[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
erin.adams at lp.org
erin.adams at lp.org
Thu Jul 12 21:49:02 EDT 2018
Say whatever youd like, It wont change a damn thing. If I was cool with
being ordered around, Id likely be a member of the duopoly, Im not.Im
fairly certain anyone who knows me will tell you that Im picky about who
I let tell me what to do, you dont qualify.
On 2018-07-11 19:09, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
> Nonsense. In your mind, but not mine. My intent matters.
>
> Believe me, I have no problem stating my mind. IF I want to say, "move
> on", I'll bloody well write that.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
>
> On 2018-07-11 20:02, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>> Elizabeth,
>> The implication is the same. Regardless, you and I will disagree on
>> this, Thats fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-11 18:50, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>> Erin, I never told you to more on. Nor, did I "insist", that you do.
>>> What are you talking about? I suggested this:
>>>
>>> "If you have a complaint about a specific person, perhaps you could
>>> take it to them off list, but to accuse wholesale those who have
>>> discussed this issue, of "others" trying to silence people makes no
>>> sense."
>>>
>>> Please go back and reread what I wrote. I don't appreciate you
>>> making
>>> up stuff that I never wrote. Sheesh, it's all right here in writing.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-07-11 19:43, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>>>> I am glad we can agree on something. Just as you will continue to
>>>> hold
>>>> your beliefs and stance, I will do the same. The difference being
>>>> that
>>>> I am not telling you to move on even tho you insist that I do. I am
>>>> happy we have found agreement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-11 18:38, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>>>> No one is "diminishing" your stance. I also stated my opinion.
>>>>> Nor,
>>>>> am I not going to be silent when I see unwarranted accusations
>>>>> being
>>>>> tossed around on this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that's my opinion. Also, the accusations that Caryn Ann has
>>>>> made
>>>>> about people being "silenced' is unwarranted. (Nor, am I the only
>>>>> to
>>>>> think this.)
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have to agree, but neither do I have to be silent on
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-07-11 19:25, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>>>>>> Elizabeth,
>>>>>> It is an overall "feeling", Im clearly not the only person
>>>>>> "feeling"
>>>>>> this, you dont have to agree, you dont have to acknowledge my
>>>>>> stance
>>>>>> nor my feeling, you dont get to diminish my stance either. It is
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> OPINION that there is a push to silence, like it or not, that IS
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> belief. I dont need to justify that, it simply is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 13:42, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>>>>>> Erin, what others? I haven't seen anyone on this list try to
>>>>>>> silence
>>>>>>> others. Most people have discussed, I added the type of feedback
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> getting in region 3, and what options they're wanting. Others
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> done the same. If anything there's been pressure put on those
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> want to move-on, by saying that people will bring up the topic
>>>>>>> constantly, and if a "yes" vote happens, that person immediately
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> gone after to change their vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have voted yet, as I'm still getting opinions from my region,
>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>> can say that no one has shown an interest in rehashing the
>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>> vote. For the JC, more seem inclined to just *not* have a JC,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> have the body elect a new JC in 2020. (Some others wish to have
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> accept the top-seven vote-getters of the JC)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have a complaint about a specific person, perhaps you
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> take it to them off list, but to accuse wholesale those who have
>>>>>>> discussed this issue, of "others" trying to silence people makes
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 10:50, erin.adams--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mr. Bishop-Henchman,
>>>>>>>> YOU may not be but others CERTAINLY are. The tone of many seems
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> Shut up and get over it. Let me be clear that I have NO
>>>>>>>> intention of
>>>>>>>> doing that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 09:40, Joe Bishop-Henchman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ms. Adams,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By my count we have sent 400 emails to each other in a week.
>>>>>>>>> Ms.
>>>>>>>>> Harlos has sent 18 emails in the last twelve hours, more than
>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>> sent in total in a week. People may gripe about it but no one
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> actually being silenced.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm doing my best to respond to points being made, answering
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> and respectfully if energetically countering arguments. Your
>>>>>>>>> response
>>>>>>>>> to me was that the proposal I've sponsored is "bullshit,"
>>>>>>>>> "unacceptable," "gross," "vile," and "sickening." You then
>>>>>>>>> complained
>>>>>>>>> about the tone of the debate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to have a good working relationship with all of
>>>>>>>>> you. On
>>>>>>>>> Bylaws, if I was on the winning side of votes I made sure the
>>>>>>>>> minority
>>>>>>>>> got a fair shake at presenting their views. If I was on the
>>>>>>>>> losing
>>>>>>>>> side, I accepted it and did my best to make sure that what we
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> passed worked. And I never resorted to name-calling or
>>>>>>>>> martyrdom. The
>>>>>>>>> enemy isn't on this Committee. The enemy are the people out
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> passing warrantless wiretapping, locking refugee kids up in
>>>>>>>>> cages,
>>>>>>>>> bombing the world, and spending us into oblivion. I promise I
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> keep sight of that and will greatly respect all of you who do
>>>>>>>>> also,
>>>>>>>>> even if we occasionally disagree on how we will do it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 10:24, erin.adams--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not
>>>>>>>>>> true that "
>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>>>>>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>>>>>>>>>> years." and
>>>>>>>>>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some
>>>>>>>>>> in an
>>>>>>>>>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
>>>>>>>>>> folks,
>>>>>>>>>> if this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> hate me the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be
>>>>>>>>>> dismissed
>>>>>>>>>> and silenced.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections
>>>>>>>>>>> went awry.
>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>>>>>>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>>>>>>>>>>> years. We
>>>>>>>>>>> will have a fix in place before the
>>>>>>>>>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
>>>>>>>>>>> delegates and
>>>>>>>>>>> made effective immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
>>>>>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>>>>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
>>>>>>>>>>> votes on the motion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to NOT
>>>>>>>>>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> choir becomes
>>>>>>>>>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it
>>>>>>>>>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that
>>>>>>>>>>>> will make
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix it
>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's
>>>>>>>>>>>> points, and yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it
>>>>>>>>>>>> up 5 times a
>>>>>>>>>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
>>>>>>>>>>>> takes away
>>>>>>>>>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party
>>>>>>>>>>>> in other
>>>>>>>>>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us
>>>>>>>>>>>> up continually
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS
>>>>>>>>>>>> counterproductive. Let's move
>>>>>>>>>>>> on and FIX IT.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let
>>>>>>>>>>>> this crap
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once
>>>>>>>>>>>> a week until
>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever
>>>>>>>>>>>> happening again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Craig Bowden
>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Alternate
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I respectfully decline.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][2]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just shut up about this already!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put
>>>>>>>>>>>> something together
>>>>>>>>>>>> to try
>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> worst ways to
>>>>>>>>>>>> solve.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>> down that road
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in
>>>>>>>>>>>> any way that we
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it
>>>>>>>>>>>> all back to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this
>>>>>>>>>>>> situation with the JC
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>>>>>>>>>>>> solving it
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>> ethically and procedurally.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
>>>>>>>>>>>> come into
>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
>>>>>>>>>>>> something doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue is sticking
>>>>>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>>>>>>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>>>>>>> rules of
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
>>>>>>>>>>>> between majority
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as
>>>>>>>>>>>> it effects the
>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
>>>>>>>>>>>> pawns, and it
>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up
>>>>>>>>>>>> about this
>>>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is one of
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>>>>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
>>>>>>>>>>>> term.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an
>>>>>>>>>>>> organization is if
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>>>>>>>>>>>> over-the-top
>>>>>>>>>>>> integrity
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][2][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately
>>>>>>>>>>>> do get the
>>>>>>>>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
>>>>>>>>>>>> them off so
>>>>>>>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast
>>>>>>>>>>>> votes in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
>>>>>>>>>>>> those who
>>>>>>>>>>>> stay and
>>>>>>>>>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of
>>>>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling
>>>>>>>>>>>> left us in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>> place.===
>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now
>>>>>>>>>>>> are surprised
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>> ran over?
>>>>>>>>>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led
>>>>>>>>>>>> to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>> decision
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether or
>>>>>>>>>>>> not one
>>>>>>>>>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> methodology and
>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show
>>>>>>>>>>>> approval and we
>>>>>>>>>>>> turned it
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>>>>>>>>>>>> options?
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry
>>>>>>>>>>>> and complain.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of
>>>>>>>>>>>> all Party
>>>>>>>>>>>> members or
>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>>>>>>>>>>> motion - are
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think
>>>>>>>>>>>> my very real
>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint
>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>>>>>>>>>>>> direction is
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread
>>>>>>>>>>>> of legality:
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>>>>>>>>>>> at-large
>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also no
>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt in
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> done the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> JC.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>>>>>>>>>>>> coerced into
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's what they
>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> do. He just told them how.===
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> people there
>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the LNC
>>>>>>>>>>>> and this
>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them
>>>>>>>>>>>> what they
>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>> were presented with two choices in which they
>>>>>>>>>>>> were led down a
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you
>>>>>>>>>>>> know exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting at here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>>>>>>>>>>>> majority
>>>>>>>>>>>> rising vote
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the spot to choose between options they would not
>>>>>>>>>>>> have taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>> options. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> well-versed in this
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be all
>>>>>>>>>>>> lathered up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[2][3][4]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately
>>>>>>>>>>>> do get the
>>>>>>>>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find
>>>>>>>>>>>> that hundreds of
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
>>>>>>>>>>>> because we put
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't cast
>>>>>>>>>>>> votes in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>>>>>>>>>>>> elections are
>>>>>>>>>>>> won by
>>>>>>>>>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make
>>>>>>>>>>>> it hard. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>>>>>>>>>>>> method, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduling
>>>>>>>>>>>> left us in a bad place.
>>>>>>>>>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry
>>>>>>>>>>>> and complain.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the most
>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of
>>>>>>>>>>>> all Party
>>>>>>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs
>>>>>>>>>>>> in motion -
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
>>>>>>>>>>>> that every JC
>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should
>>>>>>>>>>>> sit empty until
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2022.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread
>>>>>>>>>>>> of legality:
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>>>>>>>>>>> at-large
>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
>>>>>>>>>>>> would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> done the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarians were
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told
>>>>>>>>>>>> them how. They
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
>>>>>>>>>>>> seats if they
>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>> left vacant.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to write
>>>>>>>>>>>> this to
>>>>>>>>>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>>>>>>>>>>>> sweeping
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how
>>>>>>>>>>>> we do
>>>>>>>>>>>> elections
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
>>>>>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
>>>>>>>>>>>> over.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper
>>>>>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>>>>>> improper. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> object to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>> the delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>> made an
>>>>>>>>>>>> independent choice and now to just infer
>>>>>>>>>>>> this upon that
>>>>>>>>>>>> is two
>>>>>>>>>>>> bridges
>>>>>>>>>>>> too far.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
>>>>>>>>>>>> sweeping it
>>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>> the rug.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole situation
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> taken.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> government we wish to reform.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There was a controversial election and at
>>>>>>>>>>>> least one state
>>>>>>>>>>>> chair
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by
>>>>>>>>>>>> state rallies
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> frame given him.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
>>>>>>>>>>>> expecting an
>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not
>>>>>>>>>>>> be sanguine
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bilyeu
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][3][4][5]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> This point did come up immediately after
>>>>>>>>>>>> adjournment,
>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who
>>>>>>>>>>>> brought it up, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>>>>>> was made that it would follow the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure as
>>>>>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 7 Representative
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[2][4][5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice
>>>>>>>>>>>> on this. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> JC
>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>> were given the
>>>>>>>>>>>> choice
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua D. Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Votes are due
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC-Business
>>>>>>>>>>>> > list by July 14, 2018 at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:59:59pm Pacific
>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Sponsors:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Merced, Van
>>>>>>>>>>>> Horn
>>>>>>>>>>>> Motion:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Move
>>>>>>>>>>>> > that
>>>>>>>>>>>> > the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> election of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> > following to the Judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> four-year
>>>>>>>>>>>> term:
>>>>>>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perry, Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bennett,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neale,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You
>>>>>>>>>>>> can keep track
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary's
>>>>>>>>>>>> > manual tally of votes here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1][2][4][6][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Region 1 Representative,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kansas, Montana,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Utah,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Washington)
>>>>>>>>>>>> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Communications Director,
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>> Party of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Chair, LP Historical
>>>>>>>>>>>> Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> > A haiku to the Statement of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> > And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > References
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3][5][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.co
>>>>>>>>>>>> m/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [5][6][8][9][10]http://www.lpcolor
>>>>>>>>>>>> ado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[7][9][10][11]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [8][10][11][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [9][11][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11][12][13][14]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[13][14][15]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[14][15][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [16][17][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [17][18][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. [18][19][20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [20][21][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [21][22][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. [23][23][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [26][24][25]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [27][25][26]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. [31][32]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. [32][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. [33][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. [35][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. [36][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. [37][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16. [41][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. [42][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 18. [43][44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. [45][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 21. [46][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 23. [48][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 27.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [52][50]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[51]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[52]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[54]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[55]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:[56]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. [57]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. [59]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[60]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. [62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. [63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[64]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16. mailto:[66]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. [67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 18. [68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. [69]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. mailto:[70]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 21. [71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 22. [72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 23. [73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[74]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [75]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[76]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 27. mailto:[77]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:[78]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[79]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 30. mailto:[80]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 31. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32. [82]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 33. [83]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 34. mailto:[84]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 35. [85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 36. [86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 37. [87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 38. mailto:[88]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 39. mailto:[89]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 40. mailto:[90]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 41. [91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 42. [92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 43. [93]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 44. mailto:[94]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 45. [95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 46. [96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 48. [98]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 51. mailto:[101]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 52.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [102]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 14. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 21. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 22. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 24. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 25. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 26. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 27. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 31. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 35. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 38. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 39. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 41. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 43. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 45. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 46. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 48. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 49. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 50. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 51. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 52. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 53. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 54. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 55. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 56. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 57. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 59. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 60. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 63. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 64. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 65. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 66. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 67. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 69. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 70. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 73. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 74. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 75. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 76. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 77. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 78. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 79. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 80. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 81. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 82. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 83. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 84. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 85. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 86. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 87. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 88. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 89. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 90. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 92. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 93. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 94. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 95. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 96. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> 97. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 98. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 99. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 101. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 102. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>> 103. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 104. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 105. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 106. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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