[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-13: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF JC RESULTS
john.phillips at lp.org
john.phillips at lp.org
Sun Jul 15 16:03:01 EDT 2018
Yes. I m sorry, that was my argument for people to vote no, not an attempt to not have the vote.
If the results were going to affect anything I would be 100% behind an audit, as already stated.
However since the results now mean nothing, then why waste the time and effort to perform the audit?
As a co-sponsor tho I just elect to withhold my vote until later, in an effort to keep an open mind in case someone has an argument to convince me I am wrong.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos Date: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 3:51 PMTo: john.phillips at lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-13: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF JC RESULTS
John then I would say to vote no. I personally would support motions to audit everything.
Once a motion is put out, it cannot be withdrawn without the consent of the body. The issue is that such a withdrawal by email would also be a seven day window.
Since both of these were not flashed across the screen I think some would still want this ballot and thus a withdrawal would not be successful. If Joe's potential "appeal committee" idea passes, this could be rendered moot.
I would suggest wait and see but now that this is before the body and votes recorded there is no graceful way to cease.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:40 PM, john.phillips at lp.org <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
As the JC acknowledgement failed, I would say this is no longer necessary, despite it having been partially my suggestion. At the time of the suggestion we were 9-1-2 on the acknowledging vote, which made it more important.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-businessDate: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 3:17 PMTo: Libertarian National Committee list;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-13: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF JC RESULTS
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list
by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Hagan, Harlos,
Longstreth, Phillips
Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the Judicial Committee
ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie someone
not in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of
votes here: https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
list by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Hagan,
Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips
Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the Judicial Committee
ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie
someone not in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual
tally of votes here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
[2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
--
In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosLibertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:We defend your rightsAnd oppose the use of forceTaxation is theft
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Yes. I m sorry, that was my argument for people to vote no, not an
attempt to not have the vote.
If the results were going to affect anything I would be 100% behind
an audit, as already stated.
However since the results now mean nothing, then why waste the time and
effort to perform the audit?
As a co-sponsor tho I just elect to withhold my vote until later, in an
effort to keep an open mind in case someone has an argument to convince
me I am wrong.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [1]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Caryn Ann Harlos
Date: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 3:51 PM
To: [2]john.phillips at lp.org;
Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-13: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF
JC RESULTS
John then I would say to vote no. I personally would support motions
to audit everything.
Once a motion is put out, it cannot be withdrawn without the consent of
the body. The issue is that such a withdrawal by email would also be a
seven day window.
Since both of these were not flashed across the screen I think some
would still want this ballot and thus a withdrawal would not be
successful. If Joe's potential "appeal committee" idea passes, this
could be rendered moot.
I would suggest wait and see but now that this is before the body and
votes recorded there is no graceful way to cease.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:40 PM, [3]john.phillips at lp.org
<[4]john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
As the JC acknowledgement failed, I would say this is no longer
necessary, despite it having been partially my suggestion. At the time
of the suggestion we were 9-1-2 on the acknowledging vote, which made
it more important.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [5]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
Date: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 3:17 PM
To: Libertarian National Committee list;
Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
Subject:[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-13: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF JC
RESULTS
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list
by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Hagan, Harlos,
Longstreth, Phillips
Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the Judicial Committee
ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie someone
not in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of
votes here: [6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [7]Caryn.Ann.[8
]
Harlos at LP.org or[9] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[10] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
list by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Hagan,
Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips
Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the Judicial Committee
ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie
someone not in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual
tally of votes here: [1][11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
[2][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. [16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
2. mailto[17]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
[18]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or[19] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[20] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. tel:217-412-5973
2. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
3. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
4. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
5. tel:217-412-5973
6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
7. http://Caryn.An/
8. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
9. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
10. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
12. http://Caryn.An/
13. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
14. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
15. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
16. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
17. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
19. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
20. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
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