[Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report

Fri Aug 11 14:18:01 EDT 2017

Just for the record, I think staff is doing a great job and I look forward
to working with them to create this survey!

Thanks,
Patrick McKnight

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David Demarest <dprattdemarest at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with Ken' single-checkout national/affiliate membership idea.
> Incentives are important as I suggested during our ASC membership
> discussion last night initiated by Patrick. Single checkout is perhaps the
> most powerful incentive to grow both national and state membership except
> in affiliates that do not have membership programs. Nebraska does not but I
> am pushing for it.
>
> I also agree with Patrick's contention that we need to empower and
> challenge individual LNC and LP members to take the bull by the horns and
> push our membership and voter registration programs, including the ASC
> #ReRegister month of September project focused on students starting a new
> school year.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Aug 11, 2017 12:27 PM, "Ken Moellman" <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm still hoping for a solution to the "Single Check Out" idea.  I think
>> that presenting the option for people to join the state and national party
>> at the same time would boost overall membership on both sides.
>>
>> On last check, Kentucky's overlap between state and national members is
>> only 10%-15%.  We'd potentially bring 90 people to national and 105 to the
>> state.
>>
>> ken
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:54 PM, David Demarest <
>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tend to agree Joshua's point that national membership is important but
>>> is far from being the best measure of LP/LNC success. I can think of at
>>> least 10 metrics listed below, many of which admittedly would be difficult
>>> to measure, but nevertheless are more important than electoral, voter
>>> registration and membership success.
>>>
>>> In the mad rush toward party empire building, let's not forget that the
>>> real LP mission is to reduce the size of government in order to achieve the
>>> fundamental Libertarian goal of freedom, nothing more, nothing less.
>>>
>>> 1. Empowered LP/LNC member non-institutional projects
>>> 2. Social services moved back into private sector
>>> 3. Regulatory reform successes
>>> 4. Entitlement expenditure reductions
>>> 5. Tax/GDP ratio reductions
>>> 6. Cash-basis healthcare clinic increases
>>> 7. Entitlement expenditure reductions
>>> 8. Non-violent offense incarceration reductions
>>> 9. Free-market education institution increases
>>> 10. Non-defensive foreign and domestic military base and expenditure
>>> reductions
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017 10:55 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> I am amused that I JUST got this from the NAP(National Association of
>>>> Parliamentarians).
>>>>
>>>> [image: image2.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>
>>>> Either Patrick or George Phillies brought this up on the ASC call last
>>>> night.  I said many of the same things you did Caryn Ann. I brought up two
>>>> people's name from this board as being particularly focused on this. Guess
>>>> which two? It was suggested I not be so defensive.  Like you, maybe I see
>>>> and know more of what's going on.  Just yesterday while I was trying to
>>>> prep for two conference calls, to my ADHD chagrin, Robert, gave me the
>>>> first TEST access to Raiser's Edge. You and I both have our own
>>>> personalized donation links.
>>>> David pointed out that more Libertarians outside of the board need to
>>>> look in the mirror and take responsibility. I agree, but I think this board
>>>> needs to set the example.   I think I declared a $5000 give or get to the
>>>> LNC which I have blown through.
>>>>
>>>> On a note, when I brought up the great work that Lauren is doing l, the
>>>> ASC agreed on that.
>>>>
>>>> It was brought up that there has been growth in membership following
>>>> some elections. I didn't ask the question of how much was being spent to
>>>> gain each of those members.  I know at some point in our history we were
>>>> spending $400/ member.
>>>>
>>>> I am not saying and don't think this is where Patrick is coming from,
>>>> but I KNOW a lot of this rhetoric is coming from people positioning
>>>> themselves for LNC runs. There is this inevitable thing that happens where
>>>> everyone screams about what an awful job the LNC is doing.  Guess what that
>>>> probably does?  Cuts into membership.
>>>> Instead of this tactic of saying how awful of a job we are doing, I
>>>> wish everyone instead would simply point out how they could do better. But
>>>> J can only control me.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing though. IF a state affiliate has grown but National has
>>>> slipped, who is that on? Do we want National competing with Affiliates for
>>>> the almighty $25?
>>>>
>>>> In any event I have about 3 reports I have to work on.  We can discuss
>>>> this at the meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think fundraising a much more important metric, and you raise
>>>> excellent points Joshua.  Would everyone be amenable to a roundtable on
>>>> this topic?
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Joshua Katz <
>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to add a suggestion here in a different direction.  Do we
>>>>> care?  This term, we have not adopted goals, but we did last term - and
>>>>> increasing or maintaining memberships wasn't on the list.  I'm not being
>>>>> sarcastic here, I'm being serious - maybe memberships is not a metric we
>>>>> find all that illuminating.  Sure, we need funds, and paid memberships are
>>>>> one way of obtaining funds, but only one way.  They're a way that
>>>>> non-profits, seemingly across the board, have found to be declining in
>>>>> importance and value.  Maybe that's part (I think most things that happen
>>>>> are over-determined and we should look for patterns, not 1-1 relationships)
>>>>> of what this declining number is telling us.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree we should not simply expect a drop in support following the
>>>>> Presidential year.  A drop in paid memberships?  Maybe.  People have many
>>>>> reasons to become members, and if those are temporary reasons (attending
>>>>> convention, considering running for LNC) they might not renew when those
>>>>> reasons no longer apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's become a trope that "millennials don't join things."  If that's
>>>>> true, then we should start now to plan what our organization can look like
>>>>> in 10 years with a different model.  Personally, I think that regardless of
>>>>> what millennials do, we should be making those plans, because a membership
>>>>> model is a temporary solution, not one that will always be best once we've
>>>>> attained a certain size and level of success.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know that membership is a useful thing to watch while driving,
>>>>> so to speak.  I'm much more interested in races won, registered voters in
>>>>> places where that can happen, contested nominations, and similar markers.
>>>>> Those too are long-range indicators, though, and I suspect that the sorts
>>>>> of solutions we are likely to come up with regarding membership, will drive
>>>>> those as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Patrick McKnight <
>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being defensive and mischaracterizing my statements is also not
>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I only need a few minutes to present my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2017 9:02 AM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And here is another reason- to say no plans is simply not accurate.
>>>>>>> Perhaps I just see more of what is happening since I interact with staff
>>>>>>> more than usual and am on the APRC (which means I see every single piece of
>>>>>>> output).  The staff effort is amazing.  Lauren, Jess, and Andy are bringing
>>>>>>> us to a new level of professionalism and thus attractiveness.  There has
>>>>>>> been several years of branding and infrastructure building.  The press
>>>>>>> secretary position will add another dimension. Nurturing relationships with
>>>>>>> larger donors (we have to have funds to do anything) is from what I can see
>>>>>>> better than ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You get much more support by realistically assessing what we are
>>>>>>> doing well, and what can be a lot better otherwise it is basically just
>>>>>>> scolding people and ignoring what we have done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Larry would tell us that's not how to motivate to greatness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of the things done have been stunning.  Others not so much so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But a circular firing squad never does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's come to the table with more ideas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How long should we put on the Agenda Patrick?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:50 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not defensive- it's tired of talk and this same speech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doing is better than talking.  I support your email idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was wondering what everyone did since last meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yelling at the rest of the LNC isn't helpful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:46 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>>>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's fantastic! Congratulations! Do you have some best practices
>>>>>>>>> you can share? NJ registered voters are also exploding, but we haven't been
>>>>>>>>> able to convert that into national memberships which is what's at issue.
>>>>>>>>> Have you also experienced that in Nevada?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann, thank you as always for your hard work. But I'm not
>>>>>>>>> sure why you are getting so defensive, with all due respect this isn't
>>>>>>>>> about "you". This is about the fact we are a national organizations without
>>>>>>>>> a national strategy to stop losing members. Is our national strategy for
>>>>>>>>> LNC members to call people in their free time? That's a nice gesture but I
>>>>>>>>> don't see that as a solution. I suspect there is something wrong with our
>>>>>>>>> brand and the way we are messaging our principles. But at this point I
>>>>>>>>> don't think anyone really knows because we haven't asked our members for
>>>>>>>>> their feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have made a suggestion that we do a survey of our members to
>>>>>>>>> gather this information. Then we can use this data to construct a strategy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 8
>>>>>>>>> Chair, NJLP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many LNC members took me up on my challenge to call lapsed
>>>>>>>>>> members?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's easy to say what others or "we" should do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The last time you said this Patrick I took it to heart and *I*
>>>>>>>>>> did something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I call lapsed members nearly every day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's hard to get people on the phone, but when I do (do we want
>>>>>>>>>> the truth?) this is what I hear in order of frequency:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Economy is bad and they lost their job
>>>>>>>>>> 2. They've been a member and they felt we're no longer
>>>>>>>>>> representing what we claim to (i.e. the last election was a missed
>>>>>>>>>> opportunity, the candidates did not represent a different enough liberty
>>>>>>>>>> message)
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Waxing and waning interest in politics concurrent with the
>>>>>>>>>> election seasons
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is what I hear.  The stories of number 1 are heartbreaking.
>>>>>>>>>> I've gotten my rear chewed out with stories of 2 and managed to retain some
>>>>>>>>>> of them by being nice and letting them yell.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My effort alone is obviously a drop in a sea. But I decided to be
>>>>>>>>>> part of the solution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:21 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>>>>>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why our declining membership isn't our number
>>>>>>>>>>> one priority as an organization. These reports come out showing we have a
>>>>>>>>>>> real problem and no one seems to notice. Too often the LNC is too busy
>>>>>>>>>>> having pointless philosophical debates amongst ourselves while people are
>>>>>>>>>>> voting with their feet and leaving the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like us to do an email survey of our membership to
>>>>>>>>>>> determine what people like and don't like about the party. I don't accept
>>>>>>>>>>> this culture of failure that since our numbers went up last year they have
>>>>>>>>>>> to go down this year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't pretend to have all the answers to this problem. But I
>>>>>>>>>>> think a good place to start is simply asking our membership. It would be
>>>>>>>>>>> free and we might learn something.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interest in liberty is exploding, if our numbers don't reflect
>>>>>>>>>>> that we are doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 8 Rep
>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Robert Kraus <
>>>>>>>>>>> robert.kraus at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached thank you for pointing that out!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Aaron Starr
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For some reason the report compares July 2017 with June 2016,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so the prior year data point did not get updated from last month’s report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you revise this report to compare July 2017 with July 2016?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Starr
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (805) 583-3308 Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (805) 404-8693 Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> starrcpa at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Robert Kraus
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jul Membership Report is attached. Open to find out who is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> longer tied for 10th!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1444 Duke Street
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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