[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS

Thu Aug 2 11:47:08 EDT 2018

Ms. Harlos,

Please be clear about what I did that was misleading and unduly
influenced the decisions of the delegates. If it is your position that
I acted improperly at the national convention, please specify what I
did and what I should have done instead that was compliant with
Roberts Rules and the bylaws and convention rules.

Yours truly,
Nick
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 8:43 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> No Whitney it is my personal position that the delegates were inadvertently unduly influenced and misled.
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> It would require a bylaws change effective for that convention only.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:01 AM john.phillips at lp.org <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Exactly, I think we already discussed this a bit.
>>>
>>> John Phillips
>>>
>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>
>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> From: Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 10:43 AM
>>> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>> Cc: Sam Goldstein;john.phillips at lp.org;
>>> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS
>>>
>>> At the beginning of convention someone will need to move to amend the convention agenda as specified in our rules
>>>
>>> It would behoove us to plan for that with a smooth process
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 7:56 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just to be clear, one way or another I hope to get it moved to the beginning of the 2020 convention rather than the end or waiting until 2022, so that it can be done and have a fully functioning JC for anything that may come up during the convention.
>>>>
>>>> John Phillips
>>>>
>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>
>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original message------
>>>> From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>> Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 9:45 AM
>>>> To: Sam Goldstein;
>>>> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>>> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS
>>>>
>>>> Unless the 2020 Convention takes care of the problem, yes.
>>>>
>>>> That solves the problem that we - through our chair - inadvertently (but still grievously) caused.
>>>>
>>>> The delegates can take it up in 2020
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> PS: the official results will be announced shortly
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So this pretend JC will serve until 2022?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-08-02 02:22, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The motion specifies that things would continue as if elected which means their term would end as per Bylaws.  I explicitly anticipated that.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:13 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It occurs to me that this motion contains no expiration date, which could lead to confusion about whether these 7 people would play this role forever, even in a future LNC term, even after a Judicial Committee is elected, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This motion needs to clarify that it expires at the end of this term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
>>>>>>>    list by AUGUST 1, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos,
>>>>>>>    Longstreth, Merced, Phillips Motion: Move that the Libertarian National
>>>>>>>    Committee agree to be bound by the decisions of the top-seven
>>>>>>>    vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the 2018 Convention as if
>>>>>>>    they were elected in the normal course of convention business and
>>>>>>>    follow the procedures and rules set forth in our Bylaws. It is
>>>>>>>    acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any member or
>>>>>>>    affiliate. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>>    In Liberty,
>>>>>>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>    We defend your rights
>>>>>>>    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>    Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>    2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> In Liberty,
>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> We defend your rights
>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft