[Lnc-business] LNC members request for Mr. Vohra to resign

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sun Apr 1 22:51:27 EDT 2018


I am not happy with removing lethal.  I will still co-sponsor but that part
is important to me.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:55 PM, <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:

> I support this motion
>
> On 2018-04-01 06:00, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
>> Well I’ll attempt proposed language to get it started:
>>
>>    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force as its
>>    cardinal principle and requires each of its members to certify that
>>    they neither advocate or belief in violent means to achieve political
>>    or social goals.
>>
>>    RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin Vohra
>>    from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated unacceptable
>>    conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into
>>    disrepute, including  making and defending a statement advocating
>>    lethal violence against  state employees who are not directly
>>    threatening imminent lethal harm in violation of our membership
>>    pledge.  These actions further endanger the survival of our movement
>>    and the security of all of our members without their consent.
>>
>>    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>    Starchild, it’s unacceptable and a lot of damage can be done between
>>    now and convention.
>>    I do not wish to be associated with such toxic behavior
>>
>>    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:47 PM Tim Hagan <[2]tim.hagan at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>      I also request Mr. Vohra to resign his position.
>>      ---
>>      Tim Hagan
>>      Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>>      On 2018-03-31 16:04, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>      > I will ask the Vice Chair to resign.  If that does not happen, I
>>      voted
>>      >    against the last motion, and would vote differently at this
>>      time,
>>      >    subject to the same provisions and limitations others have
>>      stated,
>>      > and
>>      >    one additional one: I want to see what the Vice Chair has to
>>      say
>>      > before
>>      >    I fully commit my vote.  However, I will say that this is over
>>      the
>>      > line
>>      >    I described last time, for several reasons.  This is a party,
>>      not a
>>      > . .
>>      >    . well, I can't think of any reputable organization where this
>>      sort
>>      > of
>>      >    thing would be acceptable.  I certainly can't think of any
>>      > libertarian
>>      >    context where this sort of thing makes sense, so it should be
>>      easy
>>      > to
>>      >    word this so as not to divide anyone.  However, we should be
>>      spared
>>      >    having to do so.
>>      >
>>      >    Joshua A. Katz
>>      >    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Alicia Mattson
>>      >    <[1][3]alicia.mattson at lp.org> wrote:
>>      >
>>      >         Presuming that Mr. Vohra does not deny having posted the
>>      > material
>>      >      in
>>      >         question...
>>      >         Of course I would urge Mr. Vohra to resign, but he is not
>>      going
>>      >      to do
>>      >         that.  He's enjoying watching us complain about him.  The
>>      only
>>      >      thing
>>      >         that serves any purpose at this point is finding out
>>      whether
>>      >      those who
>>      >         previously voted against his suspension are willing to
>>      vote
>>      >      differently
>>      >         now.  If so, consider me a willing co-sponsor for a
>>      reasonably
>>      >      worded
>>      >         motion.
>>      >         -Alicia
>>      >         On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>      >         <[1][2][4]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>      >              I would like this to be a clean thread with
>>      signatories to
>>      > a
>>      >           formal
>>      >              request for Mr. Vohra to resign:
>>      >              I add my name
>>      >              --
>>      >              In Liberty,
>>      >              Caryn Ann Harlos
>>      >              Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>      Committee
>>      >      (Alaska,
>>      >              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>      Wyoming,
>>      >           Washington)
>>      >              - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>      >              Communications Director, [2]Libertarian Party of
>>      Colorado
>>      >              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>      >              Chair, Libertarian National Party Platform Committee
>>      >              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>      >              We defend your rights
>>      >              And oppose the use of force
>>      >              Taxation is theft
>>      >           References
>>      >              1. mailto:[2]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>      >              2. [3][3][5]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>      >      References
>>      >         1. mailto:[4][6]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>      >         2. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>      >         3. [6][7]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>      >
>>      > References
>>      >
>>      >    1. mailto:[8]alicia.mattson at lp.org
>>      >    2. mailto:[9]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>      >    3. [10]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>      >    4. mailto:[11]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>      >    5. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>      >    6. [13]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>
>>    --
>>
>>    --
>>
>>    In Liberty,
>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>
>>    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
>>    - [14]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>    Communications Director, [15]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>
>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>    We defend your rights
>>    And oppose the use of force
>>    Taxation is theft
>>
>>    --
>>
>>    --
>>    In Liberty,
>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
>>    - [16]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>    Communications Director, [17]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>    We defend your rights
>>    And oppose the use of force
>>    Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>    2. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
>>    3. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
>>    4. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>    5. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>    6. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>    7. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>    8. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
>>    9. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>   11. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   13. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>   14. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>   16. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   17. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   I am not happy with removing lethal.  I will still co-sponsor but that
   part is important to me.

   On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:55 PM, <[1]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:

     I support this motion
     On 2018-04-01 06:00, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

     Well I’ll attempt proposed language to get it started:
        WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force
     as its
        cardinal principle and requires each of its members to certify
     that
        they neither advocate or belief in violent means to achieve
     political
        or social goals.
        RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin
     Vohra
        from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated
     unacceptable
        conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into
        disrepute, including  making and defending a statement advocating
        lethal violence against  state employees who are not directly
        threatening imminent lethal harm in violation of our membership
        pledge.  These actions further endanger the survival of our
     movement
        and the security of all of our members without their consent.
        On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
        <[1][2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
        Starchild, it’s unacceptable and a lot of damage can be done
     between
        now and convention.
        I do not wish to be associated with such toxic behavior

      On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:47 PM Tim Hagan <[2][3]tim.hagan at lp.org>
   wrote:
        I also request Mr. Vohra to resign his position.
        ---
        Tim Hagan
        Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
        On 2018-03-31 16:04, Joshua Katz wrote:
        > I will ask the Vice Chair to resign.  If that does not happen, I
        voted
        >    against the last motion, and would vote differently at this
        time,
        >    subject to the same provisions and limitations others have
        stated,
        > and
        >    one additional one: I want to see what the Vice Chair has to
        say
        > before
        >    I fully commit my vote.  However, I will say that this is
   over
        the
        > line
        >    I described last time, for several reasons.  This is a party,
        not a
        > . .
        >    . well, I can't think of any reputable organization where
   this
        sort
        > of
        >    thing would be acceptable.  I certainly can't think of any
        > libertarian
        >    context where this sort of thing makes sense, so it should be
        easy
        > to
        >    word this so as not to divide anyone.  However, we should be
        spared
        >    having to do so.
        >
        >    Joshua A. Katz
        >    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Alicia Mattson

          >    <[1][3][4]alicia.mattson at lp.org> wrote:
          >
          >         Presuming that Mr. Vohra does not deny having posted
     the
          > material
          >      in
          >         question...
          >         Of course I would urge Mr. Vohra to resign, but he is
     not
          going
          >      to do
          >         that.  He's enjoying watching us complain about him.
     The
          only
          >      thing
          >         that serves any purpose at this point is finding out
          whether
          >      those who
          >         previously voted against his suspension are willing
     to
          vote
          >      differently
          >         now.  If so, consider me a willing co-sponsor for a
          reasonably
          >      worded
          >         motion.
          >         -Alicia
          >         On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos

        >         <[1][2][4][5]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
        >              I would like this to be a clean thread with
        signatories to
        > a
        >           formal
        >              request for Mr. Vohra to resign:
        >              I add my name
        >              --
        >              In Liberty,
        >              Caryn Ann Harlos
        >              Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
        Committee
        >      (Alaska,
        >              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
        Wyoming,
        >           Washington)
        >              - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
        >              Communications Director, [2]Libertarian Party of
        Colorado
        >              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
        >              Chair, Libertarian National Party Platform
   Committee
        >              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
        >              We defend your rights
        >              And oppose the use of force
        >              Taxation is theft
        >           References
        >              1. mailto:[2]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

          >              2. [3][3][5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
          >      References
          >         1. mailto:[4][6][7]carynannharlos at gmail.com
          >         2. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
          >         3. [6][7][8]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
          >
          > References
          >
          >    1. mailto:[8][9]alicia.mattson at lp.org
          >    2. mailto:[9][10]carynannharlos at gmail.com
          >    3. [10][11]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
          >    4. mailto:[11][12]carynannharlos at gmail.com
          >    5. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
          >    6. [13][13]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
        --
        --
        In Liberty,
        Caryn Ann Harlos
        Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
        Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
     Washington)
        - [14]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
        Communications Director, [15]Libertarian Party of Colorado
        Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
        A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
        We defend your rights
        And oppose the use of force
        Taxation is theft
        --
        --
        In Liberty,
        Caryn Ann Harlos
        Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
        Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
     Washington)
        - [16]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
        Communications Director, [17]Libertarian Party of Colorado
        Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
        A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
        We defend your rights
        And oppose the use of force
        Taxation is theft
     References
        1. mailto:[14]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
        2. mailto:[15]tim.hagan at lp.org
        3. mailto:[16]alicia.mattson at lp.org
        4. mailto:[17]carynannharlos at gmail.com
        5. [18]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
        6. mailto:[19]carynannharlos at gmail.com
        7. [20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
        8. mailto:[21]alicia.mattson at lp.org
        9. mailto:[22]carynannharlos at gmail.com
       10. [23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
       11. mailto:[24]carynannharlos at gmail.com
       12. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       13. [26]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
       14. mailto:[27]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       15. [28]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
       16. mailto:[29]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       17. [30]http://www.lpcolorado.org/

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [31]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [32]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
   2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   3. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
   4. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
   5. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
   7. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   8. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
   9. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
  10. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  11. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  12. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  13. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  14. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
  15. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
  16. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
  17. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  18. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  19. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  21. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
  22. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  24. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  25. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  26. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  27. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  28. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  29. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  30. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  31. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  32. http://www.lpcolorado.org/


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