[Lnc-business] Age of Consent and Statutory Rape. WTF.

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

9 states makes it really hard and I expect the same time issues.

If Patrick or anyone intends on any motion I submit it is a futile gesture
until regional states have time.

BTW I know I have a minority opinion on this interpretation but I think the
provision that allows 10% of the delegates of prior convention to appeal
any LNC action includes any lack of action and I would encourage it.

I would ideally like to see a recall survey sent to the 2016 delegates.


On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> Yes, and as there's exactly four states in Region 3, it's a little easier,
> but still not easy.  (Also, thanks, btw)
>
> Just got an update from LPMI, and their bylaws prevent an email vote
> (asynchronous voting).  They would need to meet in person or have a
> conference call to pass a resolution. Their next scheduled meeting is is in
> February.  (I have heard privately from some officers in LPMI, and they're
> very unhappy with the Arvin situation and would like to be able to take
> action.)
>
> Still no word from LPKY.
>
> All over social media is arguing and strife over this mess.  Some are
> seizing this situation to grandstand and pot stir, furthering the
> reach. This is the situation. Not a pleasant one.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
>
> On 2018-01-13 14:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> PS my requirements are similar
>
> 3/4 of Region 1  Chairs
>
> or
>
> 3/4 petition by region 1 delegates from 2016
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 12:47 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth kudos for doing what a regional should.
>>
>> I am having a similar discussion with Region 1.
>>
>> They opposed action before.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 12:21 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Patrick,
>>>
>>> As you're aware, I'm fairly new on the Libertarian National Committee,
>>> as I was appointed to be LNC Region 3 Representative, a little over a
>>> month ago.  It's an honor to be given their trust in representing
>>> LP-Indiana, LP-Ohio, LP-Michigan and LP-Kentucky on the LNC.  I take my
>>> "representative" role seriously, and the LP state affiliates within my
>>> Region are my constituency.
>>>
>>>  1) On November 11, 2017, the Libertarian Party of Indiana (LPIN) State
>>> Central Committee (SCC) unanimously passed a resolution which culminated
>>> in, "...the immediate resignation of Mr. Vohra from his position in party
>>> leadership."
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2018, the Indiana state chair wrote to me, "Indiana
>>> does support and request that very action", regarding Bylaws Article 6.7, a
>>> motion to suspend Arvin Vohra.
>>>
>>>  2) On January 12, 2018 the Libertarian Party of Ohio (LPOH) Executive
>>> Committee passed a resolution which culminated in, "The LPO calls for the
>>> IMMEDIATE resignation of Mr. Vohra from his positions in party leadership.
>>> Failing that, the LPO calls on the LNC to remove (through the formal
>>> suspension process) Mr. Vohra before more damage can be done."
>>>
>>> 3) I've informed the state chairs of Region 3 that I'd need a clear
>>> directive to make a motion per bylaws article 6.7 regarding suspending
>>> Arvin Vohra. (With the understanding that the motion might not get to a
>>> vote, or pass, if voted upon.)  Two of the four state affiliates in Region
>>> 3 have told me they want this action taken.  Since attempting to suspend an
>>> officer of the LP is a serious matter, I told the state chairs in Region 3
>>> that I'd need at least 3 of the four states to agree on the action to be
>>> taken.  At this time, I await direction from LPMI and/or LPKY.  (LPMI has
>>> taken the issue into discussion and hopefully will let me know
>>> their decision soon.)
>>>
>>> This is why I've not made public comments regarding the controversy
>>> surrounding Arvin Vohra.  I represent the four states in Region 3, which
>>> means it's not my place to direct them, but it's the reverse, they direct
>>> me.  If the consensus of Region 3 is to make a motion to the LNC, I shall
>>> do so.  If that happens, it will be another opportunity for anyone on the
>>> LNC to second such a motion.
>>> ---
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-01-13 09:46, Patrick McKnight wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your hard work on behalf of the party and your thoughtful
>>> comments on this latest embarrassment to our organization. As you know, I
>>> made a motion to remove Arvin last year. Unfortunately, not one member of
>>> the LNC felt comfortable supporting my motion at the time. I hope that
>>> changes now.
>>>
>>> Patrick McKnight
>>> LNC Region 8 Rep
>>> Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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