[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation

Tue Jul 18 23:24:42 EDT 2017

Sam,

I suggest that the motion include a committee selection method (appointed and/or volunteer). Since this will obviously be an important committee of interest to us all, I suggest that the motion specify a minimum of three LNC members and two non-LNC members [substitute your own numbers].

Thoughts?

~David

2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention

Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less

~David Pratt Demarest

LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)

LSLA Vice-Chair

LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary

Cell:      402-981-6469

Home: 402-493-0873

From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Sam Goldstein
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:28 PM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation

Yes, I'm working on a motion to create a Candidate Support Committee to be tasked with first

developing a set of guidelines (subject to LNC approval) for LNC contributions to individual 

candidates other than POTUS.  Once the guidelines are approved the committee will submit

a proposed budget as a new line item for the 2018 LNC Budget then will administer the distribution

of funds.  The Committee might also be tasked with supporting  the new Candidate Support Specialist

position, if we so choose.

Any ideas about motion formulation will be appreciated.

Live Free,

Sam Goldstein

Libertarian National Committee

Member at Large

8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101

Indianapolis IN 46260

317-850-0726 Phone

317-582-1773 Fax

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com <mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com> > wrote:

Our colleague from Indiana has told us he plans to introduce a motion in August. 

Joshua A. Katz

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org <mailto:lpky at mu-net.org> > wrote:

What committee would be charged with coming up with these guidelines?  Another committee?   I'm pretty busy so I don't think I want to commit to direct action on another committee.  But as a former campaign manager, and former candidate, I would like to give some suggested guidelines or watermarks.  

ken

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:42 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net <mailto:dpdemarest at centurylink.net> > wrote:

I hope I am proved wrong but it looks like we have a vicious circle – Continuing ‘No’ votes on candidate support motions until we develop guidelines and no appointees or volunteers so far to develop guidelines.

Am I missing something here?

I am sure there are more qualified LNC and LP members but I will volunteer to be part of an effort to develop candidate support guidelines. We will need a strong leader to meet this challenge. Is this a matter of Nick either appointing a committee leader and supporting committee members or soliciting volunteers? I suggest that both LNC and non-LNC members be part of this initiative. Any other volunteers? Might be a good opportunity for new or aspiring LNC members. 

Thoughts?

~David

2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention

~David Pratt Demarest

LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)

LSLA Vice-Chair

LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary

Cell:      402-981-6469 <tel:(402)%20981-6469> 

Home: 402-493-0873 <tel:(402)%20493-0873> 

From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org> ] On Behalf Of Brett Bittner
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:47 PM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation

TL; DR - I vote nay on email ballot 2017-16.

My thoughts: I find myself in the same situation as I did when the Wicks motion was presented. At that time, promises to come up with a procedure we made (and we even delayed considering a request from Senator Ebke for that procedure to be in place), yet action has yet to materialize. I believe that our first duty is to win elections, and without a process to vet funding requests, we are ill-equipped to determine which campaigns should receive our limited funds. 

As both Arvin and Sam have outlined my concerns, I don't feel the need to reiterate them. 

I appreciate Dr. Buchman's many years of service to the Party and as an activist, and I think very highly of him. I also enjoyed seeing his debate performance online, and I think he did a tremendous job of offering a different perspective in that debate. 

Unfortunately, I believe that we will never create a process for these type of requests if we continue to fulfill them in the ad hoc manner from our limited funds. As such, I must cast a nay vote. I will continue to do so for all candidate funding requests until we've established a process to vet such requests. 

Brett C. Bittner 

Region 3 Representative 

Libertarian National Committee 

brett.bittner at lp.org <mailto:brett.bittner at lp.org>  

317.537.8344 <tel:(317)%20537-8344>  

**This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.

On Jul 17, 2017 07:17, "Patrick McKnight" <patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com <mailto:patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> > wrote:

I vote no.

Patrick McKnight

Region 8 Rep

On Jul 17, 2017 12:07 AM, "James Lark" <jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu <mailto:jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu> > wrote:

Dear colleagues:

    I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.

    As always, thanks for your work for liberty.

    Take care,
    Jim

    James W. Lark, III
    Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
    Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
    Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics
    University of Virginia

    Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
    University of Virginia

    Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
-----

On 7/15/2017 4:15 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:

We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild

Motion:  for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)

-Alicia

_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
Lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
Lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
Lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
Lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
Lnc-business at hq.lp.org <mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org> 
http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/attachments/20170718/310cc688/attachment-0002.html>
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: Untitled attachment 01334.txt
URL: <http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/attachments/20170718/310cc688/attachment-0002.txt>