[Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Spoke with a member today (left message and got a return email).  The
reason was number 2.  I am trying to set up a phone call to see if I can
assist.

-Caryn Ann

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> wrote:

> And this (and I am thrilled that members are reading this and interacting
> - that is what I want to see)- Caryn Ann
>
> Hi Caryn Ann,
>
>
> Last year, we set up a system in Arizona where a volunteer would register
> with their phone number, and we loaded up a list of (in this case)
> registered voter information.
>
>
> When the volunteer signed into the system, they would click a few choices,
> then the system would call their number (VoIP), once they picked up, it
> would dial the target number (with the AzLP number showing in CallerID) and
> present a script to guide the volunteer.
>
>
> It had buttons for the volunteer to report results (busy-no answer, left
> VM, wrong number, spoke to person, etc.) and a box for additional comments
> or information.
>
>
> This was a clever way for our volunteers to be part of our phone bank
> without ever going anywhere. The system was designed to track volunteers,
> calls, results, stats, etc.
>
>
> This is not a difficult system to set up -- our Nick Coons did it for us,
> and he could probably do it for National. After it is set up, the hard cost
> is literally fractions of a penny per minute -- and he probably won't
> charge a lot to design a custom interface for National.
>
>
> You could have different 'campaigns' for different purposes: calling
> former members to get them to come back, calling voters, potential
> candidates, etc. etc.
>
>
> With the footprint that National has, this might be way more effective
> than the small effort Arizona did for our getting out the vote calling
> effort.
>
>
> *Michael Kielsky*
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I received this and think it is helpful:
>>
>> 1) If you don't ask you don't get. The biggest problem with
>> lasing/declining membership is that you have to constantly ask new people
>> to join, and lapsed members to renew - multiple times - or they won't.
>>
>> 2) Capture more info through things like web issue petitions; these may
>> be good lists to hit up for new members/contributors.
>>
>> 3) I'm fully aware of why staff doesn't often like this idea, but give
>> people more options of specific projects to target their donations to.
>> Joshua mentioned that younger people are not as apt to follow the
>> membership model which has traditionally worked for organizations in the
>> past. People today increasingly want to be able to customize everything to
>> their own individual tastes rather than follow the herd and get the same
>> helping of slop as everyone else in line. From craft beer to gastropubs to
>> ... you name it ... people want more individual choice and control over
>> their money than in the past. Give it to them!
>>
>> 4) The monthly donor model should be pushed much more often than it has
>> been. It's opt-out for a longer period of time - typically 3-5 years on the
>> average bank or credit card - and the same $120 is psychologically easier
>> in 12 monthly chunks of $10 than in one fell swoop. I know that it does get
>> mentioned, but it hasn't been emphasized to the degree that - for example-
>> I have seen some state parties push their monthly donations at various
>> times in the past. CA and NV in past years come to mind.
>>
>> 5) It would take a lot of work to capture and make good use of the info,
>> but we need to start cataloging people's skill sets and various
>> non-monetary ways they can help the party. If we can find ways to get
>> people actively involved in some kind of volunteer capacity they will be
>> not only saving the party money but it will make them more likely to
>> contribute financially as well.
>>
>> 6) I agree with Nick's goal of having lots of candidates up and down the
>> ballot. But what practical steps have been taken to get us to that 2,000
>> candidate goal? The last time national set a candidate goal that high was
>> iirc around year 2000 or 2002 and Ron Crickenberger was very active in
>> trying to get people signed up as candidates all over the country. I think
>> we ended up with around 1,400 or so if memory serves. If there has been an
>> effort of that scale this year above and beyond stating the much higher
>> than usual goal I honestly have not seen it.
>>
>> 7) The survey idea could be useful. There should be some effort put into
>> getting a good representative sample.
>>
>> That's it off the top of my head, but I've posted similar lists of
>> suggestions in the past, particularly when I was an LNC alternate in
>> 2012-2014.
>>
>> Paul Frankel
>> 205-534-1622 <(205)%20534-1622>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> I am amused that I JUST got this from the NAP(National Association of
>>> Parliamentarians).
>>>
>>> [image: image2.JPG]
>>>
>>> Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>
>>> Either Patrick or George Phillies brought this up on the ASC call last
>>> night.  I said many of the same things you did Caryn Ann. I brought up two
>>> people's name from this board as being particularly focused on this. Guess
>>> which two? It was suggested I not be so defensive.  Like you, maybe I see
>>> and know more of what's going on.  Just yesterday while I was trying to
>>> prep for two conference calls, to my ADHD chagrin, Robert, gave me the
>>> first TEST access to Raiser's Edge. You and I both have our own
>>> personalized donation links.
>>> David pointed out that more Libertarians outside of the board need to
>>> look in the mirror and take responsibility. I agree, but I think this board
>>> needs to set the example.   I think I declared a $5000 give or get to the
>>> LNC which I have blown through.
>>>
>>> On a note, when I brought up the great work that Lauren is doing l, the
>>> ASC agreed on that.
>>>
>>> It was brought up that there has been growth in membership following
>>> some elections. I didn't ask the question of how much was being spent to
>>> gain each of those members.  I know at some point in our history we were
>>> spending $400/ member.
>>>
>>> I am not saying and don't think this is where Patrick is coming from,
>>> but I KNOW a lot of this rhetoric is coming from people positioning
>>> themselves for LNC runs. There is this inevitable thing that happens where
>>> everyone screams about what an awful job the LNC is doing.  Guess what that
>>> probably does?  Cuts into membership.
>>> Instead of this tactic of saying how awful of a job we are doing, I wish
>>> everyone instead would simply point out how they could do better. But J can
>>> only control me.
>>>
>>> Another thing though. IF a state affiliate has grown but National has
>>> slipped, who is that on? Do we want National competing with Affiliates for
>>> the almighty $25?
>>>
>>> In any event I have about 3 reports I have to work on.  We can discuss
>>> this at the meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think fundraising a much more important metric, and you raise
>>> excellent points Joshua.  Would everyone be amenable to a roundtable on
>>> this topic?
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to add a suggestion here in a different direction.  Do we
>>>> care?  This term, we have not adopted goals, but we did last term - and
>>>> increasing or maintaining memberships wasn't on the list.  I'm not being
>>>> sarcastic here, I'm being serious - maybe memberships is not a metric we
>>>> find all that illuminating.  Sure, we need funds, and paid memberships are
>>>> one way of obtaining funds, but only one way.  They're a way that
>>>> non-profits, seemingly across the board, have found to be declining in
>>>> importance and value.  Maybe that's part (I think most things that happen
>>>> are over-determined and we should look for patterns, not 1-1 relationships)
>>>> of what this declining number is telling us.
>>>>
>>>> I agree we should not simply expect a drop in support following the
>>>> Presidential year.  A drop in paid memberships?  Maybe.  People have many
>>>> reasons to become members, and if those are temporary reasons (attending
>>>> convention, considering running for LNC) they might not renew when those
>>>> reasons no longer apply.
>>>>
>>>> It's become a trope that "millennials don't join things."  If that's
>>>> true, then we should start now to plan what our organization can look like
>>>> in 10 years with a different model.  Personally, I think that regardless of
>>>> what millennials do, we should be making those plans, because a membership
>>>> model is a temporary solution, not one that will always be best once we've
>>>> attained a certain size and level of success.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that membership is a useful thing to watch while driving,
>>>> so to speak.  I'm much more interested in races won, registered voters in
>>>> places where that can happen, contested nominations, and similar markers.
>>>> Those too are long-range indicators, though, and I suspect that the sorts
>>>> of solutions we are likely to come up with regarding membership, will drive
>>>> those as well.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Patrick McKnight <
>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>
>>>>> Being defensive and mischaracterizing my statements is also not
>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> I only need a few minutes to present my proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2017 9:02 AM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And here is another reason- to say no plans is simply not accurate.
>>>>>> Perhaps I just see more of what is happening since I interact with staff
>>>>>> more than usual and am on the APRC (which means I see every single piece of
>>>>>> output).  The staff effort is amazing.  Lauren, Jess, and Andy are bringing
>>>>>> us to a new level of professionalism and thus attractiveness.  There has
>>>>>> been several years of branding and infrastructure building.  The press
>>>>>> secretary position will add another dimension. Nurturing relationships with
>>>>>> larger donors (we have to have funds to do anything) is from what I can see
>>>>>> better than ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You get much more support by realistically assessing what we are
>>>>>> doing well, and what can be a lot better otherwise it is basically just
>>>>>> scolding people and ignoring what we have done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Larry would tell us that's not how to motivate to greatness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the things done have been stunning.  Others not so much so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But a circular firing squad never does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's come to the table with more ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How long should we put on the Agenda Patrick?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:50 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not defensive- it's tired of talk and this same speech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doing is better than talking.  I support your email idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering what everyone did since last meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yelling at the rest of the LNC isn't helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:46 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's fantastic! Congratulations! Do you have some best practices
>>>>>>>> you can share? NJ registered voters are also exploding, but we haven't been
>>>>>>>> able to convert that into national memberships which is what's at issue.
>>>>>>>> Have you also experienced that in Nevada?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann, thank you as always for your hard work. But I'm not sure
>>>>>>>> why you are getting so defensive, with all due respect this isn't about
>>>>>>>> "you". This is about the fact we are a national organizations without a
>>>>>>>> national strategy to stop losing members. Is our national strategy for LNC
>>>>>>>> members to call people in their free time? That's a nice gesture but I
>>>>>>>> don't see that as a solution. I suspect there is something wrong with our
>>>>>>>> brand and the way we are messaging our principles. But at this point I
>>>>>>>> don't think anyone really knows because we haven't asked our members for
>>>>>>>> their feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have made a suggestion that we do a survey of our members to
>>>>>>>> gather this information. Then we can use this data to construct a strategy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>>> LNC Region 8
>>>>>>>> Chair, NJLP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many LNC members took me up on my challenge to call lapsed
>>>>>>>>> members?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's easy to say what others or "we" should do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The last time you said this Patrick I took it to heart and *I* did
>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I call lapsed members nearly every day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's hard to get people on the phone, but when I do (do we want
>>>>>>>>> the truth?) this is what I hear in order of frequency:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Economy is bad and they lost their job
>>>>>>>>> 2. They've been a member and they felt we're no longer
>>>>>>>>> representing what we claim to (i.e. the last election was a missed
>>>>>>>>> opportunity, the candidates did not represent a different enough liberty
>>>>>>>>> message)
>>>>>>>>> 3. Waxing and waning interest in politics concurrent with the
>>>>>>>>> election seasons
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is what I hear.  The stories of number 1 are heartbreaking.
>>>>>>>>> I've gotten my rear chewed out with stories of 2 and managed to retain some
>>>>>>>>> of them by being nice and letting them yell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My effort alone is obviously a drop in a sea. But I decided to be
>>>>>>>>> part of the solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:21 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>>>>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why our declining membership isn't our number
>>>>>>>>>> one priority as an organization. These reports come out showing we have a
>>>>>>>>>> real problem and no one seems to notice. Too often the LNC is too busy
>>>>>>>>>> having pointless philosophical debates amongst ourselves while people are
>>>>>>>>>> voting with their feet and leaving the party.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like us to do an email survey of our membership to
>>>>>>>>>> determine what people like and don't like about the party. I don't accept
>>>>>>>>>> this culture of failure that since our numbers went up last year they have
>>>>>>>>>> to go down this year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't pretend to have all the answers to this problem. But I
>>>>>>>>>> think a good place to start is simply asking our membership. It would be
>>>>>>>>>> free and we might learn something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Interest in liberty is exploding, if our numbers don't reflect
>>>>>>>>>> that we are doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 8 Rep
>>>>>>>>>> Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Robert Kraus <
>>>>>>>>>> robert.kraus at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attached thank you for pointing that out!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Live Free!​​​​
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Aaron Starr
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State
>>>>>>>>>>> Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For some reason the report compares July 2017 with June 2016, so
>>>>>>>>>>> the prior year data point did not get updated from last month’s report.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you revise this report to compare July 2017 with July 2016?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Starr
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (805) 583-3308 Home
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (805) 404-8693 Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> starrcpa at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Robert Kraus
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jul Membership Report is attached. Open to find out who is no
>>>>>>>>>>> longer tied for 10th!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Live Free!​​​​
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1444 Duke Street
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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