[Lnc-business] Feedback on LP religion poll / tracking?

Sat Dec 16 00:13:26 EST 2017

No responses from members of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
We need to outreach to the Pastafarians. 

Tim Hagan 

On 2017-12-15 16:16, Wes Benedict wrote:

> I think "Deist" was the most mentioned options that was not included in the poll. 
> 
> Here's some of the feedback we receive by email (I didn't include all the Deist comments): 
> 
> * Could you please add "Two House Messianic Judaism" on the next poll? 
> * I was raised as a Christian Scientist, but am now agnostic.
> * Interesting poll. I would have chosen nontheistic if it was available.
> * Well, I took the survey, but I noticed a missing group, Congregational. 
> * I am a Deist, which is not a choice on your poll.
> * You did not include Quakers 'Society of Friend's
> * I would like to see "None" as a choice. "None of the Above" implies a religion is still followed, but is just not listed. 
> * Not to make a big deal out of it, but why only one choice on religion?  I'm a Jewish Atheist
> * Correct. "Congress shall [not]." Technically, the states can.
> * You did not list secular humanist.
> * Our founding fathers were largely Deist, as am I, yet it is not a choice. 
> * My specific religion was not explicitly listed on the poll, which is Christian Science, or Church of Christ, Scientist.  I selected the "other Christian" for the poll. 
> * "Pentecostal" is misspelled as "Pentacostal."
> * None of your business. Am I being detained?
> * Atheism and agnosticism aren't religions. Where did you get that idea--from an old Star Trek episode?
> * I know that the philosophical / religious matrix of Thelema is a very obscure tradition and that a certain personality in the LP may have soured it's taste in a lot of our mouths, but as a long-standing member of OTO--a Thelemic organization with roots in Freemasonry--
> * I consider myself an agnostic Christian so I checked "Other Christian."
> * I'd like to request that you add Scientology to your list.  I think it's the fastest growing religion these days.
> * You need to add "Non-religious" as a choice.
> 
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
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> 
> On 12/15/2017 7:06 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: 
> 
> Elizabeth, I don't know why you didn't receive the email. That fact is frustrating. 
> 
> Please let me know if it reaches you later on. It will contain the content that you can see here: 
> 
> https://www.lp.org/what-religion-are-libertarians/ 
> 
> The religion poll email was sent around 1:17 PM eastern. 
> 
> An email with subject "Limiting government power, freedom . . " was sent a 5:29 PM eastern. 
> 
> Email deliver-ability is a constant challenge. 
> 
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
> 
> On 12/15/2017 6:55 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote: 
> 
> Hmm, I didn't get an LP email today, and am curious as to what the poll looks like.  
> 
> (Starchild, I get a regular news feed from http://transhumanity.net/
> You might check them out : )
> 
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/ 
> 
> On 2017-12-15 18:43, Starchild wrote: 
> 
> Hi Wes, 
> 
> When I attempted to click through from today's Libertarian email to the poll on religion, I got an error page indicating there was a tracker being used: 
> 
> chrome://ublock0/content/document-blocked.html?details=eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vY2xpY2suaWNwdHJhY2suY29tL2ljcC9yZWxheS5waHA/cj04NTUzMDAzNyZtc2dpZD02MDg4MjUmYWN0PThCQkkmYz0xMTE1MTA4JmRlc3RpbmF0aW9uPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubHAub3JnJTJGd2hhdC1yZWxpZ2lvbi1hcmUtbGliZXJ0YXJpYW5zJTJGIiwiaG4iOiJjbGljay5pY3B0cmFjay5jb20iLCJkbiI6ImljcHRyYWNrLmNvbSIsImZjIjoiWzAsNjIsXCJpY3B0cmFjay5jb21cIl0iLCJmcyI6Inx8aWNwdHJhY2suY29tXiJ9 
> 
> What type of tracking are these emails employing? I do not think we should be tracking people's clicks without their consent. 
> 
> On the poll itself (I went directly to LP.org [1] and found it there at https://www.lp.org/what-religion-are-libertarians/), I have a recommendation for an additional response category - TRANSHUMANIST.  
> 
> This may not ultimately be the most precise term for my own religious views, which also encompass non-aggression and decentralism/individualism, but as a "none of the above" respondent, I feel it would fit me better than any of the terms currently listed, and suspect there may be a few others who feel similarly. For anyone curious about the religious aspects of transhumanism, this page has some good material: 
> 
> http://www.metanexus.net/essay/toward-transhumanist-theology 
> 
> Finally, I would also urge that the poll response choices be listed in alphabetical order (with the exception of leaving "Decline to state" and "None of the above" at the bottom), rather than all the Christian options being listed first. 
> 
> Love & Liberty, 
> 
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