[Lnc-business] MOTION: Re: adding emails and phones to LNC committee page
Sam Goldstein
goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com
Mon Aug 28 19:33:11 EDT 2017
Starchild,
So now you are advocated the use of force and coercion to get LNC members
to
list their private information? Have you ever read the Statement of
Principles? Do
you subscribe to the NAP?
Transparency is your fetish, not mine. My email address is on the LNC web
site so
members can contact me. You will not force me to list any other contact
information.
Sam Goldstein
Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
Member at Large
8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
Indianapolis IN 46260
317-850-0726 Phone
317-582-1773 Fax
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I disagree that people will necessarily draw the correct conclusions from
> contact information simply being absent, and may well instead blame the
> Libertarian Party as an organization for its lack of transparency and
> accountability.
>
> Indeed under past practice, they would in my opinion have been *right* to
> do so – contact information has been mostly missing from that page for some
> time now, but I don't believe that was mainly the fault of committee
> members. We as an organization failed to solicit and post the information
> from them or give them a means to add it.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> RealReform at earthlink.net
> (415) 625-FREE
> @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> I think it is somewhat apparent that whoever provided information has it
> listed, ergo, if its not there, it wasn't provided.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Or we could be less authoritarian and trust that our members can figure
>> things out for themselves and not write anything else.
>>
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Starchild, I support transparency but something with that wording just
>> doesn't sit right with me. It seems to be a bit shaming of some committee
>> members who don't give it. Some of our volunteers may have specific
>> situations (perhaps they have a stalker ?) that may have another reason to
>> not have it listed. Or some female volunteers just don't want their phone
>> number listed...
>>
>> I think it is apparent that it is voluntary or that we could find another
>> way to word this that doesn't seem to be so "calling out" people.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Wes, glad to see this info being added!
>>>
>>> To make clear why some committee members have or will have their
>>> information listed while others may not, I'll make the following motion to
>>> take effect after folks have had another month during which to get their
>>> information added:
>>>
>>> MOTION:
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> I move that staff be directed to, during the week of October 1, add the
>>> following text at the top of the LP Committees page (currently
>>> https://www.lp.org/lp-committees/) under the words "Bold text indicates
>>> the chair":
>>>
>>> *Committee members have been notified of how to have their email
>>> addresses and phone numbers added to their committee listings on this page.
>>> If a member does not have a phone number or email address listed at which
>>> he or she can be contacted by party members, it is because the individual
>>> chose not to provide that information.*
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> If you support transparency, please co-sponsor.
>>>
>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>
>>> ((( starchild )))
>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> RealReform at earthlink.net
>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>> @StarchildSF
>>>
>>> P.S. – The LNC has now appointed members of the Credentials Committee as
>>> well as a new Candidate and Campaign Support Committee, but their names do
>>> not appear on the LP Committees page, so those names *should* be added.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>
>>> We have a page on LP.org that lists all the committees and their
>>> members, such as By-Laws, Platform, Affiliate Support, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.lp.org/lp-committees/
>>>
>>> The page currently has the committee members' names, but no contact
>>> information (with exception of a few cases).
>>>
>>> We're now in the process of adding the email and phone for any committee
>>> members who wish to have the emails and phones displayed. It's entirely
>>> optional, and you are welcome to list one (such as the email), and not the
>>> other (such as the phone).
>>>
>>> To have you email and/or phone added to the page, please send a note
>>> with the relevant information to Bob Johnston <bob.johnston at lp.org>
>>> <bob.johnston at lp.org>.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Committee Name: You name: *
>>> *Email:*
>>> *Phone:*
>>>
>>> (Bob, please do not add any new names--just add phones and emails where
>>> appropriate).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314(202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <(202)%20333-0008>, wes.benedict at lp.orgfacebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
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>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
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