[Lnc-business] Policy Manual 1.04 -Email Ballots

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

That was my understanding.  In reviewing some old LNC threads it seems like
the practice in the past was to avoid.

Disconnecting the debate from the votes hinders the exchange of ideas to
come to best decision IMHO

Alicia’s explanation makes perfect sense and explains the awkward language.

I do think we should amend the language for clarity.

-Caryn Ann


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:09 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Before there were electronic mail ballots, there were mail ballots -- as
> in USPS, snail-mail ballots.  This policy was written for a scenario when
> the Secretary might need to put a stamp on an envelope and send a piece of
> mail to each LNC member.  In that situation, the piece of mail that was
> sent was not to include arguments for/against the motion.  There was
> nothing to preclude members from phoning each other, or emailing each other
> as more LNC members got email accounts, to argue for or against a motion.
>
> Whenever email ballots came along, the policy just slapped "electronic"
> into the existing wording as an easy fix, though it doesn't really have the
> same impact in the age of email.
>
> The parallel application is just that when the Secretary sends out the
> email which starts the process, that email message should not contain
> debate.
>
> -Alicia
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> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
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>> I believe we may have been doing something incorrectly as per our
>> special rules.  Specifically:
>>
>> Section 1.04 ELECTRONIC MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES
>>
>> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots 30 Electronic mail ballots shall not
>> include an accompanying argument for or against passage of the motion.
>> Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the
>> Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change his or her vote
>> on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received by
>> the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
>>
>> Because when I was first elected debate was permitted in the threads I
>> always interpreted this to mean that the ballot, i.e. the post by the
>> Secretary, should not include any argument.  But I see that in the
>> past, this was not the case but was interpreted to mean no debate at
>> all by anyone.
>>
>> I think we need clarity on this.
>>
>> Personally - I am opposed to not having debate on the email thread - I
>> think it provides better results, but I think we may be violating our
>> rules and that we either need to cease allowing debate or modify our
>> Policy Manual.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>
> --
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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