for the
>>>>>> Third District to request inclusion in the debates sponsored by Americans
>>>>>> For Prosperity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, for example, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154532862
>>>>>> 572120&set=gm.1744266952269118&type=3&theater
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am on the ballot as a General Election candidate for this office,
>>>>>> see:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-candidate-filings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the absence of an invitation to participate in your debates, may I
>>>>>> inquire of the standards/process for your selection of candidates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your attention to this request,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These debates were announced on Friday; the first debate is to be
>>>>>> held tomorrow (Tuesday evening).  I'll be there either in the
>>>>>> audience or on the stage. See:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.sltrib.com/news/5485360-155/two-debates-set-for-t
>>>>>> hree-republican
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And while they are now being repurposed as for the "Republican
>>>>>> primary candidates only" please note the portion of the article which
>>>>>> indicates the Democrat was invited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Democrat Kathie Allen — who's raised nearly $700,000 in donations —
>>>>>> did not respond to an invitation to join the event, Everton said."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evelyn Everton is the Utah State Director for Americans for
>>>>>> Prosperity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you'll listen to the entire KSL interview and form your own
>>>>>> opinion of it.  I'm sure I could have done better and continue to seek your
>>>>>> constructive feedback as well as help in having Americans for Prosperity
>>>>>> include the Libertarian in their debates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for your consideration,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> _______________________
>>>>>> Joseph G. Buchman, PhD
>>>>>> 584 Hillside Circle
>>>>>> Alpine UT 84004
>>>>>> +++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very good points Starchild and both views are represented in our
>>>>>>> membership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I certainly hope we don't divisively "take sides" on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're certainly not the first Libertarian to express a
>>>>>>>> disappointed emotional reaction to a candidate's realistic appraisal of his
>>>>>>>> or her chances, but to you and any other Libertarian who has felt this way,
>>>>>>>> I say take heart! One can lose in conventional terms and still win in
>>>>>>>> libertarian terms. A *conventional* win means the warm body you
>>>>>>>> support occupying the sought-after office. A *libertarian* win,
>>>>>>>> however, means advancing the cause of freedom! Such wins can happen in any
>>>>>>>> number of ways – building momentum for a future run, exposing more people
>>>>>>>> to libertarian ideas, building the party, etc. Of course the cause of
>>>>>>>> freedom is *usually* more likely to be advanced by a Libertarian
>>>>>>>> occupying the sought-after office than by not occupying it – but it isn't
>>>>>>>> the be-all, end-all it's too often made out to be. In some ways, the real
>>>>>>>> fight begins *after* an election is won. If an elected Libertarian
>>>>>>>> isn't mentally prepared to stick to his or her libertarian principles and
>>>>>>>> positions, or doesn't have solidly libertarian principles or positions to
>>>>>>>> begin with, the real, post-election fight for what s/he will do in office
>>>>>>>> is as good as lost. Amid the statist culture and pressures in which s/he
>>>>>>>> will be immersed, such an elected Libertarian will have little chance of
>>>>>>>> surviving with an agenda to advance the cause of freedom intact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Predicting* an election loss also isn't the same thing as
>>>>>>>> *conceding*. When a candidate *concedes* a race, s/he is saying
>>>>>>>> "the campaign is over, my opponent won". Clearly Joe Buchman is saying no
>>>>>>>> such thing! From appearances, he is running and will continue to run a
>>>>>>>> vigorous campaign and seek as much exposure for our ideas and as many votes
>>>>>>>> as possible. He is running to win in libertarian terms. But is it wise to
>>>>>>>> predict a loss at the ballot box? While miracles occasionally do happen
>>>>>>>> and I've suggested candidates leave the perceptions door open by not
>>>>>>>> entirely ruling out the possibility of getting elected, I would much rather
>>>>>>>> see a Libertarian fighting a long-shot campaign – and this is obviously a
>>>>>>>> long-shot campaign; no Libertarian has come close to being elected to
>>>>>>>> Congress – say flat-out that s/he won't win, than to flat-out say that s/he
>>>>>>>> will. Any candidate facing those kind of odds who predicts electoral
>>>>>>>> victory is either deceiving him/herself, or attempting to deceive others.
>>>>>>>> The former shows a poor grasp of reality, while the latter shows a lack of
>>>>>>>> integrity. Neither reflects well on the candidate! Joe, by contrast, showed
>>>>>>>> his good character by giving an honest and realistic assessment of his
>>>>>>>> chances. For every person out there who thinks, 'I want to vote for someone
>>>>>>>> who tells me s/he's going to win', I believe there's another person out
>>>>>>>> there thinking, 'I want to vote for someone who has integrity and tells the
>>>>>>>> truth'. To which type of voter mentality should we, as the Party of
>>>>>>>> Principle, be trying to appeal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                      ((( starchild )))
>>>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>                           RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>>>>                                    @StarchildSF
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found out about this campaign yesterday (now, 2 days ago) and the
>>>>>>>> referenced KSL interview almost immediately starts with the candidate
>>>>>>>> saying "I'm not going to win."  It made me sad. More importantly, I can't
>>>>>>>> agree to give money to someone who has already conceded the race.  I mean,
>>>>>>>> what is the money going to be used for?  Losing better?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By contrast, from what I can see, candidates like Laura Ebke and at
>>>>>>>> least one of the recent converts in NH are gearing up re-election campaigns
>>>>>>>> with the intent to win. They certainly haven't publicly conceded, anyway.
>>>>>>>> There are lots of candidates throughout the country gearing up for 2018
>>>>>>>> races. 4 L converts and many other candidates looking to run winnable
>>>>>>>> races.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this body decides to support candidates, I'd really rather see
>>>>>>>> this body support candidates that are running to win.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I received the below request from Dr. Joe Buchman
>>>>>>>>> (Utah) and have been speaking with him about this for the past few weeks.
>>>>>>>>> I would like us to consider assisting him to our maximum allowed of 5K.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To the members of the LNC:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz nine days ago from the
>>>>>>>>> Third District of Utah has created a Special Election to be held 7
>>>>>>>>> November 2017.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe Buchman is the Libertarian Candidate for that seat and
>>>>>>>>> following a special election convention by the Libertarian Party of Utah is
>>>>>>>>> on the ballot for November 7th.   There is a Democratic
>>>>>>>>> opponent.  Three Republicans will face each other in a primary next month.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See: https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-cand
>>>>>>>>> idate-filings
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is, we believe, the only remaining contest for federal office
>>>>>>>>> in 2017 with a Libertarian candidate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To date Dr. Buchman has invested $1,000.00 of his personal funds
>>>>>>>>> in the campaign and has raised approximately $250.00 from other donors,
>>>>>>>>> with promises for about $500 in process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe has just been scheduled as the sole guest for the first hour
>>>>>>>>> of Coast to Coast AM, a national networked late-night radio talk show with
>>>>>>>>> an estimated *2.5 million listeners*, for *Saturday evening, July
>>>>>>>>> 29th, 10:05PM to 11:00PM Pacific time*.  Past show hosts Art Bell
>>>>>>>>> and Rollye James were self-identified Libertarians, and past guests have
>>>>>>>>> included Judge Jim Gray, Michael Badnarik, Aaron Russo, Harry Browne, Andre
>>>>>>>>> Marrou and Dr. Buchman himself (in 2008, when he last ran for the US
>>>>>>>>> Congress).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=libertarian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe will be discussing his campaign for the US Congress, his
>>>>>>>>> platform as an expression of the NAP and Self-Ownership paradigms, will be
>>>>>>>>> directing listeners to his website and will be requesting donations.  The
>>>>>>>>> Coast to Coast website will also provide a link to his campaign site -
>>>>>>>>> www.GotoL.vote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a request for national party funding for this singularly
>>>>>>>>> important Special Election campaign.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz has already generated
>>>>>>>>> significant national media attention, and this race is likely to continue
>>>>>>>>> to generate national media coverage as the replacement of Congressman
>>>>>>>>> Chaffetz will reflect, to some degree, a measure of voter confidence in the
>>>>>>>>> Trump administration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Libertarian Party nationally will benefit from this election,
>>>>>>>>> the last of 2017 to include a Libertarian candidate for federal office.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If a funding agreement can be reached prior to the show, Dr.
>>>>>>>>> Buchman would then appeal to Coast to Coast listeners with a promise that
>>>>>>>>> any donations received during the show will be matched dollar-for-dollar.
>>>>>>>>> The show will be replayed and will also be available as a download from the
>>>>>>>>> network website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe has been interviewed by three local papers (the Salt Lake
>>>>>>>>> Tribune, Deseret News and City Weekly) and by KSL Radio's Doug Wright.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That 9 minute radio interview can be found at:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1388&a=11898
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line: Joe is experienced with media interviews, had a prior
>>>>>>>>> career in radio (including working with Bill Redpath at WTTS radio in the
>>>>>>>>> 1970s), is passionate about both Libertarian political pragmatism and
>>>>>>>>> philosophy, *and is currently scheduled for one of the most
>>>>>>>>> visible media appearances by any Libertarian Candidate this month* (and
>>>>>>>>> perhaps for the remainder of this year).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This special election creates something of a special case for
>>>>>>>>> funding; an amount equivalent to that provided to the recent candidate in
>>>>>>>>> Montana would seem equitable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With gratitude for your consideration of this request,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS If you do choose to listen to the KSL interview and/or to
>>>>>>>>> review the website and links to the print interviews there; ALL feedback,
>>>>>>>>> suggestions for improvement are also welcomed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
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>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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