[Lnc-business] 2020 Convention comment Re: Jul Membership Report

Fri Aug 11 15:54:23 EDT 2017

No, I object to such a survey because the COC has already done this work on
behalf
of the membership.  The members have no idea of what goes into site
selection and
planning of a national convention.

Sam

Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
Member at Large
8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
Indianapolis IN 46260
317-850-0726 Phone
317-582-1773 Fax

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Hey Wes,
>
> No.
>
> Daniel Hayes
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Here's the survey I would recommend the Convention Committee request the
> LNC request staff to send:
>
> The Libertarian Party is already busy working to select the location for
> our 2020 National Presidential Nominating Convention. To help us make an
> informed choice, we'd like some feedback from members like you.
>
> 1. Please rate the following cities regarding how desirable a location
> they would be for a national convention, with 5 being desirable, and 1
> being undesirable. These are not rankings, in other words, if you love all
> of these options, you could rate them all 5's.
>
> [   ] Chicago
> [   ] Austin
> [   ] Ft. Lauderdale
> [   ] Phoenix
> [   ] Reno
> [   ] Atlanta
> [   ] Birmingham
> [   ] Manchester
>
> (Note, this is not the actual list of cities being considered, though some
> are and some aren't--it's just for example)
>
> 2. Hotel prices vary greatly depending on quality and location. "You get
> what you pay for. " Assuming the party negotiates a good price at all
> locations being considered, yet some locations are higher because they are
> in a more expensive city or are a nicer hotel, how desirable would the
> following prices be to you. Put a "5" for the price ranges you would be
> comfortable paying. Put a "1" for the price ranges you feel are too high,
> or too low.
>
> [   ] $80-$99 per night (does not include taxes)
> [   ] $100-$119 per night (does not include taxes)
> [   ] $120-$139 per night (does not include taxes)
> [   ] $140-$159 per night (does not include taxes)
> [   ] $160-$179 per night (does not include taxes)
>
> 3. Please rate the following 5 potential dates for a convention. Put a "5"
> if the date is especially desirable to you, and "1" if the date is
> particularly undesirable to you.
>
> [   ] Thursday, April 9 - Sunday, April 12
> [   ] Thursday, May 7 - Sunday, May 10
> [   ] Friday, May 22 - Monday, May 5 (Memorial Weekend)
> [   ] Thursday, June 11 - Sunday, June 14
>
> 4. Critical events and decisions are made at our national conventions.
> However, we try to balance the time given to various activities with the
> burden of the time and cost to our members and delegates. Please indicate
> your desirability for the following convention durations, putting a "5" for
> the the time spans you find desirable, and lower numbers for the time spans
> you find too long or too short.
>
> [   ] 1 night and 2 days
> [   ] 2 nights and 3 days
> [   ] 3 nights and 4 days
> [   ] 4 nights and 5 days
> [   ] 5 nights and 6 days
> [   ] 6 nights and 7 days
>
> Thanks for your feedback. There are many factors that determine where and
> when we have our national conventions. Not all locations are available at
> all dates, and not all venues are the right size or configuration for our
> national conventions. However, the information above will help our
> hardworking group of Convention Committee members pick the best location
> available.
>
> Thanks for your interest in the 2020 Convention.
>
> Now that we've got the 2020 survey out of the way, take a sneak peak at
> our 2018 convention website <https://libertarianconvention.org/>and
> register today.
>
> ===================
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314(202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <(202)%20333-0008>, wes.benedict at lp.orgfacebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
> On 8/11/2017 1:02 PM, Erin Adams wrote:
>
> There are many metrics to consider when choosing a venue. I am not sure
> that most members have a clear picture of all of those. I know that I did
> not before participating on this committee. I am not speaking for nor
> against this proposal at this time, merely attempting to point out that
> there are many things to consider.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, August 11, 2017 11:57 AM
> *To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject: *Re: [Lnc-business] 2020 Convention comment Re: Jul Membership
> Report
>
>
>
> Should I tender my resignation from the convention committee and we do
> this from a strictly democratic basis?
>
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
>
> LNC At Large Member
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Wes,
>
>
>
> That's a great idea. We are frequently insulated from the opinions of
> those we serve and represent, except when motivated by one side of a
> discussion. This may give us some insight into how our members wish we
> conduct business.
>
>
>
> Brett C. Bittner
>
>
>
> Region 3 Representative
>
> Libertarian National Committee
>
>
>
> brett.bittner at lp.org
>
> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2017 11:53 AM, "Wes Benedict" <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Speaking of surveys, I'd also like to see a survey to help the LNC and
> Convention Committee choose the 2020 convention location.
>
> The Convention Committee has done a great job gathering lots of locations
> to consider. They have collected a wide range of options and have narrowed
> it down.
>
> I'd like to see if our members would prefer a more expensive location with
> hotel prices in the $149 per night range and dinners that cost the LP $100
> per meal (and lunches $59), or if they'd prefer a location where hotel
> prices were around $119 per night, and dinners cost the LP closer to $59
> per meal (and lunches $39). The package prices we set, and profit or loss
> the LP makes on conventions, is highly dependent upon the prices hotels
> charge for meals.
>
>
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008>, wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
> On 8/11/2017 11:16 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>
> Patrick, I share your concern regarding our dues-paying membership decline
> and think a survey would be worthwhile.
>
> I have done some surveys in the past by snail mail, but it's been a while.
> I think it's time to do another set.
>
> See attached survey mailings.
>
> See some survey results on page 7 of LP News:
> http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011-4_LP_News.pdf
>
> I found the two responses regarding the Tea Party questions to be
> especially illustrative.
>
> I will plan to do another survey this Fall.
>
> I'll also be asking for a budget increase at this LNC meeting to pay for
> prospecting for new donors/members to lists that have routinely been our
> best performers.
>
>
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008>, wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
> On 8/11/2017 8:20 AM, Patrick McKnight wrote:
>
> All,
>
>
>
> I don't understand why our declining membership isn't our number one
> priority as an organization. These reports come out showing we have a real
> problem and no one seems to notice. Too often the LNC is too busy having
> pointless philosophical debates amongst ourselves while people are voting
> with their feet and leaving the party.
>
>
>
> I would like us to do an email survey of our membership to determine what
> people like and don't like about the party. I don't accept this culture of
> failure that since our numbers went up last year they have to go down this
> year.
>
>
>
> I don't pretend to have all the answers to this problem. But I think a
> good place to start is simply asking our membership. It would be free and
> we might learn something.
>
>
>
> Interest in liberty is exploding, if our numbers don't reflect that we are
> doing something wrong.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick McKnight
>
> LNC Region 8 Rep
>
> Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Attached thank you for pointing that out!
>
>
>
> Live Free!
>
>
>
> *Robert*
>
> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
> Operations at LP.org
> Libertarian National Committee
> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <%28202%29%20333-0008>
>
>
>
> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>
> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>
> size=3 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1>
>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Aaron Starr
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:32 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State Chairs';
> staff at lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>
>
>
> Robert,
>
>
>
> For some reason the report compares July 2017 with June 2016, so the prior
> year data point did not get updated from last month’s report.
>
>
>
> Can you revise this report to compare July 2017 with July 2016?
>
>
>
>
>
> Aaron Starr
>
> (805) 583-3308 <%28805%29%20583-3308> Home
>
> (805) 404-8693 <%28805%29%20404-8693> Mobile
>
> starrcpa at gmail.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Robert Kraus
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:32 AM
> *To:* lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State Chairs'; staff at lp.org
> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>
>
>
> Jul Membership Report is attached. Open to find out who is no longer tied
> for 10th!
>
>
>
> Live Free!
>
>
>
> *Robert*
>
> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
> Operations at LP.org
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>
> 1444 Duke Street
>
> Alexandria, VA 22314
> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <%28202%29%20333-0008>
>
>
>
> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>
> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Lnc-business mailing list
>
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing listLnc-business at hq.lp.orghttp://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/attachments/20170811/ff4d2e8e/attachment-0002.html>