[Lnc-business] Fwd: Appreciation for new LNC page map showing regions and regional reps

Wes Benedict wes.benedict at lp.org
Thu Jul 13 17:08:07 EDT 2017


Starchild,

Quite a few people get each LNC members' email addresses and send 
commentary to the LNC. Posting all of the LNC members' email addresses 
here facilitates that process:

https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/

Below, you requested a more prominent link to the list of all 50 state 
party contacts. In times past, I recall some state chairs preferring we 
don't make all emails so easily reachable due to the quantity of spam 
and general emails about things unrelated to their specific state, but I 
don't have any problem myself posting a link like you've requested.

Since this affects affiliates substantially, I'm going to defer to the 
Affiliate Support Committee on the issue below.

If the chair of the Affiliate Support Committee would like me to post 
the link as described below, I'll have it done.

The way we post things now: https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/ we 
generate traffic directly to the state websites and that probably causes 
people to investigate the state party and state party's can tailor the 
way they want to be contacted (whether by phone, email, a form, multiple 
people, etc.).

What you are asking for will probably generate less traffic to the state 
websites, but more general commentary to the state chair or state 
contact inboxes.

Thanks,


Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

On 7/12/2017 11:40 PM, Starchild wrote:
>
> Hi Wes,
>
> I didn't see any reply from you on this idea I posted to the LNC list 
> last month. Is this something you'd be willing to do or have staff do?
>
> Love & Liberty,
>                                 ((( starchild )))
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From: *Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:sfdreamer at earthlink.net>>
>> *Date: *June 6, 2017 2:44:06 PM GMT-08:00
>> *To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> *Subject: **Re: [Lnc-business] Appreciation for new LNC page map 
>> showing regions and regional reps*
>> *Reply-To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Wes. Given that a list of state party organizations and their 
>> contact info exists at https://lpaction.org/states/ , there appears 
>> to be a very simple solution to the problem of that information being 
>> missing from the State Affiliates 
>> page (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates 
>> <https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates>) on LP.org <http://LP.org/> – 
>> just include a sentence under the map on that page reading, "Click 
>> here for a list of Libertarian state party organizations and their 
>> contact information," and have that text hyperlinked to 
>> https://lpaction.org/states/.
>>
>> Love & Liberty,
>>
>>                                     ((( starchild )))
>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> RealReform at earthlink.net <mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net>
>>                                  (415) 625-FREE
>>                                    @StarchildSF
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>
>>> How to list state party and state chair contact info has varied over 
>>> the years but I don't think the contacts were actually posted on the 
>>> previous LP.org <http://LP.org/> website in the detail discussed below.
>>>
>>> Here were the states: http://old.lp.org/states
>>>
>>> and here is an example of what was there for Connecticut: 
>>> http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/
>>>
>>> We did not create and publish a list of all 50 states chairs or 
>>> state parties. Instead, we linked to each of the 50 state websites. 
>>> Not all 50 states wanted their phones or emails published.
>>>
>>> The way we handle them on the new website is quite similar to the 
>>> old. Not saying its the best way, but just wanted to clear things up 
>>> on the current situation.
>>>
>>> Contacts for all 50 state parties are posted here: 
>>> https://lpaction.org/states/
>>>
>>> But the state chairs list is password protected: 
>>> https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians <http://facebook.com/libertarians> @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>> Starchild wrote on 6/5/2017 8:31 PM:
>>>>
>>>> I can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought to ask the state 
>>>> affiliates themselves and see how they feel about it. If they agree 
>>>> with you that it's better to just let people click on their links, 
>>>> I'm cool with that. But if they'd like to have their state-level 
>>>> contacts listed directly on the LP.org <http://LP.org/> site and 
>>>> commit to keeping that information updated, we ought to respect 
>>>> their wishes. Meanwhile though, wasn't the default supposed to be 
>>>> that all information from the old site gets ported over unless 
>>>> there's a specific LNC decision to drop something?
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>                                      ((( starchild )))
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>> RealReform at earthlink.net <mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net>
>>>>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>>>> @StarchildSF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor 
>>>>> was there really a plan to do so.  Unless there's a major 
>>>>> objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org <http://LP.org/> 
>>>>> site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way 
>>>>> staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different 
>>>>> state affiliates.  The affiliate website sites should always have 
>>>>> the most up-to-date contact information for themselves.  If state 
>>>>> affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been 
>>>>> building sites for state parties.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the past I've called the National office to ask that 
>>>>> information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always 
>>>>> woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep 
>>>>> their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the 
>>>>> state website.   The state contacts on the old LP.org 
>>>>> <http://LP.org/> are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net 
>>>>> <mailto:sfdreamer at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the
>>>>>     interactive map now at the top of the LNC page
>>>>>     (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/
>>>>>     <https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/>) is a
>>>>>     great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly
>>>>>     see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional
>>>>>     rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added
>>>>>     that feature!
>>>>>
>>>>>             I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates
>>>>>     page map that lets people click on each state's image to
>>>>>     access that state party's website
>>>>>     (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates
>>>>>     <https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates>) doesn't list any
>>>>>     state-level contact information however – has that information
>>>>>     not been ported over from the old version of the website yet?
>>>>>     Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to
>>>>>     appear on the state party pages on LP.org <http://LP.org/>
>>>>>     (see e.g.
>>>>>     https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/california/
>>>>>     <https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/california/>).
>>>>>     Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each
>>>>>     state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Love & Liberty,
>>>>>
>>>>>                                         ((( starchild )))
>>>>>     At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>     RealReform at earthlink.net <mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net>
>>>>>                                      (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>      @StarchildSF
>>>>>
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