[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution

Sun Oct 22 09:00:30 EDT 2017

I vote no partially for the same reasons as Sam.

And add, that with rare exception, I oppose us putting out resolutions that
do not reference clear libertarian ideological justifications in order to
further education on our views.

I think a statement or press release from the chair could address this in
an libertarian-focused manner.

We need to use our bully pulpit wisely.

-Caryn Ann

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 6:10 AM Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I vote No on this motion.
>
> I also strongly encourage other LNC members to vote no.  The resolution
> clearly allow the
> Federal government to use military force in another country in violation
> of both our party Platform
> and the NAP.
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 Phone
> 317-582-1773 Fax
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:18 AM, Patrick McKnight <
> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I vote yes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Patrick McKnight
>> Region 8 Rep
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2017 2:42 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31, 2017 at
>>> 11:59:59pm Pacific time.  Trick or Treat!!*
>>> *Co-Sponsor:*  Sarwark
>>>
>>> *Motion:*  That the LNC adopt the following resolution:
>>>
>>> --------------------Resolution Text--------------------
>>>
>>> A Call to End the U.S. War in Yemen and Support House Concurrent
>>> Resolution 81
>>>
>>> Directing the President pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers
>>> Resolution to remove United States Armed Forces from unauthorized
>>> hostilities in the Republic of Yemen.
>>>
>>> Resolved by the Libertarian National Committee (LNC)
>>>
>>> SECTION 1. REMOVAL OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES FROM HOSTILITIES IN THE
>>> REPUBLIC OF YEMEN THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS.
>>>
>>> (a) Findings ––The Libertarian National Committee agrees with Congress
>>> and finds the following:
>>>
>>> (1) Whereas, Congress has the sole power to declare war under article I,
>>> section 8, of the Constitution.
>>>
>>> (2) Whereas, a state of war has not been declared to exist with respect
>>> to the conflict between forces led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab
>>> Emirates against the Houthi-Saleh alliance in the Republic of Yemen.
>>>
>>> (3) Whereas, United States Armed Forces have been involved in
>>> hostilities between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance,
>>> including through assisting Saudi and United Arab Emirates warplanes
>>> conducting aerial bombings in Yemen with selecting targets and by providing
>>> midair refueling services to such warplanes, amounting to millions of
>>> pounds of jet fuel delivered during thousands of Saudi and United Arab
>>> Emirates airstrikes.
>>>
>>> (4) Whereas, according to the Department of State’s Country Reports on
>>> Terrorism 2016, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh
>>> alliance is counterproductive to ongoing efforts by the United States to
>>> pursue Al Qaeda and its associated forces under the Authorization for the
>>> Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note).
>>>
>>> (5) Whereas, no authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces
>>> with respect to the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh
>>> alliance in Yemen has been enacted, and no provision of law authorizes the
>>> provision of midair refueling services to warplanes of Saudi Arabia or the
>>> United Arab Emirates that are engaged in such conflict.
>>>
>>> (6) Whereas, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh
>>> alliance in Yemen constitutes, within the meaning of section 4(a)(1) of the
>>> War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1543(a)(1)), either hostilities or a
>>> situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by
>>> the circumstances into which United States Armed Forces have been
>>> introduced.
>>>
>>> Therefore, be it resolved, the LNC supports H.Con.Res. 81 in accordance
>>> with section 3.3 of the Libertarian Party Platform, but advises complete
>>> removal of U.S. Armed Forces from the Republic of Yemen:
>>>
>>> (b) Removal Of Armed Forces.—Pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers
>>> Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(c)), Congress hereby directs the President to
>>> remove United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of
>>> Yemen, except United States Armed Forces engaged in operations directed at
>>> Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or associated forces, by not later than
>>> the date that is 30 days after the date of the adoption of this concurrent
>>> resolution (unless the President requests and the Congress authorizes a
>>> later date), and unless and until a declaration of war or specific
>>> authorization for such use of United States Armed Forces has been enacted.
>>>
>>> -----------------End of Resolution Text-----------------
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

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