[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Fri Feb 23 23:23:41 EST 2018


The email formatting since the switch is sub-optimal.  I have footers with
dozens of links and it is often a jumble to see where there is a reply.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> If I don't reply, it means I didn't see.  If I am anything, it is an
> obsessive replier.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn <
> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Caryn Ann, that helps.
>>
>> I had asked a question in one of the emails, which must have gotten lost
>> too, as you didn't reply.  (Although, that's your prerogative, even if you
>> did see the question.)
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>>
>> On 2018-02-23 23:09, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>>> I see something I missed:
>>>    ==Caryn Ann reported that she attended a meeting in WA. So, she
>>> clearly
>>>    has the wherewithal to attend state affiliate meetings. ==
>>>    Yes I clearly have a computer in which to log-in to an e-meeting when
>>> a
>>>    state Chair requests.
>>>    -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>>    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>    <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>      ---
>>>      Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>      On 2018-02-23 22:27, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>>
>>>      Caryn Ann,
>>>      It was mentioned to you by Wes.  I was in on the conversation
>>>      because
>>>      you and I are the two most active fundraisers and membership
>>>      recruiters on the board.  Was that in NOLA or Kansas City?
>>>
>>>      ------Daniel, yet the board members that replied here today, and
>>>      they were on the LNC during the meetings you mention, didn't know
>>>      about it.
>>>
>>>      Wes wanted to experiment with it.  This stuff all gets disclosed in
>>>      the Treasurer’s report.
>>>
>>>      ------Experimenting, is fine. Covering the cost for an LNC member to
>>>      go to state conventions within their own region is something that
>>>      should have been discussed with this board.
>>>
>>>      Hopefully, other board members take a more active role in fund
>>>      raising
>>>      going forward.   This discussion has been much longer than it needed
>>>      to be and much less civil than required.
>>>
>>>      ------My objections aren't to fundraising, but to covering costs for
>>>      an LNC member to attend state conventions within their own region.
>>>      I also object to this type of arrangement being made with a broad
>>>      communication to this board. The surprise that people have expressed
>>>      here is an indicator that this wasn't something that was
>>>      communicated to the board.
>>>      Also, I don't think anyone has been uncivil.
>>>
>>>      Now that it’s revealed that I was “involved” that should explain it.
>>>      This shall be placed with all my other crimes, including refusing to
>>>      re-Life Harambe and have him speak at the NatCon.
>>>
>>>      ------Your commentary doesn't explain anything that changes my mind
>>>      about the inappropriateness of this situation.
>>>
>>>      I get peoples issue with it, but I was there and understand Wes’s
>>>      perspective and agreed with it.  I’m more concerned with results.
>>>      We
>>>      have an all too regular habit of tying our shoe’s laces together.
>>>      We
>>>      get lost in the minutia.
>>>
>>>      ------Daniel, you understanding and agreeing with Wes, doesn't do
>>>      anything to change the inappropriateness of the situation.
>>>
>>>      Daniel Hayes
>>>      LNC At Large Member
>>>      Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>      On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>      <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>        Actually this board does know me.  I have served nearly a full
>>>      term
>>>        with them.  Your predecessors knew me well.  And this idea for
>>>        fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC.  In fact
>>>      - I
>>>        think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break time
>>>      about
>>>        innovative fundraising.  I could be wrong but I think Wes did
>>>      mention
>>>        it (he would know that better than I) It could only be executed
>>>      once
>>>        conventions started.  My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t forsee
>>>      that
>>>        Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had to prove
>>>        myself to them anew.
>>>        I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>        <[1][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>        Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people were
>>>      ready to
>>>        assume that was true.  I was not because I know you and others did
>>>      not.
>>>        There is nothing more to say on the exchange here.  You think it
>>>      was
>>>        perfectly appropriate and I don’t.  More digital ink will not
>>>      change
>>>        that.
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>        <[2][4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>        If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather than
>>>        openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
>>>        I followed our policy.  I openly discussed this on FB.  It is in
>>>      every
>>>        financial report.
>>>        It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
>>>        There was no lack of transparency that I saw.  I told the members
>>>      at
>>>        each convention that my trip was paid.  Fundraising is under the
>>>        direction of the ED and I followed that.
>>>        Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not some
>>>      unusual
>>>        thing.  My time was donated.  The expense to move my body (the
>>>        equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part of
>>>        fundraising.
>>>        And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault.  It
>>>      doesn’t
>>>        end does it.
>>>        So I’ll end it.  I’ve said what I wish to on that “question” of my
>>>      “odd
>>>        and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that answers
>>>      your
>>>        question on that front.
>>>        -Caryn Ann
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>        <[3][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>        And if it is spleen venting time well good.  I step forward to
>>>      every
>>>        challenge I can.  Staff knows they can call me at any time with an
>>>        emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it.  If
>>>      staff
>>>        called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever] tomorrow
>>>      can
>>>        you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
>>>        My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully earned.
>>>        There is nothing that was done outside of our rules.  If the LNC
>>>        believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they should
>>>      do
>>>        it.
>>>        But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my
>>>      propriety.
>>>        -Caryn Ann
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>        <[4][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>        I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have to be
>>>      voted
>>>        on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of micromanagement we
>>>        wallow in.
>>>        We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m.  We said last
>>>      meeting
>>>        that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to test.
>>>      He
>>>        followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
>>>        I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal) this
>>>        season.  We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect the
>>>        intentions of our peers instead.
>>>        I followed procedure and the Policy Manual.  I don’t have a
>>>      crystal
>>>        ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
>>>        -Caryn Ann
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>        <[5][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>        I’m not going to devolve into those arguments.  It was an
>>>      inappropriate
>>>        insinuation.  Which you just followed with another one.
>>>        I followed protocol as I understood it.  This was in the
>>>      discretion of
>>>        the ED.  The Chair and Treasurer approves.  Staff was openly
>>>        coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that would have
>>>        anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the Party
>>>        approved.
>>>        I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about pennies
>>>      on
>>>        steemit.
>>>        A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that could
>>>      involve
>>>        you that was disturbing.  I asked you directly and it confirmed my
>>>        judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
>>>        You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
>>>      povertaruans
>>>        suffered.  That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see that if
>>>      you
>>>        don’t and I won’t spend further time trying.  A comment of mine
>>>      about
>>>        donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd at
>>>      all )
>>>        was twisted into something “disturbing”  - couching it with “I
>>>      wonder”
>>>        doesn’t change that fact.
>>>        That was a low comment.  If it were made to you you would be
>>>      requesting
>>>        me to call it out.  And I frankly would.
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>        <[6][8]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>          I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question.  As for the
>>>      courtesy
>>>          of a
>>>          direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been
>>>      avoided,
>>>          with
>>>          the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
>>>          ---
>>>          Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>
>>>          On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>      Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward
>>>
>>>          at
>>>
>>>        least with my volunteering on this.  I will decline.
>>>        I will do things on my own as I have done.  Less effectively
>>>
>>>          and
>>>
>>>      less
>>>        often but more peacefully.
>>>        My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
>>>
>>>          insinuation
>>>
>>>      stated
>>>        by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
>>>
>>>          cutoff
>>>
>>>        point.
>>>        It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and
>>>
>>>          eat
>>>
>>>      their
>>>        own.
>>>        QED.
>>>        I never thought I would regret my recruiting success.  The LP
>>>
>>>          has
>>>
>>>        surprised me once again.
>>>        -Caryn Ann
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>        <[1][7][9]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>          Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister,
>>>
>>>          not I.
>>>
>>>          You wrote:
>>>          " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
>>>
>>>          Which
>>>
>>>      I
>>>          do
>>>          at every event."
>>>          In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
>>>      national
>>>          LP.
>>>          Glad we're in agreement.
>>>          ---
>>>          Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>
>>>          On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>      Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
>>>
>>>          something
>>>
>>>          sinister
>>>
>>>        but not everything.
>>>        My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
>>>
>>>          of
>>>
>>>          that.
>>>
>>>        I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
>>>
>>>          trips are
>>>
>>>          just
>>>
>>>      that
>>>        and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I
>>>
>>>          would
>>>
>>>          spend
>>>
>>>      my
>>>        time.  Which I do at every event.
>>>        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
>>>        <[1][2][8][10]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>             I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
>>>
>>>          although I'd
>>>
>>>          emphasize that
>>>             my issue is more about disclosure of potential
>>>
>>>          issues to
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>          board
>>>             ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
>>>
>>>          see
>>>
>>>          here.  I
>>>
>>>             explained some, I can find more.  The solution to
>>>
>>>          that
>>>
>>>      is,
>>>          in
>>>
>>>      the
>>>             future, disclosure to the board of transactions
>>>
>>>      involving
>>>          LNC
>>>
>>>          members,
>>>             and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I
>>>
>>>          am
>>>
>>>          writing
>>>
>>>      to
>>>             express disagreement with one point:  I almost
>>>
>>>          always
>>>
>>>          disagree
>>>
>>>          with
>>>             clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
>>>
>>>          malfeasance.  I
>>>
>>>          would
>>>             disagree with requesting the return of funds or
>>>
>>>          stopping
>>>
>>>          funds
>>>
>>>      in
>>>             progress.
>>>             Joshua A. Katz
>>>             On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>             <[1][2][3][9][11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>               Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
>>>
>>>          that
>>>
>>>      I
>>>          was
>>>
>>>          shocked
>>>               to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
>>>
>>>      attend
>>>
>>>      state
>>>               conventions within their own region.
>>>               Dear LNC,
>>>                    Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>>
>>>      dues-paying
>>>
>>>          members by
>>>                    attending state conventions and getting
>>>
>>>          people to
>>>
>>>          join
>>>
>>>      or
>>>               renew.
>>>                    At first, she did this at state conventions
>>>
>>>          she
>>>
>>>      was
>>>
>>>          attending
>>>               in her
>>>                    region at her own expense.
>>>               I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
>>>
>>>          often
>>>
>>>          attend
>>>
>>>          state
>>>               conventions within their own region, and if she
>>>
>>>          works
>>>
>>>      to
>>>
>>>      boost
>>>               national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
>>>                    Her results were so strong that I asked her
>>>
>>>          if
>>>
>>>      she
>>>          would
>>>
>>>          be
>>>               willing
>>>                    to go to some other states outside of her
>>>
>>>          region
>>>
>>>      to
>>>          do
>>>
>>>          similar
>>>                    fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>>
>>>          were
>>>
>>>          reimbursed.
>>>               < This is something that should have been told to
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>          LNC,
>>>
>>>      and
>>>          even
>>>               discussed.  Why are we only finding this out,
>>>
>>>          after
>>>
>>>          someone
>>>
>>>               inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
>>>                    We have been struggling to keep membership
>>>
>>>          from
>>>
>>>          falling.
>>>
>>>          We
>>>               send
>>>                    renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>>
>>>          perform
>>>
>>>      reasonably
>>>          well
>>>               but
>>>                    pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>>
>>>          methods we
>>>
>>>          try
>>>
>>>      have
>>>          very
>>>               low
>>>                    ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>>
>>>      strong.
>>>
>>>                    Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>>
>>>      convention
>>>          last
>>>
>>>          weekend
>>>               and
>>>                    recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>          national
>>>
>>>          LP.
>>>                    That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>          for her
>>>
>>>               travel.
>>>                I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
>>>          Representatives
>>>               will attend state conventions within their
>>>
>>>          region.  If
>>>
>>>          any of
>>>
>>>          them
>>>               do membership recruiting for national while
>>>
>>>          there,
>>>
>>>          that's
>>>
>>>          something
>>>               they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn
>>>
>>>          Ann
>>>
>>>      wouldn't
>>>          have
>>>               tried to boost membership at a state convention
>>>
>>>          within
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>          region,
>>>               if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.
>>>
>>>      This
>>>          was
>>>
>>>               something she was doing as she chose to do, while
>>>
>>>          attending
>>>
>>>               conventions within her own region. This isn't
>>>
>>>      something
>>>          that
>>>
>>>      an
>>>          LNC
>>>               member should be reimbursed for. <<<
>>>                    I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>>
>>>          conventions to
>>>
>>>          have
>>>               her do
>>>                    this work. No one else has done this as
>>>
>>>          successfully as
>>>
>>>          Caryn
>>>               Ann.
>>>                    Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>>
>>>          for
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>      time.
>>>               Wes, you don't know what others have done
>>>
>>>          regarding
>>>
>>>      recruiting,
>>>          as
>>>               most people do it as a normal part of being in
>>>
>>>          the LP.
>>>
>>>          I,
>>>
>>>      nor
>>>          most
>>>               others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
>>>
>>>          join
>>>
>>>          the LP,
>>>
>>>          as I
>>>               see it as a given this is done.<<<
>>>               Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
>>>
>>>          let
>>>
>>>          national
>>>
>>>               membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>          national
>>>
>>>          LP.  At
>>>               my last state convention, our officers said that
>>>
>>>          they
>>>
>>>          want
>>>
>>>          people to
>>>               keep state memberships current, but national
>>>
>>>          doesn't
>>>
>>>      do
>>>
>>>          anything for
>>>               them, so they don't care much about that.  I had
>>>
>>>          to
>>>
>>>          mention
>>>
>>>          that our
>>>               delegate count is tied to national membership,
>>>
>>>          and
>>>
>>>      since
>>>
>>>      then,
>>>          I
>>>               followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
>>>
>>>          dropped.
>>>
>>>      I've
>>>          been
>>>               thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
>>>
>>>          successful
>>>
>>>      in
>>>               reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
>>>
>>>          are
>>>
>>>          passionate
>>>               about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because
>>>
>>>          anyone
>>>
>>>          is
>>>
>>>      being
>>>               reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
>>>
>>>          (My
>>>
>>>          state
>>>
>>>          isn't the
>>>               only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
>>>                    For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>>
>>>          take
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>      time
>>>          to
>>>               attend,
>>>                    I will be sending our staff member Jess
>>>
>>>          Mears.
>>>
>>>      The
>>>          thing
>>>
>>>          with
>>>               Jess
>>>                    is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>>
>>>      attend,
>>>          and
>>>
>>>          return
>>>               from
>>>                    state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>>
>>>          high
>>>
>>>      of
>>>          a
>>>
>>>      ROI.
>>>                I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
>>>
>>>      conventions
>>>          to
>>>
>>>          boost
>>>               national membership, if the national LP is paying
>>>
>>>          for
>>>
>>>          it.
>>>
>>>          Instead,
>>>               we should work to create a better LP that's
>>>
>>>          responsive
>>>
>>>          to
>>>
>>>      it's
>>>               members and the public, and we grow through
>>>
>>>          people
>>>
>>>          seeking to
>>>
>>>          join
>>>               us.  Organic growth.<<<
>>>                    I received a complaint today that it is
>>>
>>>          inappropriate
>>>
>>>      for
>>>               someone
>>>                    running for a position on the LNC to have
>>>
>>>          travel
>>>
>>>          reimbursed.
>>>                    I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>>
>>>          think
>>>
>>>          it's a
>>>
>>>               violation
>>>                    of our policies.
>>>               It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
>>>
>>>          Ann
>>>
>>>          Harlos
>>>
>>>      for
>>>               traveling to state conventions within her own
>>>
>>>          region,
>>>
>>>          the LP
>>>
>>>      is
>>>               subsidizing her efforts as a regional
>>>
>>>          representative.
>>>
>>>          This is
>>>
>>>               inappropriate.<<<
>>>                    Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>>
>>>          your
>>>
>>>          feedback. If
>>>               you
>>>                    request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>
>>>          or any
>>>
>>>          other
>>>
>>>          LNC
>>>               member
>>>                    to state conventions for the purpos
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=to+state+conventions+for+the+purpos&entry=gmail&source=g>e
>>> of
>>>
>>>      recruiting
>>>
>>>          dues-paying
>>>                    members, we can end the program.
>>>               Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
>>>
>>>          members
>>>
>>>          for
>>>
>>>          travel to
>>>               state conventions within their own region.  I
>>>
>>>          also am
>>>
>>>          requesting
>>>               that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
>>>
>>>      costs
>>>          of
>>>
>>>      any
>>>          state
>>>               conventions she attended within her region.
>>>               As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
>>>
>>>          this
>>>
>>>          should
>>>
>>>      be
>>>               discussed by the LNC.<<<
>>>                    A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>>
>>>          to
>>>
>>>      go
>>>          to
>>>
>>>          state
>>>                    convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>>
>>>          recruit
>>>
>>>          members--why
>>>               don't
>>>                    you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>>
>>>          proved
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>               willingness
>>>                    and capability within her own region. No
>>>
>>>          other
>>>
>>>      LNC
>>>
>>>      members
>>>          have
>>>                    mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>>
>>>      members
>>>          from
>>>
>>>          their
>>>                    states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
>>>
>>>          are not
>>>
>>>          able
>>>
>>>      to
>>>               attend
>>>                    every state convention. If you are
>>>
>>>          interested in
>>>
>>>      helping,
>>>          and
>>>                    willing to prove your ability first at a
>>>
>>>          state in
>>>
>>>          your
>>>
>>>          region
>>>               or at
>>>                    another state at your own expense, let me
>>>
>>>          know
>>>
>>>      and
>>>          we
>>>
>>>          might be
>>>               able
>>>                    to try that. And then we can report the
>>>
>>>          results.
>>>
>>>                [12]Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
>>>
>>>          due to
>>>
>>>      a
>>>          FB
>>>
>>>          post
>>>               that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
>>>
>>>          he's
>>>
>>>      the
>>>
>>>      reason
>>>          she
>>>               renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
>>>
>>>      quite
>>>          a
>>>
>>>          number of
>>>               people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an
>>>
>>>          excellent
>>>
>>>          advocate
>>>               for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to
>>>
>>>          find
>>>
>>>          someone
>>>
>>>          who's out
>>>               there building up hope in the LP, and getting
>>>
>>>          people
>>>
>>>      on
>>>
>>>      board,
>>>          he's
>>>               the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as
>>>
>>>          Andy
>>>
>>>          doesn't
>>>
>>>          seek
>>>               to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
>>>
>>>          sees it
>>>
>>>      as
>>>
>>>      normal
>>>          for
>>>               people who support the LP.
>>>               Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
>>>
>>>          track
>>>
>>>      of
>>>          how
>>>
>>>          many
>>>               people they've recruited.  So, your statement
>>>
>>>          asking
>>>
>>>          people
>>>
>>>      to
>>>               "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
>>>               (truncated)
>>>               ---
>>>               Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>             On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>               Dear LNC,
>>>                    Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>>
>>>      dues-paying
>>>
>>>          members by
>>>                    attending state conventions and getting
>>>
>>>          people to
>>>
>>>          join
>>>
>>>      or
>>>               renew.
>>>                    At first, she did this at state conventions
>>>
>>>          she
>>>
>>>      was
>>>
>>>          attending
>>>               in her
>>>                    region at her own expense.
>>>                    Her results were so strong that I asked her
>>>
>>>          if
>>>
>>>      she
>>>          would
>>>
>>>          be
>>>               willing
>>>                    to go to some other states outside of her
>>>
>>>          region
>>>
>>>      to
>>>          do
>>>
>>>          similar
>>>                    fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>>
>>>          were
>>>
>>>          reimbursed.
>>>                    We have been struggling to keep membership
>>>
>>>          from
>>>
>>>          falling.
>>>
>>>          We
>>>               send
>>>                    renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>>
>>>          perform
>>>
>>>      reasonably
>>>          well
>>>               but
>>>                    pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>>
>>>          methods we
>>>
>>>          try
>>>
>>>      have
>>>          very
>>>               low
>>>                    ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>>
>>>      strong.
>>>
>>>                    Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>>
>>>      convention
>>>          last
>>>
>>>          weekend
>>>               and
>>>                    recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>          national
>>>
>>>          LP.
>>>                    That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>          for her
>>>
>>>               travel.
>>>                    I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>>
>>>          conventions to
>>>
>>>          have
>>>               her do
>>>                    this work. No one else has done this as
>>>
>>>          successfully as
>>>
>>>          Caryn
>>>               Ann.
>>>                    Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>>
>>>          for
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>      time.
>>>                    For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>>
>>>          take
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>      time
>>>          to
>>>               attend,
>>>                    I will be sending our staff member Jess
>>>
>>>          Mears.
>>>
>>>      The
>>>          thing
>>>
>>>          with
>>>               Jess
>>>                    is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>>
>>>      attend,
>>>          and
>>>
>>>          return
>>>               from
>>>                    state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>>
>>>          high
>>>
>>>      of
>>>          a
>>>
>>>      ROI.
>>>                    I received a complaint today that it is
>>>
>>>          inappropriate
>>>
>>>      for
>>>               someone
>>>                    running for a position on the LNC to have
>>>
>>>          travel
>>>
>>>          reimbursed.
>>>                    I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>>
>>>          think
>>>
>>>          it's a
>>>
>>>               violation
>>>                    of our policies.
>>>                    Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>>
>>>          your
>>>
>>>          feedback. If
>>>               you
>>>                    request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>
>>>          or any
>>>
>>>          other
>>>
>>>          LNC
>>>               member
>>>                    to state conventions for the purpose of
>>>
>>>      recruiting
>>>
>>>          dues-paying
>>>                    members, we can end the program.
>>>                    A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>>
>>>          to
>>>
>>>      go
>>>          to
>>>
>>>          state
>>>                    convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>>
>>>          recruit
>>>
>>>          members--why
>>>               don't
>>>                    you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>>
>>>          proved
>>>
>>>          her
>>>
>>>               willingness
>>>                    and capability within her own region. No
>>>
>>>          other
>>>
>>>      LNC
>>>
>>>      members
>>>          have
>>>                    mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>>
>>>      members
>>>          from
>>>
>>>          their
>>>                    states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
>>>
>>>          are
>>>
>>>          not
>>>
>>>      able
>>>          to
>>>               attend
>>>                    every state convention. If you are
>>>
>>>          interested in
>>>
>>>      helping,
>>>          and
>>>                    willing to prove your ability first at a
>>>
>>>          state in
>>>
>>>          your
>>>
>>>          region
>>>               or at
>>>                    another state at your own expense, let me
>>>
>>>          know
>>>
>>>      and
>>>          we
>>>
>>>          might be
>>>               able
>>>                    to try that. And then we can report the
>>>
>>>          results.
>>>
>>>                    Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
>>>
>>>          some of
>>>
>>>          the
>>>
>>>               fundraising
>>>                    results from Caryn Ann.
>>>                    I welcome your feedback.
>>>               Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>>               Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>               1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>               [3][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>>>
>>>          [1][4][3][4][10][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>
>>>               [2][5][4][5][11][15]facebook.com/libertarians
>>>
>>>          @LPNational
>>>
>>>               Join the Libertarian Party at:
>>>          [3][6][5][6][12][16]http://lp.org/membership
>>>                  -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>                  Subject: Harlos Fundraising
>>>                     Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
>>>                     From: Robert S. Kraus
>>>
>>>          [4]<[7][6][7][13][17]robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>>
>>>                       To: Wes Benedict
>>>
>>>          [5]<[8][7][8][14][18]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>>
>>>               I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
>>>
>>>          of
>>>
>>>          $2,335.00
>>>
>>>          for 82
>>>               members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
>>>
>>>          have
>>>
>>>      also
>>>
>>>          contributed
>>>               a
>>>               net total excluding conv related gifts of
>>>
>>>          $6,261.74
>>>
>>>          since
>>>
>>>      2016
>>>               convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
>>>
>>>          of
>>>
>>>          course so
>>>
>>>          she has
>>>               her
>>>               fans)
>>>               In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
>>>
>>>          $12,120
>>>
>>>          raised for
>>>               Historic Preservation
>>>               Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
>>>
>>>          2016
>>>
>>>          convention
>>>
>>>          (non
>>>               convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
>>>
>>>          Preservation)
>>>
>>>               --
>>>               Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
>>>               [6]Operations at LP.org
>>>               Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>               1444 Duke Street
>>>               Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>               Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
>>>               References
>>>                  1. mailto:[11][8][9][15][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>                  2.
>>>
>>>          [12][9][10][16][20]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>
>>>                  3. [13][10][11][17][21]http://lp.org/membership
>>>                  4. mailto:[14][11][12][18][22]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>                  5. mailto:[15][12][13][19][23]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>                  6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
>>>          References
>>>             1. mailto:[13][14][20][24]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>             2.
>>>
>>>          [14][15][21][25]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+M
>>> ears+
>>>      together
>>>          +are
>>>
>>>          +n&e
>>>
>>>          ntry=gmail&source=g
>>>             3. tel:[26](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>>>             4. mailto:[15][16][22][27]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>             5. [16][17][23][28]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>             6. [17][18][24][29]http://lp.org/membership
>>>             7. mailto:[18][19][25][30]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>             8. mailto:[19][20][26][31]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>             9.
>>>
>>>          [20][21][27][32]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+
>>>      solicitor+fo
>>>          r+a+
>>>
>>>          tota
>>>
>>>          l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>            10. tel:[33]202.333.0008 x 231
>>>            11. mailto:[21][22][28][34]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>            12. [22][23][29][35]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>            13. [23][24][30][36]http://lp.org/membership
>>>            14. mailto:[24][25][31][37]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>            15. mailto:[25][26][32][38]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>            16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
>>>      References
>>>        1. mailto:[27][33][39]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>        2. mailto:[28][34][40]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>        3. mailto:[29][35][41]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>        4. [30][36][42]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>        5. [31][37][43]http://lp.org/membership
>>>        6. mailto:[32][38][44]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>        7. mailto:[33][39][45]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>        8. mailto:[34][40][46]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>        9. [35][41][47]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       10. [36][42][48]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       11. mailto:[37][43][49]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       12. mailto:[38][44][50]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       13. mailto:[39][45][51]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       14.
>>>
>>>          [40][46][52]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears
>>> +toge
>>>      ther+are
>>>          +n&e
>>>
>>>          ntry=gmail&source=g
>>>
>>>       15. mailto:[41][47][53]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       16. [42][48][54]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       17. [43][49][55]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       18. mailto:[44][50][56]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       19. mailto:[45][51][57]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       20.
>>>
>>>          [46][52][58]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+sol
>>> icito
>>>      r+for+a+
>>>          tota
>>>
>>>          l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>
>>>       21. mailto:[47][53][59]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       22. [48][54][60]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       23. [49][55][61]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       24. mailto:[50][56][62]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       25. mailto:[51][57][63]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org
>>>
>>>      References
>>>        1. mailto:[58][64]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>        2. mailto:[59][65]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>        3. mailto:[60][66]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>        4. mailto:[61][67]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>        5. [62][68]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>        6. [63][69]http://lp.org/membership
>>>        7. mailto:[64][70]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>        8. mailto:[65][71]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>        9. mailto:[66][72]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       10. [67][73]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       11. [68][74]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       12. mailto:[69][75]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       13. mailto:[70][76]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       14. mailto:[71][77]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       15.
>>>
>>>          [72][78]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+tog
>>> ether
>>>      +are+n&e
>>>
>>>       16. mailto:[73][79]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       17. [74][80]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       18. [75][81]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       19. mailto:[76][82]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       20. mailto:[77][83]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       21.
>>>
>>>          [78][84]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicit
>>> or+fo
>>>      r+a+tota
>>>
>>>       22. mailto:[79][85]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       23. [80][86]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       24. [81][87]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       25. mailto:[82][88]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       26. mailto:[83][89]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       27. mailto:[84][90]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>       28. mailto:[85][91]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       29. mailto:[86][92]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       30. [87][93]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       31. [88][94]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       32. mailto:[89][95]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       33. mailto:[90][96]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       34. mailto:[91][97]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       35. [92][98]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       36. [93][99]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       37. mailto:[94][100]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       38. mailto:[95][101]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       39. mailto:[96][102]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       40.
>>>
>>>          [97][103]https://maps.google.com/?q
>>>      =n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>>>          ntry=gmail&source=g
>>>
>>>       41. mailto:[98][104]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       42. [99][105]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       43. [100][106]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       44. mailto:[101][107]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       45. mailto:[102][108]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       46.
>>>
>>>          [103][109]https://maps.google.com/?
>>>      q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tot
>>>          al+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>
>>>       47. mailto:[104][110]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       48. [105][111]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       49. [106][112]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       50. mailto:[107][113]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       51. mailto:[108][114]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       52. mailto:[109]Operations at LP.org
>>>
>>>      References
>>>        1. mailto:[115]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>        2. mailto:[116]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>        3. mailto:[117]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>        4. mailto:[118]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>        5. mailto:[119]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>        6. mailto:[120]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>        7. mailto:[121]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>        8. mailto:[122]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>        9. mailto:[123]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       10. mailto:[124]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       11. [125]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       12. [126]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       13. mailto:[127]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       14. mailto:[128]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       15. mailto:[129]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       16. [130]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       17. [131]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       18. mailto:[132]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       19. mailto:[133]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       20. mailto:[134]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       21. [135]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+A
>>>      nn+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
>>>       22. mailto:[136]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       23. [137]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       24. [138]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       25. mailto:[139]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       26. mailto:[140]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       27. [141]https://maps.google.com/?q=Har
>>>      los+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+
>>>       28. mailto:[142]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       29. [143]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       30. [144]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       31. mailto:[145]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       32. mailto:[146]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       33. mailto:[147]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>       34. mailto:[148]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       35. mailto:[149]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       36. [150]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       37. [151]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       38. mailto:[152]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       39. mailto:[153]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       40. mailto:[154]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       41. [155]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       42. [156]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       43. mailto:[157]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       44. mailto:[158]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       45. mailto:[159]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       46. [160]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+A
>>>      nn+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>>>       47. mailto:[161]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       48. [162]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       49. [163]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       50. mailto:[164]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       51. mailto:[165]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       52. [166]https://maps.google.com/?q=Har
>>>      los+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
>>>       53. mailto:[167]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       54. [168]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>       55. [169]http://lp.org/membership
>>>       56. mailto:[170]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>       57. mailto:[171]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       58. mailto:[172]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       59. mailto:[173]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>       60. mailto:[174]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>       61. mailto:[175]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>       62. [176]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>>    1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>    2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    5. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    6. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    7. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    8. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>    9. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>   10. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>   11. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>   12.
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=Wes,+I+know+a+woman+who+renewed+h
>>> er+membership&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>   13. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>>>   14. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   15. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>   16. http://lp.org/membership
>>>   17. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>   18. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   19. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   20. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>   21. http://lp.org/membership
>>>   22. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>   23. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   24. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>   25. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together
>>>   26. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>>>   27. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   28. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>   29. http://lp.org/membership
>>>   30. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>   31. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   32. https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+fo
>>>   33. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
>>>   34. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   35. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>   36. http://lp.org/membership
>>>   37. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>   38. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   39. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>   40. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>   41. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   42. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>   43. http://lp.org/membership
>>>   44. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>   45. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   46. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   47. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>   48. http://lp.org/membership
>>>   49. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>   50. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   51. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>   52. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
>>>   53. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>   54. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>
>>
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   The email formatting since the switch is sub-optimal.  I have footers
   with dozens of links and it is often a jumble to see where there is a
   reply.

   On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   If I don't reply, it means I didn't see.  If I am anything, it is an
   obsessive replier.
   -Caryn Ann

   On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
   <[2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

   Thank you Caryn Ann, that helps.
   I had asked a question in one of the emails, which must have gotten
   lost too, as you didn't reply.  (Although, that's your prerogative,
   even if you did see the question.)
   ---
   Elizabeth Van Horn
   On 2018-02-23 23:09, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

   I see something I missed:
      ==Caryn Ann reported that she attended a meeting in WA. So, she
   clearly
      has the wherewithal to attend state affiliate meetings. ==
      Yes I clearly have a computer in which to log-in to an e-meeting
   when a
      state Chair requests.
      -Caryn Ann
      On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
      <[1][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
        ---
        Elizabeth Van Horn
        On 2018-02-23 22:27, Daniel Hayes wrote:
        Caryn Ann,
        It was mentioned to you by Wes.  I was in on the conversation
        because
        you and I are the two most active fundraisers and membership
        recruiters on the board.  Was that in NOLA or Kansas City?
        ------Daniel, yet the board members that replied here today, and
        they were on the LNC during the meetings you mention, didn't know
        about it.
        Wes wanted to experiment with it.  This stuff all gets disclosed
   in
        the Treasurer’s report.
        ------Experimenting, is fine. Covering the cost for an LNC member
   to
        go to state conventions within their own region is something that
        should have been discussed with this board.
        Hopefully, other board members take a more active role in fund
        raising
        going forward.   This discussion has been much longer than it
   needed
        to be and much less civil than required.
        ------My objections aren't to fundraising, but to covering costs
   for
        an LNC member to attend state conventions within their own region.
        I also object to this type of arrangement being made with a broad
        communication to this board. The surprise that people have
   expressed
        here is an indicator that this wasn't something that was
        communicated to the board.
        Also, I don't think anyone has been uncivil.
        Now that it’s revealed that I was “involved” that should explain
   it.
        This shall be placed with all my other crimes, including refusing
   to
        re-Life Harambe and have him speak at the NatCon.
        ------Your commentary doesn't explain anything that changes my
   mind
        about the inappropriateness of this situation.
        I get peoples issue with it, but I was there and understand Wes’s
        perspective and agreed with it.  I’m more concerned with results.
        We
        have an all too regular habit of tying our shoe’s laces together.
        We
        get lost in the minutia.
        ------Daniel, you understanding and agreeing with Wes, doesn't do
        anything to change the inappropriateness of the situation.
        Daniel Hayes
        LNC At Large Member
        Sent from my iPhone
        On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
        <[2][4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
          Actually this board does know me.  I have served nearly a full
        term
          with them.  Your predecessors knew me well.  And this idea for
          fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC.  In
   fact
        - I
          think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break time
        about
          innovative fundraising.  I could be wrong but I think Wes did
        mention
          it (he would know that better than I) It could only be executed
        once
          conventions started.  My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t forsee
        that
          Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had to
   prove
          myself to them anew.
          I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
          <[1][3][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
          Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people were
        ready to
          assume that was true.  I was not because I know you and others
   did
        not.
          There is nothing more to say on the exchange here.  You think it
        was
          perfectly appropriate and I don’t.  More digital ink will not
        change
          that.
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
          <[2][4][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
          If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather
   than
          openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
          I followed our policy.  I openly discussed this on FB.  It is in
        every
          financial report.
          It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
          There was no lack of transparency that I saw.  I told the
   members
        at
          each convention that my trip was paid.  Fundraising is under the
          direction of the ED and I followed that.
          Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not some
        unusual
          thing.  My time was donated.  The expense to move my body (the
          equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part of
          fundraising.
          And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault.  It
        doesn’t
          end does it.
          So I’ll end it.  I’ve said what I wish to on that “question” of
   my
        “odd
          and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that
   answers
        your
          question on that front.
          -Caryn Ann
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
          <[3][5][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
          And if it is spleen venting time well good.  I step forward to
        every
          challenge I can.  Staff knows they can call me at any time with
   an
          emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it.  If
        staff
          called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever]
   tomorrow
        can
          you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
          My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully earned.
          There is nothing that was done outside of our rules.  If the LNC
          believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they
   should
        do
          it.
          But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my
        propriety.
          -Caryn Ann
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
          <[4][6][8]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
          I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have to
   be
        voted
          on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of micromanagement
   we
          wallow in.
          We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m.  We said last
        meeting
          that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to test.
        He
          followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
          I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal) this
          season.  We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect the
          intentions of our peers instead.
          I followed procedure and the Policy Manual.  I don’t have a
        crystal
          ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
          -Caryn Ann
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
          <[5][7][9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
          I’m not going to devolve into those arguments.  It was an
        inappropriate
          insinuation.  Which you just followed with another one.
          I followed protocol as I understood it.  This was in the
        discretion of
          the ED.  The Chair and Treasurer approves.  Staff was openly
          coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that would
   have
          anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the Party
          approved.
          I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about
   pennies
        on
          steemit.
          A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that could
        involve
          you that was disturbing.  I asked you directly and it confirmed
   my
          judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
          You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
        povertaruans
          suffered.  That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see that
   if
        you
          don’t and I won’t spend further time trying.  A comment of mine
        about
          donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd at
        all )
          was twisted into something “disturbing”  - couching it with “I
        wonder”
          doesn’t change that fact.
          That was a low comment.  If it were made to you you would be
        requesting
          me to call it out.  And I frankly would.
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
          <[6][8][10]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
            I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question.  As for the
        courtesy
            of a
            direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been
        avoided,
            with
            the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
            ---
            Elizabeth Van Horn
            On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
        Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward
            at
          least with my volunteering on this.  I will decline.
          I will do things on my own as I have done.  Less effectively
            and
        less
          often but more peacefully.
          My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
            insinuation
        stated
          by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
            cutoff
          point.
          It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and
            eat
        their
          own.
          QED.
          I never thought I would regret my recruiting success.  The LP
            has
          surprised me once again.
          -Caryn Ann
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
          <[1][7][9][11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
            Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister,
            not I.
            You wrote:
            " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
            Which
        I
            do
            at every event."
            In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
        national
            LP.
            Glad we're in agreement.
            ---
            Elizabeth Van Horn
            On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
        Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
            something
            sinister
          but not everything.
          My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
            of
            that.
          I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
            trips are
            just
        that
          and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I
            would
            spend
        my
          time.  Which I do at every event.
          On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
          <[1][2][8][10][12]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
               I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
            although I'd
            emphasize that
               my issue is more about disclosure of potential
            issues to
            the
            board
               ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
            see
            here.  I
               explained some, I can find more.  The solution to
            that
        is,
            in
        the
               future, disclosure to the board of transactions
        involving
            LNC
            members,
               and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I
            am
            writing
        to
               express disagreement with one point:  I almost
            always
            disagree
            with
               clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
            malfeasance.  I
            would
               disagree with requesting the return of funds or
            stopping
            funds
        in
               progress.
               Joshua A. Katz
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
               <[1][2][3][9][11][13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
                 Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
            that
        I
            was
            shocked
                 to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
        attend
        state
                 conventions within their own region.
                 Dear LNC,
                      Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
        dues-paying
            members by
                      attending state conventions and getting
            people to
            join
        or
                 renew.
                      At first, she did this at state conventions
            she
        was
            attending
                 in her
                      region at her own expense.
                 I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
            often
            attend
            state
                 conventions within their own region, and if she
            works
        to
        boost
                 national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
                      Her results were so strong that I asked her
            if
        she
            would
            be
                 willing
                      to go to some other states outside of her
            region
        to
            do
            similar
                      fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
            were
            reimbursed.
                 < This is something that should have been told to
            the
            LNC,
        and
            even
                 discussed.  Why are we only finding this out,
            after
            someone
                 inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
                      We have been struggling to keep membership
            from
            falling.
            We
                 send
                      renewal emails and renewal letters that
            perform
        reasonably
            well
                 but
                      pretty much exhaust that method. Other
            methods we
            try
        have
            very
                 low
                      ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
        strong.
                      Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
        convention
            last
            weekend
                 and
                      recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
            the
            national
            LP.
                      That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
            her
            for her
                 travel.
                  I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
            Representatives
                 will attend state conventions within their
            region.  If
            any of
            them
                 do membership recruiting for national while
            there,
            that's
            something
                 they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn
            Ann
        wouldn't
            have
                 tried to boost membership at a state convention
            within
            her
            region,
                 if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.
        This
            was
                 something she was doing as she chose to do, while
            attending
                 conventions within her own region. This isn't
        something
            that
        an
            LNC
                 member should be reimbursed for. <<<
                      I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
            conventions to
            have
                 her do
                      this work. No one else has done this as
            successfully as
            Caryn
                 Ann.
                      Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
            for
            her
        time.
                 Wes, you don't know what others have done
            regarding
        recruiting,
            as
                 most people do it as a normal part of being in
            the LP.
            I,
        nor
            most
                 others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
            join
            the LP,
            as I
                 see it as a given this is done.<<<
                 Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
            let
            national
                 membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with
            the
            national
            LP.  At
                 my last state convention, our officers said that
            they
            want
            people to
                 keep state memberships current, but national
            doesn't
        do
            anything for
                 them, so they don't care much about that.  I had
            to
            mention
            that our
                 delegate count is tied to national membership,
            and
        since
        then,
            I
                 followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
            dropped.
        I've
            been
                 thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
            successful
        in
                 reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
            are
            passionate
                 about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because
            anyone
            is
        being
                 reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
            (My
            state
            isn't the
                 only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
                      For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
            take
            the
        time
            to
                 attend,
                      I will be sending our staff member Jess
            Mears.
        The
            thing
            with
                 Jess
                      is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
        attend,
            and
            return
                 from
                      state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
            high
        of
            a
        ROI.
                  I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
        conventions
            to
            boost
                 national membership, if the national LP is paying
            for
            it.
            Instead,
                 we should work to create a better LP that's
            responsive
            to
        it's
                 members and the public, and we grow through
            people
            seeking to
            join
                 us.  Organic growth.<<<
                      I received a complaint today that it is
            inappropriate
        for
                 someone
                      running for a position on the LNC to have
            travel
            reimbursed.
                      I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
            think
            it's a
                 violation
                      of our policies.
                 It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
            Ann
            Harlos
        for
                 traveling to state conventions within her own
            region,
            the LP
        is
                 subsidizing her efforts as a regional
            representative.
            This is
                 inappropriate.<<<
                      Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
            your
            feedback. If
                 you
                      request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
            or any
            other
            LNC
                 member
                      [14]to state conventions for the purpose of
        recruiting
            dues-paying
                      members, we can end the program.
                 Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
            members
            for
            travel to
                 state conventions within their own region.  I
            also am
            requesting
                 that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
        costs
            of
        any
            state
                 conventions she attended within her region.
                 As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
            this
            should
        be
                 discussed by the LNC.<<<
                      A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
            to
        go
            to
            state
                      convention at the expense of the LNC and
            recruit
            members--why
                 don't
                      you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
            proved
            her
                 willingness
                      and capability within her own region. No
            other
        LNC
        members
            have
                      mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
        members
            from
            their
                      states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
            are not
            able
        to
                 attend
                      every state convention. If you are
            interested in
        helping,
            and
                      willing to prove your ability first at a
            state in
            your
            region
                 or at
                      another state at your own expense, let me
            know
        and
            we
            might be
                 able
                      to try that. And then we can report the
            results.
                  [12]Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
            due to
        a
            FB
            post
                 that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
            he's
        the
        reason
            she
                 renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
        quite
            a
            number of
                 people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an
            excellent
            advocate
                 for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to
            find
            someone
            who's out
                 there building up hope in the LP, and getting
            people
        on
        board,
            he's
                 the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as
            Andy
            doesn't
            seek
                 to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
            sees it
        as
        normal
            for
                 people who support the LP.
                 Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
            track
        of
            how
            many
                 people they've recruited.  So, your statement
            asking
            people
        to
                 "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
                 (truncated)
                 ---
                 Elizabeth Van Horn
               On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
                 Dear LNC,
                      Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
        dues-paying
            members by
                      attending state conventions and getting
            people to
            join
        or
                 renew.
                      At first, she did this at state conventions
            she
        was
            attending
                 in her
                      region at her own expense.
                      Her results were so strong that I asked her
            if
        she
            would
            be
                 willing
                      to go to some other states outside of her
            region
        to
            do
            similar
                      fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
            were
            reimbursed.
                      We have been struggling to keep membership
            from
            falling.
            We
                 send
                      renewal emails and renewal letters that
            perform
        reasonably
            well
                 but
                      pretty much exhaust that method. Other
            methods we
            try
        have
            very
                 low
                      ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
        strong.
                      Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
        convention
            last
            weekend
                 and
                      recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
            the
            national
            LP.
                      That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
            her
            for her
                 travel.
                      I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
            conventions to
            have
                 her do
                      this work. No one else has done this as
            successfully as
            Caryn
                 Ann.
                      Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
            for
            her
        time.
                      For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
            take
            the
        time
            to
                 attend,
                      I will be sending our staff member Jess
            Mears.
        The
            thing
            with
                 Jess
                      is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
        attend,
            and
            return
                 from
                      state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
            high
        of
            a
        ROI.
                      I received a complaint today that it is
            inappropriate
        for
                 someone
                      running for a position on the LNC to have
            travel
            reimbursed.
                      I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
            think
            it's a
                 violation
                      of our policies.
                      Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
            your
            feedback. If
                 you
                      request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
            or any
            other
            LNC
                 member
                      to state conventions for the purpose of
        recruiting
            dues-paying
                      members, we can end the program.
                      A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
            to
        go
            to
            state
                      convention at the expense of the LNC and
            recruit
            members--why
                 don't
                      you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
            proved
            her
                 willingness
                      and capability within her own region. No
            other
        LNC
        members
            have
                      mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
        members
            from
            their
                      states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
            are
            not
        able
            to
                 attend
                      every state convention. If you are
            interested in
        helping,
            and
                      willing to prove your ability first at a
            state in
            your
            region
                 or at
                      another state at your own expense, let me
            know
        and
            we
            might be
                 able
                      to try that. And then we can report the
            results.
                      Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
            some of
            the
                 fundraising
                      results from Caryn Ann.
                      I welcome your feedback.
                 Wes Benedict, Executive Director
                 Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
                 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
                 [3][13][15](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
            [1][4][3][4][10][14][16]wes.benedict at lp.org
                 [2][5][4][5][11][15][17]facebook.com/libertarians
            @LPNational
                 Join the Libertarian Party at:
            [3][6][5][6][12][16][18]http://lp.org/membership
                    -------- Forwarded Message --------
                    Subject: Harlos Fundraising
                       Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
                       From: Robert S. Kraus
            [4]<[7][6][7][13][17][19]robert.kraus at lp.org>
                         To: Wes Benedict
            [5]<[8][7][8][14][18][20]wes.benedict at lp.org>
                 I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
            of
            $2,335.00
            for 82
                 members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
            have
        also
            contributed
                 a
                 net total excluding conv related gifts of
            $6,261.74
            since
        2016
                 convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
            of
            course so
            she has
                 her
                 fans)
                 In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
            $12,120
            raised for
                 Historic Preservation
                 Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
            2016
            convention
            (non
                 convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
            Preservation)
                 --
                 Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
                 [6]Operations at LP.org
                 Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
                 1444 Duke Street
                 Alexandria, VA 22314
                 Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
                 References
                    1. mailto:[11][8][9][15][19][21]wes.benedict at lp.org
                    2.
            [12][9][10][16][20][22]http://facebook.com/libertarians
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               2.
            [14][15][21][25][27]https://maps.
   google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+
        together
            +are
            +n&e
            ntry=gmail&source=g
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               9.
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   google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+
        solicitor+fo
            r+a+
            tota
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              16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
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         26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org
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