[Lnc-business] update on timing
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 00:06:38 EDT 2018
Pretty sure other state chairs feel they're being ignored too, but
they're the one's who want to move on from this issue.
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Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-10 23:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> The At-Large results shouldn’t be a one-person audit in this case.
>
> And no one who ran should conduct it.
>
> I continue to offer to assist.
>
> There was no intent to have an inappropriate tone and if anything
> presented that way you have my abject apology.
>
> What is being asked - by several state Chairs - is a timeline. I
> don’t
> think that is unreasonable. They feel like they are being ignored.
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you for your work Alicia. I appreciate your hasty efforts
> and
> dedication in getting these items available as soon as you can.
> Richard
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 05:09 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
> <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Ms. Harlos,
> I indicated before that I would be traveling with a full
> schedule
> and
> only sporadic internet access, and would not return to my
> more
> normal
> routine until Monday. I got home from my trip Sunday
> night,
> and
> starting in the wee hours of Monday morning you started
> the
> "Are
> we
> there yet?" messages about the At-Large details. Then
> throughout
> the
> day it became rather unfair characterizations that I was
> saying
> "well,
> whenever" as though I'm blowing it off. That tone is not
> warranted nor
> appreciated.
> Yes, the state-by-state numbers that add up to the totals
> I
> sent
> do
> exist, but providing that will not be the end of the
> story.
> If
> all I
> send is that, immediately the questions will begin about
> the
> instances
> where those numbers vary from the delegation tally sheets
> because
> we
> caught and corrected errors. Then while I am researching
> to
> answer
> those questions, we all know the internet gossip will get
> silly,
> with
> people not being careful to say only things they know to
> be
> true
> while
> waiting on answers to the questions.
> My usual practice is to do the post-convention audit as
> part
> of
> building the convention minutes, which is near the end of
> my
> to-do list
> after having updated other minutes with timing deadlines,
> policy,
> bylaws, platform, etc. Instead, so I can answer most
> questions
> on
> at-large before they are asked, because there was a very
> close
> outcome
> that involves me, I've prioritized the audit of the
> At-Large
> race
> to do
> it mostly first...though I did also send updated minutes
> to
> meet
> a
> posting deadline and update the Policy Manual earlier.
> When I provide the state-by-state numbers, I'll scan the
> state
> tally
> sheets, plus provide my notes about what's different
> between
> the
> two
> and why so that those questions can be addressed
> simultaneously
> in one
> message, rather than being spread out in different places
> at
> different
> times where people might miss some of it.
> You're well aware of how long it took a team of 10 people
> to
> go
> through
> the Judicial Committee votes after the LNC meeting on July
> 2nd?
> You
> can deduce from that how long it takes one person to give
> the
> At-Large
> the second-pass, fine-tooth-comb treatment. Today I spent
> a
> LARGE
> number of hours on the project. I think I have about a
> dozen
> states
> left to go, plus tally sheet scanning and writing up my
> notes.
> It
> takes only a few seconds for you to ask, "Are we there
> yet?", but
> it
> takes a lot longer to actually accomplish it.
> I didn't have the crystal ball at the start of the project
> to
> know
> precisely how long I would get to work on it today, or how
> long
> it
> would take to complete. Rather than emailing the LNC
> every
> 30
> minutes,
> (and I haven't even taken time to comment on the two email
> ballots yet,
> though I have a bit to say there), I'm focusing on just
> getting
> this
> task done so I can move on to the next. It is a high
> priority on
> my
> list, and when I finish it, I'll send it.
> To others who have been asking about the rest of my to-do
> list,
> I'm
> doing this project first. In the case of adopted
> resolutions,
> please
> recall that our convention forges ahead and adopts all
> sorts
> of
> things
> from the floor while the Secretary is trying to tally
> election
> results. I suppose I should be flattered that some
> believe
> I can
> document those fully on the fly while I'm simultaneously
> aggregating
> election results, and have completed minutes immediately
> following
> adjournment, but that's a bit overly optimistic. I am a
> human
> who is
> constrained by the laws of time and space. I could only
> make
> sparse
> notes about the nature of other proceedings while I was
> working
> on
> elections, and when I start building the convention
> minutes,
> I'll
> have
> to go back and review the recordings to verify that I
> caught
> all
> the
> relevant details. I have a large envelope of lots of
> things
> that
> were
> submitted in writing, so I'll fish out what was actually
> voted
> on,
> verify that the written submission matches what the
> delegates
> were told
> they were voting on, etc.
> Again, all these items are in the queue, and I'll get to
> them all
> as
> soon as I reasonably can now that I am back at home with
> my
> usual
> workspace, but it is unreasonable to expect it to all
> happen
> instantaneously.
> -Alicia
> References
> 1. mailto:[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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