[Lnc-business] URGENT - Request for ExCom meeting to add LP's voice opposing FOSTA (HR 1865) and SESTA (S. 1693)

Daniel Hayes daniel.hayes at lp.org
Wed Feb 28 10:45:30 EST 2018


Wes,

That’s GREAT NEWS!

Daniel

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
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> A press release is drafted on the topic and working its way through the editorial, approval, and distribution process, likely to lead to a publication this afternoon.
> 
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
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>> On 2/28/2018 10:18 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>> If we had a press release go out about these sex trafficking “protection” rackets the government runs that would be great.  They pulled 8 strip clubs liquor licenses very recently over sex trafficking concerns.   A news station had done a YEAR long investigation prior to this happening and did not find evidence even once at any of the clubs.
>> 
>> That put people out of work for a week or longer when they were set to have one of their busier periods with Mardi Gras.  One girl in a news article reported she had just gotten an apartment after being homeless thanks to dancing.  Any honest person can grasp which situation put her at the actual risk for being kidnapped and trafficked.  Thanks to the morality police this young woman had to worry about facing that danger again instead of being in a club where she decides what she wants tk do within their rules and has very definite protection against being forced to do something she doesn’t.
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>> I think I see a breakout here for convention.  The use of sex trafficking concerns to push political agendas.  I have some connections to some of the organizers of the protests down here.    It might be a good way to bring some news faces in.
>> 
>> Now if we just had a press release.
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>> 
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
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>>> Daniel, and anyone else, who's still having an issue with not seeing attachments or links.  I've always gone straight to the lpmail.lp.org/webmail   (Roundcube webmail)
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>>> I have a link saved in a bookmark, click it, and am there.  On my PC  (I realize I could have uses an email software to incorporate into my other mail, but didn't want to this this purpose.)
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>>> So, if continuing to have issues with attachments and links not being seen, try going straight to the roundcube webmail.
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>>> ---
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>> 
>>>> On 2018-02-27 16:16, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>>> The email system is gaslighting me.   NOW I have “pictures” imbedded
>>>> in the middle of the email along with attachments.
>>>> Daniel
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> I see both the attachments and the links. (Attachments are pdfs)
>>>>> I also agree with Starchild on this issue.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> On 2018-02-26 19:40, Starchild wrote:
>>>>>> I'm requesting that the LNC Executive Committee hold a special meeting
>>>>>> ASAP for the purpose of voting to add the Libertarian Party as a
>>>>>> signatory to the following attached letter in opposition to two bad
>>>>>> pieces of legislation currently in Congress which would further
>>>>>> criminalize consensual prostitution, and related online speech
>>>>>> including sharing harm reduction and safety tips for sex workers, in
>>>>>> the name of fighting sex trafficking (which they would do nothing to
>>>>>> stop).
>>>>>>   This harmful legislation was just brought to my attention. The House
>>>>>> bill, the "Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking
>>>>>> Act" or FOSTA, may be voted on in the House as soon as TOMORROW
>>>>>> (Tuesday, February 27), which makes this a time–sensitive matter that
>>>>>> lacks the time for a vote of the full LNC.
>>>>>>   I've reviewed the letter and did not notice anything substantive in
>>>>>> it that is objectionable from a libertarian perspective, but I
>>>>>> encourage others to review it as well. Due to our screwed-up email
>>>>>> list, I have copied the text of the letter below as well as attaching
>>>>>> it as a PDF file. Also attached is a graphic detailing some of the
>>>>>> provisions of these two bills (which may not come through).
>>>>>>   The libertarian-oriented Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) also
>>>>>> has a page devoted to stopping FOSTA for its Internet censorship
>>>>>> provisions –
>>>>>> https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1693 .
>>>>>> Another website with additional information detailing what's bad about
>>>>>> both bills is
>>>>>> https://medium.com/@EngineOrg/myth-vs-fact-what-you-need-to-know-about-sesta-fosta-850e74f3b8c4
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>   The actual text of the bills can be read at
>>>>>> https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865 (FOSTA)
>>>>>> and https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1693
>>>>>> (SESTA).
>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>>                                    ((( starchild )))
>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>                         RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>>>>                                  (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>>                                    @StarchildSF
>>>>>> TEXT OF LETTER FOR LP TO SIGN ONTO:
>>>>>> February 25, 2018
>>>>>> As organizations which support the rights, health and wellbeing of
>>>>>> individuals who trade sex, the undersigned are firmly against the
>>>>>> passage of “Stop Enabling Sex Trafficking Act” SESTA (S. 1693) and
>>>>>> “Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” FOSTA (H.1865). This legislation
>>>>>> will cause harm without improving anti-trafficking efforts. Passage of
>>>>>> this legislation will put the most vulnerable in our communities at
>>>>>> higher risk of violence and victimization. We reject legislation that
>>>>>> threaten the lives and safety of individuals trading sex - people who
>>>>>> are disproportionately LGBTQ, immigrant, and people of color trying to
>>>>>> survive. This legislation will target peers and communities who use
>>>>>> the internet for harm reduction and anti-violence work, and isolate
>>>>>> people who trade sex, increasing vulnerability to violence and
>>>>>> victimization.
>>>>>> Meaningful anti-trafficking work should not make those in the sex
>>>>>> trade more susceptible to violence and exploitation. After the closure
>>>>>> of RedBook or Rentboy.com, sex workers became even more vulnerable and
>>>>>> economically precarious. Both FOSTA and SESTA promote the closing of
>>>>>> those websites and chill the possibility for organizations to create
>>>>>> internet-based platforms which service providers and communities use
>>>>>> to distribute and access harm reduction and safety information and
>>>>>> techniques.
>>>>>> Under the current language in the Communications and Decency Act,
>>>>>> prosecutors have every tool required to go after third parties,
>>>>>> including websites, who have engaged in trafficking in persons. The
>>>>>> proposed changes made by SESTA open this to a wider civil liability
>>>>>> without clear guidelines for how to obey the law. These costly
>>>>>> lawsuits could easily imperil any website which caters to, or even
>>>>>> acknowledges, people who trade sex. This including websites which:
>>>>>> - Host ads, enabling safer conditions and screening for violence
>>>>>> - Host harm reduction information and mechanisms, including safety and
>>>>>> health tips for workers
>>>>>> - Create community for people who trade sex to share information
>>>>>> We anticipate that this will have a chilling effect on websites and
>>>>>> organizations providing valuable safety information, community and
>>>>>> peer support. Denying these resources exacerbate the risk of violence
>>>>>> and victimization of sex workers, including those experiencing
>>>>>> exploitation.
>>>>>> Websites which hold that information are also vital resources for
>>>>>> trafficking investigations. Pushing the sex trade further underground
>>>>>> means that it will be harder to identify potential victims, find an
>>>>>> electronic trail for which to build cases, and resurrect information
>>>>>> to access post-conviction relief. SESTA disincentivizes websites from
>>>>>> holding or creating a digital footprint, destroying these valuable
>>>>>> tools for law enforcement and service providers.
>>>>>> Further, shutting down websites that sex workers use to screen clients
>>>>>> more safely through ads does not deter people from trading sex. To the
>>>>>> contrary, this only drives sex workers to find clients through
>>>>>> street-based work where they face higher rates of violence, HIV, Hep C
>>>>>> and STI transmission, and exploitation. And those with fewer options
>>>>>> will inevitably be the most impacted. The impact of this legislation
>>>>>> is that trafficking victims will see more trauma and violence and have
>>>>>> fewer opportunities for identification by law enforcement.
>>>>>> The House-backed bill, FOSTA, takes this one step further and
>>>>>> criminalizes anyone using those platforms - including sex workers and
>>>>>> trafficking victims - and expands this to prostitution, as opposed to
>>>>>> the narrower crime of sex trafficking. By expanding the Mann Act,
>>>>>> which criminalizes the transportation of a person across state lines
>>>>>> for the purpose of prostitution, to encompass all of the internet
>>>>>> means that all harm reduction tools, which almost always involve
>>>>>> connecting to peers and community for safety and information, makes
>>>>>> people criminally liable for up to ten years in prison. Under FOSTA,
>>>>>> sharing information about violence, victimizers, HIV/STI transmission
>>>>>> when engaged in sex work would put a person at risk for criminal
>>>>>> prosecution. We have already seen these activities criminalized to the
>>>>>> detriment of those trading sex, and very often criminalizing
>>>>>> trafficking victims themselves. Improving anti-trafficking efforts
>>>>>> does not mean expanding the umbrella to crimes which require no force,
>>>>>> fraud or coercion, and this expansion undermines the original intent
>>>>>> of the law.
>>>>>> Currently, there are no standards for what is expected of
>>>>>> internet-based platforms when trafficking in the sex trade is
>>>>>> suspected. This legislation does not get us closer to that goal, and
>>>>>> instead makes it harder for trafficking investigators, prosecutors or
>>>>>> service providers to connect with potential victims and sex workers
>>>>>> better able to protect themselves from exploitation. Meaningful
>>>>>> legislation would empower stakeholders - sex workers, internet
>>>>>> platforms, law enforcement, the legal community and service providers
>>>>>> - to come together and build those expectations in a way which
>>>>>> mitigates harm.
>>>>>> As organizations which believe in supporting the safety and lives of
>>>>>> those engaged in the sex trade, we condemn these efforts and encourage
>>>>>> Congress to focus their efforts on harm reduction. These moves
>>>>>> criminalize the survival of our communities, especially those with
>>>>>> compounding marginalizations which make resources even more difficult
>>>>>> to obtain.
>>>>>> Sincerely,
> 




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