[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 11:02:50 EDT 2018
Sorry I meant Joe there has been a silencing attempt - not John.
-Caryn Ann
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:59 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> And for the record I would be THRILLED with these 7 on the JC. They are
> very much ideologically aligned with me on issues concerning the Statement
> of Principles and I already indicated I would appeal if the LNC refused to
> remove that anti-Dallas Accord language from the employment manual. This
> is exactly the JC I would want to hear that.
>
> But I am objecting. Why? Because it’s not about who I like or don’t
> like. It’s about what I think is the right thing to do whether it benefits
> me or not.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I would have spoken up sooner but do to a tooth extraction gone bad
>> followed by a hospitalization I have been unable to respond. I sit here
>> with half of my face swollen and still sick fighting for a solution that
>> does not disregard our delegates none the less
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-11 09:42, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>> > I will say once again there was no bad faith but everyone knows it was
>> > a grand show of political theater —- I’ll rule this way —- wink
>> > wink —— and you’ll appeal me.....
>> >
>> > The delegates were led to one outcome.
>> >
>> > Why were they not offered a mail ballot? Or a quick voice or standing
>> > vote to find majorities?
>> >
>> > And how can anyone be said to make an informed choice beforehand not
>> > knowing the ultra slim margin of up to only one vote??
>> >
>> > I submit we had no right to “call” the at large election without
>> > an audit.
>> >
>> > This whole thing is wrong - it isn’t above reproach.
>> >
>> > I was being cowed into just settling. Thank you Erin for speaking up
>> > so that I know I’m not alone here.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree Erin.
>> >>
>> >> And I am getting more rankled that my reasonably pointing out that
>> >> an independent audit is needed led to an attack on my motives
>> >> because I won my race.
>> >>
>> >> I’m not sorry for winning and I won’t be attacked for asking
>> >> reasonable questions.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:24 AM erin.adams--- via Lnc-business
>> >> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true
>> >>> that "
>> >>> There is nothing we can do about it
>> >>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>> >>> years." and
>> >>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some in
>> >>> an
>> >>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
>> >>> folks, if
>> >>> this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you will
>> >>> hate me
>> >>> the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be dismissed and
>> >>>
>> >>> silenced.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>>> Caryn Ann,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections went
>> >>> awry.
>> >>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>> >>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two years.
>> >>> We
>> >>>> will have a fix in place before the
>> >>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
>> >>> delegates and
>> >>>> made effective immediately.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
>> >>> thread
>> >>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
>> >>>> votes on the motion.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ---
>> >>>> Sam Goldstein
>> >>>> Libertarian National Committee
>> >>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>> >>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>> >>> supposed to
>> >>>>> NOT
>> >>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
>> >>> Lnc-business
>> >>>>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the choir
>> >>> becomes
>> >>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
>> >>> that it
>> >>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that will
>> >>> make
>> >>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and
>> >>> fix it
>> >>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's points,
>> >>> and
>> >>>>> yours.
>> >>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it up 5
>> >>> times
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
>> >>> takes
>> >>>>> away
>> >>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party in
>> >>> other
>> >>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us up
>> >>>>> continually
>> >>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS counterproductive.
>> >>> Let's
>> >>>>> move
>> >>>>> on and FIX IT.
>> >>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let this
>> >>> crap
>> >>>>> happen again.
>> >>>>> John Phillips
>> >>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> >>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing to
>> >>> be
>> >>>>> quiet
>> >>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once a
>> >>> week
>> >>>>> until
>> >>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever happening
>> >>> again.
>> >>>>> Respectfully,
>> >>>>> Craig Bowden
>> >>>>> Region 1 Alternate
>> >>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I respectfully decline.
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>> >>>>> <[1][2]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann,
>> >>>>> Just shut up about this already!
>> >>>>> Respectfully,
>> >>>>> ---
>> >>>>> Sam Goldstein
>> >>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>> >>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put something
>> >>>
>> >>>>> together
>> >>>>> to try
>> >>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
>> >>> worst ways
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> solve.
>> >>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates down
>> >>> that
>> >>>>> road
>> >>>>> with
>> >>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in any
>> >>> way that
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it all
>> >>> back to
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> delegates.
>> >>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this situation
>> >>> with the
>> >>>>> JC
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> well
>> >>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>> >>> solving it
>> >>>>> wrong
>> >>>>> both
>> >>>>> ethically and procedurally.
>> >>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
>> >>> come into
>> >>>>> conflict.
>> >>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
>> >>> something
>> >>>>> doesn't
>> >>>>> mean
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first issue
>> >>> is
>> >>>>> sticking
>> >>>>> in my
>> >>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>> >>> change the
>> >>>>> rules of
>> >>>>> an
>> >>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
>> >>> between
>> >>>>> majority
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as it
>> >>> effects
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> way
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
>> >>> pawns, and
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> isn't
>> >>>>> right.
>> >>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up about
>> >>> this
>> >>>>> already.
>> >>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this is
>> >>> one of
>> >>>>> them.
>> >>>>> Just
>> >>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
>> >>> term.
>> >>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an
>> >>> organization is if
>> >>>>> this is
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>> >>> over-the-top
>> >>>>> integrity
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> <[1][2][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>> >>> get the
>> >>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>> >>> hundreds
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> delegates
>> >>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
>> >>> them off
>> >>>>> so
>> >>>>> long.
>> >>>>> In
>> >>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes
>> >>> in the
>> >>>>> At-Large
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
>> >>> those who
>> >>>>> stay and
>> >>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
>> >>> combination of
>> >>>>> voting
>> >>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left
>> >>> us in a
>> >>>>> bad
>> >>>>> place.===
>> >>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now are
>> >>>
>> >>>>> surprised
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>> got
>> >>>>> ran over?
>> >>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led to
>> >>> make a
>> >>>>> decision
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>> >>> Whether or
>> >>>>> not one
>> >>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>> >>> methodology
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> its
>> >>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show approval
>> >>> and we
>> >>>>> turned it
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>> >>> options?
>> >>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>> >>>>> complain.
>> >>>>> As far
>> >>>>> as
>> >>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>> >>> most
>> >>>>> reasonable.
>> >>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>> >>> Party
>> >>>>> members or
>> >>>>> us
>> >>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>> >>> motion -
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>> even
>> >>>>> more
>> >>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>> >>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think my
>> >>> very
>> >>>>> real
>> >>>>> complaint
>> >>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>> >>> direction is
>> >>>>> being
>> >>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>> >>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>> >>>>> legality:
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>> >>> at-large
>> >>>>> candidates
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC. There's
>> >>> also no
>> >>>>> doubt in
>> >>>>> my
>> >>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have done
>> >>> the same
>> >>>>> for the
>> >>>>> JC.
>> >>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>> >>> coerced
>> >>>>> into
>> >>>>> doing
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because that's
>> >>> what
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> wanted
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> do. He just told them how.===
>> >>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
>> >>> people there
>> >>>>> trusted
>> >>>>> us
>> >>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson of
>> >>> the LNC
>> >>>>> and this
>> >>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them what
>> >>> they
>> >>>>> wanted.
>> >>>>> They
>> >>>>> were presented with two choices in which they were
>> >>> led down
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you know
>> >>> exactly
>> >>>>> what I
>> >>>>> am
>> >>>>> getting at here.
>> >>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>> >>> majority
>> >>>>> rising vote
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>> the spot to choose between options they would not
>> >>> have
>> >>>>> taken
>> >>>>> that?
>> >>>>> It
>> >>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
>> >>> other
>> >>>>> options. It
>> >>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am well-versed
>> >>> in this
>> >>>>> stuff.
>> >>>>> It
>> >>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would be
>> >>> all
>> >>>>> lathered up.
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> >>>>> <[2][3][4]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>> >>> get the
>> >>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>> >>> hundreds
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
>> >>> because we
>> >>>>> put
>> >>>>> them
>> >>>>> off
>> >>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
>> >>> didn't cast
>> >>>>> votes in
>> >>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>> >>> elections
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>> won by
>> >>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make it
>> >>> hard.
>> >>>>> The
>> >>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>> >>> method, and
>> >>>>> scheduling
>> >>>>> left us in a bad place.
>> >>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>> >>>>> complain.
>> >>>>> As far
>> >>>>> as
>> >>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>> >>> most
>> >>>>> reasonable.
>> >>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>> >>> Party
>> >>>>> members
>> >>>>> or
>> >>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>> >>> motion
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>> even
>> >>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>> >>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
>> >>> that every
>> >>>>> JC
>> >>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should sit
>> >>> empty
>> >>>>> until
>> >>>>> 2022.
>> >>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>> >>>>> legality:
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>> >>> at-large
>> >>>>> candidates
>> >>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>> >>> There's
>> >>>>> also
>> >>>>> no
>> >>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
>> >>> would have
>> >>>>> done the
>> >>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>> >>> Libertarians
>> >>>>> were
>> >>>>> not
>> >>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what Nick
>> >>>
>> >>>>> suggested
>> >>>>> because
>> >>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told them
>> >>> how.
>> >>>>> They
>> >>>>> didn't
>> >>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
>> >>> seats if
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> were
>> >>>>> left vacant.
>> >>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want
>> >>> to write
>> >>>>> this to
>> >>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>> >>> sweeping
>> >>>>> anything
>> >>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we
>> >>> do
>> >>>>> elections
>> >>>>> will
>> >>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
>> >>>>> JBH
>> >>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> >>> Lnc-business
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
>> >>> there is
>> >>>>> no
>> >>>>> way
>> >>>>> around
>> >>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
>> >>> over.
>> >>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper level
>> >>> of
>> >>>>> improper. I
>> >>>>> object to
>> >>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the
>> >>>
>> >>>>> delegates
>> >>>>> made an
>> >>>>> independent choice and now to just infer this
>> >>> upon
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> is two
>> >>>>> bridges
>> >>>>> too far.
>> >>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
>> >>> sweeping
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> under
>> >>>>> the rug.
>> >>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole
>> >>>>> situation
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> being
>> >>>>> taken.
>> >>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
>> >>> nothing
>> >>>>> different
>> >>>>> than
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> government we wish to reform.
>> >>>>> There was a controversial election and at least
>> >>> one
>> >>>>> state
>> >>>>> chair
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by
>> >>> state
>> >>>>> rallies
>> >>>>> with
>> >>>>> no
>> >>>>> time
>> >>>>> frame given him.
>> >>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
>> >>> expecting an
>> >>>>> entirely
>> >>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not be
>> >>> sanguine
>> >>>>> about
>> >>>>> it.
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
>> >>>>> <[1][3][4][5]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> This point did come up immediately after
>> >>>>> adjournment,
>> >>>>> while
>> >>>>> Nick
>> >>>>> was
>> >>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought
>> >>> it up,
>> >>>>> but
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> statement
>> >>>>> was made that it would follow the same
>> >>> procedure as
>> >>>>> At-Large
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>> >>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>> >>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>> >>>>> Region 7 Representative
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>> >>> Harlos via
>> >>>>> Lnc-business
>> >>>>> <[2][4][5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice on
>> >>> this.
>> >>>>> The
>> >>>>> JC
>> >>>>> never
>> >>>>> came
>> >>>>> up.
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>> >>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were
>> >>> given
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> choice
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> convention
>> >>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
>> >>> should
>> >>>>> respect
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> decision.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Joshua D. Smith
>> >>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> >>>>> Lnc-business
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
>> >>> are
>> >>>>> due
>> >>>>> to the
>> >>>>> LNC-Business
>> >>>>>> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
>> >>> Pacific
>> >>>>> time.
>> >>>>> Co-Sponsors:
>> >>>>>> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
>> >>> Merced,
>> >>>>> Van
>> >>>>> Horn
>> >>>>> Motion:
>> >>>>> Move
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>>> the Libertarian National Committee
>> >>>>> acknowledge
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> election of
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>> following to the Judicial Committee
>> >>> for a
>> >>>>> four-year
>> >>>>> term:
>> >>>>> D.
>> >>>>> Frank
>> >>>>>> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
>> >>> Perry, Ruth
>> >>>>> Bennett,
>> >>>>> Geoff
>> >>>>> Neale,
>> >>>>>> Jim
>> >>>>>> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can
>> >>> keep
>> >>>>> track
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> Secretary's
>> >>>>>> manual tally of votes here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>> [1][2][4][6][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>>> Region 1 Representative,
>> >>> Libertarian
>> >>>>> National
>> >>>>> Committee
>> >>>>> (Alaska,
>> >>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
>> >>> Kansas,
>> >>>>> Montana,
>> >>>>> Utah,
>> >>>>> Wyoming,
>> >>>>>> Washington)
>> >>>>>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>>> Communications Director,
>> >>> [3]Libertarian
>> >>>>> Party of
>> >>>>> Colorado
>> >>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>> >>>
>> >>>>> Committee
>> >>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
>> >>> Principles:
>> >>>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> References
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1.
>> >>> [3][5][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.co
>> >>>>> m/lncvoting
>> >>>>>> 2.
>> >>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>>> 3.
>> >>> [5][6][8][9][10]http://www.lpcolor
>> >>>>> ado.org/ [1]
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>> >>> National
>> >>>>> Committee
>> >>>>> Secretary
>> >>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> >>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>> >>> Committee -
>> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>> References
>> >>>>> 1.
>> >>> mailto:[7][9][10][11]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 2.
>> >>> [8][10][11][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 3.
>> >>> [9][11][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 5.
>> >>> [11][12][13][14]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> >>> Committee
>> >>>>> Secretary
>> >>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> >>> Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>> References
>> >>>>> 1. mailto:[13][14][15]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 2. mailto:[14][15][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 4. [16][17][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 5. [17][18][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 6. [18][19][20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 8. [20][21][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 9. [21][22][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 11. [23][23][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> JBH
>> >>>>> ------------
>> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> >>>>> [26][24][25]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>> [27][25][26]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [2]
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> >>> Committee
>> >>>>> Secretary
>> >>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> >>> Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> >>> Committee
>> >>>>> Secretary
>> >>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> >>> Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>> References
>> >>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 6. [31][32]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 7. [32][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 8. [33][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 10. [35][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 11. [36][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 12. [37][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 16. [41][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 17. [42][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 18. [43][44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 20. [45][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 21. [46][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 23. [48][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 27.
>> >>> [52][50]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> >>> Secretary
>> >>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >>> LPedia at LP.org
>> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>> References
>> >>>>> 1. mailto:[51]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> >>>>> 2. mailto:[52]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 3. mailto:[53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 4. mailto:[54]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 5. mailto:[55]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 6. mailto:[56]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 7. [57]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 8. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 9. [59]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 10. mailto:[60]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 11. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 12. [62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 13. [63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 14. mailto:[64]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 15. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 16. mailto:[66]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 17. [67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 18. [68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 19. [69]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 20. mailto:[70]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 21. [71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 22. [72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 23. [73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 24. mailto:[74]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 25. [75]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 26. mailto:[76]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 27. mailto:[77]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 28. mailto:[78]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 29. mailto:[79]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 30. mailto:[80]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 31. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 32. [82]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 33. [83]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 34. mailto:[84]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 35. [85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 36. [86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 37. [87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 38. mailto:[88]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 39. mailto:[89]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 40. mailto:[90]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 41. [91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 42. [92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 43. [93]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 44. mailto:[94]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 45. [95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 46. [96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 48. [98]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 51. mailto:[101]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 52. [102]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> >>> Secretary
>> >>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >>>>> We defend your rights
>> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
>> >>>>> Taxation is theft
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> References
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 2. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> >>>>> 3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 4. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 5. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 11. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 14. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 15. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 17. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 21. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 22. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 24. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 25. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 26. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 27. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 28. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 29. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 31. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 32. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 35. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 38. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 39. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 41. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 43. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 45. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 46. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 48. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 49. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 50. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 51. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> >>>>> 52. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 53. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 54. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 55. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 56. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 57. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 59. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 60. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 63. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 64. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 65. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 66. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 67. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 69. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 70. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 73. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 74. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 75. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 76. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >>>>> 77. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 78. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 79. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 80. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 81. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 82. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 83. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 84. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 85. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 86. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 87. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 88. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >>>>> 89. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >>>>> 90. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 92. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 93. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 94. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >>>>> 95. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 96. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>>>> 97. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 98. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>>>> 99. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 100. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 101. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>>>> 102. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>>>> 103. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 104. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 105. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>>>> 106. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> IN LIBERTY,
>> >> CARYN ANN HARLOS
>> >>
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> >> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >>
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> >>
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> _We defend your rights_
>> >> _And oppose the use of force_
>> >> _Taxation is theft_
>> > --
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > IN LIBERTY,
>> > CARYN ANN HARLOS
>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> >
>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > _We defend your rights_
>> > _And oppose the use of force_
>> > _Taxation is theft_
>> >
>> > Links:
>> > ------
>> > [1] http://ado.org/
>> > [2] http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>
>> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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Sorry I meant Joe there has been a silencing attempt - not John.
-Caryn Ann
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:59 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
And for the record I would be THRILLED with these 7 on the JC. They
are very much ideologically aligned with me on issues concerning the
Statement of Principles and I already indicated I would appeal if the
LNC refused to remove that anti-Dallas Accord language from the
employment manual. This is exactly the JC I would want to hear that.
But I am objecting. Why? Because it’s not about who I like or don’t
like. It’s about what I think is the right thing to do whether it
benefits me or not.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM <[2]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
I would have spoken up sooner but do to a tooth extraction gone bad
followed by a hospitalization I have been unable to respond. I sit
here
with half of my face swollen and still sick fighting for a solution
that
does not disregard our delegates none the less
On 2018-07-11 09:42, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> I will say once again there was no bad faith but everyone knows it
was
> a grand show of political theater —- I’ll rule this way —- wink
> wink —— and you’ll appeal me.....
>
> The delegates were led to one outcome.
>
> Why were they not offered a mail ballot? Or a quick voice or
standing
> vote to find majorities?
>
> And how can anyone be said to make an informed choice beforehand
not
> knowing the ultra slim margin of up to only one vote??
>
> I submit we had no right to “call” the at large election without
> an audit.
>
> This whole thing is wrong - it isn’t above reproach.
>
> I was being cowed into just settling. Thank you Erin for speaking
up
> so that I know I’m not alone here.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I agree Erin.
>>
>> And I am getting more rankled that my reasonably pointing out
that
>> an independent audit is needed led to an attack on my motives
>> because I won my race.
>>
>> I’m not sorry for winning and I won’t be attacked for asking
>> reasonable questions.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:24 AM erin.adams--- via Lnc-business
>> <[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true
>>> that "
>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>>> years." and
>>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some in
>>> an
>>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
>>> folks, if
>>> this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you will
>>> hate me
>>> the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be dismissed
and
>>>
>>> silenced.
>>>
>>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>
>>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections went
>>> awry.
>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
years.
>>> We
>>>> will have a fix in place before the
>>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
>>> delegates and
>>>> made effective immediately.
>>>>
>>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
>>> thread
>>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
>>>> votes on the motion.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>>> supposed to
>>>>> NOT
>>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> <[1][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the choir
>>> becomes
>>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
>>> that it
>>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that will
>>> make
>>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and
>>> fix it
>>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's points,
>>> and
>>>>> yours.
>>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it up 5
>>> times
>>>>> a
>>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
>>> takes
>>>>> away
>>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party in
>>> other
>>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us up
>>>>> continually
>>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS counterproductive.
>>> Let's
>>>>> move
>>>>> on and FIX IT.
>>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let this
>>> crap
>>>>> happen again.
>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing to
>>> be
>>>>> quiet
>>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once a
>>> week
>>>>> until
>>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever happening
>>> again.
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Craig Bowden
>>>>> Region 1 Alternate
>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I respectfully decline.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>>>>> <[1][2][6]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>> Just shut up about this already!
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>> wrote:
>>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put something
>>>
>>>>> together
>>>>> to try
>>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
>>> worst ways
>>>>> to
>>>>> solve.
>>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates down
>>> that
>>>>> road
>>>>> with
>>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in any
>>> way that
>>>>> we
>>>>> would
>>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it all
>>> back to
>>>>> the
>>>>> delegates.
>>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this situation
>>> with the
>>>>> JC
>>>>> -
>>>>> well
>>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>>> solving it
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> both
>>>>> ethically and procedurally.
>>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
>>> come into
>>>>> conflict.
>>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
>>> something
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> mean
>>>>> it
>>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first issue
>>> is
>>>>> sticking
>>>>> in my
>>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>>> change the
>>>>> rules of
>>>>> an
>>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
>>> between
>>>>> majority
>>>>> and
>>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as it
>>> effects
>>>>> the
>>>>> way
>>>>> they
>>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
>>> pawns, and
>>>>> it
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> right.
>>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up about
>>> this
>>>>> already.
>>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this is
>>> one of
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Just
>>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
>>> term.
>>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an
>>> organization is if
>>>>> this is
>>>>> a
>>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>>> over-the-top
>>>>> integrity
>>>>> to
>>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> <[1][2][3][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>>> get the
>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>> hundreds
>>>>> of
>>>>> delegates
>>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
>>> them off
>>>>> so
>>>>> long.
>>>>> In
>>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes
>>> in the
>>>>> At-Large
>>>>> and
>>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
>>> those who
>>>>> stay and
>>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
>>> combination of
>>>>> voting
>>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left
>>> us in a
>>>>> bad
>>>>> place.===
>>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now are
>>>
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> we
>>>>> got
>>>>> ran over?
>>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led to
>>> make a
>>>>> decision
>>>>> in
>>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>>> Whether or
>>>>> not one
>>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>>> methodology
>>>>> and
>>>>> its
>>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show approval
>>> and we
>>>>> turned it
>>>>> on
>>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>>> options?
>>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>>>>> complain.
>>>>> As far
>>>>> as
>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>> most
>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>>> Party
>>>>> members or
>>>>> us
>>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>> motion -
>>>>> are
>>>>> even
>>>>> more
>>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think my
>>> very
>>>>> real
>>>>> complaint
>>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>>> direction is
>>>>> being
>>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>>>>> legality:
>>>>> the
>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>> at-large
>>>>> candidates
>>>>> and
>>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC. There's
>>> also no
>>>>> doubt in
>>>>> my
>>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have done
>>> the same
>>>>> for the
>>>>> JC.
>>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>>> coerced
>>>>> into
>>>>> doing
>>>>> that
>>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because that's
>>> what
>>>>> they
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> do. He just told them how.===
>>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
>>> people there
>>>>> trusted
>>>>> us
>>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson of
>>> the LNC
>>>>> and this
>>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them what
>>> they
>>>>> wanted.
>>>>> They
>>>>> were presented with two choices in which they were
>>> led down
>>>>> a
>>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you know
>>> exactly
>>>>> what I
>>>>> am
>>>>> getting at here.
>>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>>> majority
>>>>> rising vote
>>>>> on
>>>>> the spot to choose between options they would not
>>> have
>>>>> taken
>>>>> that?
>>>>> It
>>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
>>> other
>>>>> options. It
>>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am well-versed
>>> in this
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> It
>>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would be
>>> all
>>>>> lathered up.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>> <[2][3][4][8]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>>> get the
>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>> hundreds
>>>>> of
>>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
>>> because we
>>>>> put
>>>>> them
>>>>> off
>>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
>>> didn't cast
>>>>> votes in
>>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>>> elections
>>>>> are
>>>>> won by
>>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make it
>>> hard.
>>>>> The
>>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>>> method, and
>>>>> scheduling
>>>>> left us in a bad place.
>>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>>>>> complain.
>>>>> As far
>>>>> as
>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>> most
>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>>> Party
>>>>> members
>>>>> or
>>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>> motion
>>>>> -
>>>>> are
>>>>> even
>>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
>>> that every
>>>>> JC
>>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should sit
>>> empty
>>>>> until
>>>>> 2022.
>>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>>>>> legality:
>>>>> the
>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>> at-large
>>>>> candidates
>>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>>> There's
>>>>> also
>>>>> no
>>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
>>> would have
>>>>> done the
>>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>>> Libertarians
>>>>> were
>>>>> not
>>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what Nick
>>>
>>>>> suggested
>>>>> because
>>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told them
>>> how.
>>>>> They
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
>>> seats if
>>>>> they
>>>>> were
>>>>> left vacant.
>>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want
>>> to write
>>>>> this to
>>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>>> sweeping
>>>>> anything
>>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we
>>> do
>>>>> elections
>>>>> will
>>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
>>>>> JBH
>>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
>>> there is
>>>>> no
>>>>> way
>>>>> around
>>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
>>> over.
>>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper level
>>> of
>>>>> improper. I
>>>>> object to
>>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the
>>>
>>>>> delegates
>>>>> made an
>>>>> independent choice and now to just infer this
>>> upon
>>>>> that
>>>>> is two
>>>>> bridges
>>>>> too far.
>>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
>>> sweeping
>>>>> it
>>>>> under
>>>>> the rug.
>>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole
>>>>> situation
>>>>> is
>>>>> being
>>>>> taken.
>>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
>>> nothing
>>>>> different
>>>>> than
>>>>> the
>>>>> government we wish to reform.
>>>>> There was a controversial election and at least
>>> one
>>>>> state
>>>>> chair
>>>>> and
>>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by
>>> state
>>>>> rallies
>>>>> with
>>>>> no
>>>>> time
>>>>> frame given him.
>>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
>>> expecting an
>>>>> entirely
>>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not be
>>> sanguine
>>>>> about
>>>>> it.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>> <[1][3][4][5][9]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> This point did come up immediately after
>>>>> adjournment,
>>>>> while
>>>>> Nick
>>>>> was
>>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought
>>> it up,
>>>>> but
>>>>> the
>>>>> statement
>>>>> was made that it would follow the same
>>> procedure as
>>>>> At-Large
>>>>> at
>>>>> that
>>>>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>> Region 7 Representative
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>>> Harlos via
>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> <[2][4][5][6][10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice on
>>> this.
>>>>> The
>>>>> JC
>>>>> never
>>>>> came
>>>>> up.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7][11]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were
>>> given
>>>>> the
>>>>> choice
>>>>> at
>>>>> convention
>>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
>>> should
>>>>> respect
>>>>> that
>>>>> decision.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Joshua D. Smith
>>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
>>> are
>>>>> due
>>>>> to the
>>>>> LNC-Business
>>>>>> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
>>> Pacific
>>>>> time.
>>>>> Co-Sponsors:
>>>>>> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
>>> Merced,
>>>>> Van
>>>>> Horn
>>>>> Motion:
>>>>> Move
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> acknowledge
>>>>> the
>>>>> election of
>>>>> the
>>>>>> following to the Judicial Committee
>>> for a
>>>>> four-year
>>>>> term:
>>>>> D.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
>>> Perry, Ruth
>>>>> Bennett,
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> Neale,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can
>>> keep
>>>>> track
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Secretary's
>>>>>> manual tally of votes here:
>>>>>
>>> [1][2][4][6][7][8][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative,
>>> Libertarian
>>>>> National
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
>>> Kansas,
>>>>> Montana,
>>>>> Utah,
>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director,
>>> [3]Libertarian
>>>>> Party of
>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
>>> Principles:
>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>
>>>>>> References
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.
>>> [3][5][7][8][9][13]https://tinyurl.co
>>>>> m/lncvoting
>>>>>> 2.
>>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> 3.
>>> [5][6][8][9][10][14]http://www.lpcolor
>>>>> [15]ado.org/ [1]
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>>> National
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>> Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1.
>>> mailto:[7][9][10][11][16]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 2.
>>> [8][10][11][12][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 3.
>>> [9][11][12][13][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 5.
>>> [11][12][13][14][19]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1. mailto:[13][14][15][20]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[14][15][16][21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17][22]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 4. [16][17][18][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 5. [17][18][19][24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 6. [18][19][20][25]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21][26]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 8. [20][21][22][27]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 9. [21][22][23][28]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 11. [23][23][24][29]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> JBH
>>>>> ------------
>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>> [26][24][25][30]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>
>>> [27][25][26][31]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [2]
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27][32]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28][33]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29][34]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30][35]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31][36]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 6. [31][32][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 7. [32][33][38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 8. [33][34][39]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35][40]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 10. [35][36][41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 11. [36][37][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 12. [37][38][43]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39][44]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40][45]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41][46]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 16. [41][42][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 17. [42][43][48]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 18. [43][44][49]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45][50]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 20. [45][46][51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 21. [46][47][52]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 23. [48][48][53]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49][54]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 27.
>>> [52][50][55]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1. mailto:[51][56]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[52][57]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[53][58]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 4. mailto:[54][59]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 5. mailto:[55][60]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 6. mailto:[56][61]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 7. [57][62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 8. [58][63]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 9. [59][64]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 10. mailto:[60][65]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 11. [61][66]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 12. [62][67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 13. [63][68]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 14. mailto:[64][69]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 15. mailto:[65][70]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 16. mailto:[66][71]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 17. [67][72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 18. [68][73]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 19. [69][74]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 20. mailto:[70][75]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 21. [71][76]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 22. [72][77]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 23. [73][78]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 24. mailto:[74][79]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 25. [75][80]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 26. mailto:[76][81]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 27. mailto:[77][82]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 28. mailto:[78][83]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 29. mailto:[79][84]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 30. mailto:[80][85]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 31. [81][86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 32. [82][87]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 33. [83][88]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 34. mailto:[84][89]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 35. [85][90]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 36. [86][91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 37. [87][92]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 38. mailto:[88][93]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 39. mailto:[89][94]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 40. mailto:[90][95]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 41. [91][96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 42. [92][97]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 43. [93][98]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 44. mailto:[94][99]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 45. [95][100]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 46. [96][101]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 48. [98][102]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 51. mailto:[101][103]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 52. [102][104]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> References
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. mailto:[105]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[106]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[107]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 4. mailto:[108]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 5. mailto:[109]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 6. mailto:[110]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 7. mailto:[111]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 8. [112]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 9. [113]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 10. [114]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 11. mailto:[115]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 12. [116]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 13. [117]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 14. [118]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 15. mailto:[119]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 16. mailto:[120]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 17. mailto:[121]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 18. [122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 19. [123]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 20. [124]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 21. mailto:[125]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 22. [126]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 23. [127]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 24. [128]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 25. mailto:[129]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 26. [130]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 27. mailto:[131]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 28. mailto:[132]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 29. mailto:[133]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 30. mailto:[134]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 31. mailto:[135]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 32. [136]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 33. [137]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 34. [138]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 35. mailto:[139]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 36. [140]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 37. [141]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 38. [142]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 39. mailto:[143]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 40. mailto:[144]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 41. mailto:[145]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 42. [146]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 43. [147]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 44. [148]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 45. mailto:[149]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 46. [150]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 47. [151]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 48. [152]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 49. mailto:[153]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 50. [154]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 51. mailto:[155]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>> 52. mailto:[156]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 53. mailto:[157]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 54. mailto:[158]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 55. mailto:[159]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 56. mailto:[160]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 57. [161]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 58. [162]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 59. [163]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 60. mailto:[164]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 61. [165]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 62. [166]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 63. [167]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 64. mailto:[168]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 65. mailto:[169]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 66. mailto:[170]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 67. [171]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 68. [172]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 69. [173]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 70. mailto:[174]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 71. [175]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 72. [176]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 73. [177]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 74. mailto:[178]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 75. [179]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 76. mailto:[180]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 77. mailto:[181]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 78. mailto:[182]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 79. mailto:[183]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 80. mailto:[184]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 81. [185]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 82. [186]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 83. [187]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 84. mailto:[188]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 85. [189]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 86. [190]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 87. [191]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 88. mailto:[192]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 89. mailto:[193]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 90. mailto:[194]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 91. [195]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 92. [196]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 93. [197]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 94. mailto:[198]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 95. [199]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 96. [200]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 97. mailto:[201]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 98. [202]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 99. mailto:[203]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 100. mailto:[204]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 101. mailto:[205]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 102. [206]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 103. mailto:[207]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 104. mailto:[208]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 105. mailto:[209]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 106. mailto:[210]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>>
>> IN LIBERTY,
>> CARYN ANN HARLOS
>>
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> _We defend your rights_
>> _And oppose the use of force_
>> _Taxation is theft_
> --
>
> --
>
> IN LIBERTY,
> CARYN ANN HARLOS
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> _We defend your rights_
> _And oppose the use of force_
> _Taxation is theft_
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] [211]http://ado.org/
> [2] [212]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [213]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [214]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
2. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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201. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
202. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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206. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
207. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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212. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
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214. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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