[Lnc-business] Alicia, can you please advise...
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Tue Nov 27 18:21:36 EST 2018
Alicia do you have the bylaws or not. I am not going to argue with you to
justify why I need them nor isxut your decision to hold on to records given
to you as a Party officer when your duly elected successor requested them.
This should not be difficult.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 4:10 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Caryn Ann,
> If I were aware of some particular pressing need to know what state
> affiliate X's bylaws were five years ago, this would have been a higher
> priority for me. If some new situation were to arise, it would be much
> more likely we would be interested in their current bylaws.
> As I previously informed you, I intend to do this after I reorganize
> them in a manner that will make more sense to someone besides me, and
> that intent hasn't changed. After several years of my performance for
> the LNC, there's no good reason to think that the only way to get me to
> take care of a task is to demand updates from me on a public email
> lists, or to add comments to the Secretary's Report incorrectly
> implying that I am causing some sort of bylaw violation.
> Your report for the upcoming meeting suggests that the archive is
> "required by the national bylaws Article 5.2". Bylaw Article 5.2 is
> about how the LNC initially charters a new affiliate. The sentence to
> which I presume you are referring is:
> "Affiliate party status shall be granted only to those organizations
> which adopt the Statement of Principles and file a copy of their
> Constitution and/or Bylaws with the Party Secretary."
> The section as a whole is about actions taken at the time of initial
> affiliation. The sentence itself says that filing a copy of governing
> documents with the Party Secretary is a prerequisite for the LNC
> "granting" affiliate status. I see nothing there about a recurring
> requirement to maintain an archive of ever-changing affiliate bylaws
> after the point of initial affiliation. Given that the document filing
> requirement is tied to affiliate status, is it your position that all
> the affiliates who have not regularly sent updates of their governing
> documents are no longer affiliates?
> I am not aware of any party secretary before me who spent time
> obtaining and maintaining periodic copies of updated bylaws. I became
> concerned at how frequently we have affiliates atrophy, and one
> affiliate even contacted me because they had lost their bylaws after
> officer turnover. I did not have a copy to provide back to them. So
> just in case, I started periodically snagging copies from websites, or
> requesting copies if they weren't on the website. I do not possess a
> history of state affiliate bylaws from inception. It's an incomplete
> (not all state affiliates would respond to my requests) set of data
> starting during my tenure as party secretary.
> The files aren't going anywhere. I have them on two computers, plus in
> an offsite backup. Staff has an older version that I sent them maybe
> three years ago. I still plan to reorganize them and then share a
> copy, but it is not urgent, and drumming up drama about it is just
> unwarranted. I do not feel guilty for having put other projects ahead
> of this task.
> -Alicia
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:27 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Alicia, I am following up on my prior requests for your
> archive of
> the affiliate bylaws from last term. Can you please send those
> over to
> me now that the busyness of elections and convention is over?
> --
> In Liberty,
> [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> at [2][2]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> ====================================================================
> ===
> ==
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All
> Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish
> The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
> Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
> Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools
> To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3][3]http://www.LP.org
>
> ====================================================================
> ===
> ==
> References
> 1. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 2. [5]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 3. [6]http://www.lp.org/
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 3. http://www.LP.org/
> 4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 5. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 6. http://www.lp.org/
>
--
* In Liberty,*
*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *
*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================
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Alicia do you have the bylaws or not. I am not going to argue with you
to justify why I need them nor isxut your decision to hold on to
records given to you as a Party officer when your duly elected
successor requested them. This should not be difficult.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 4:10 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Caryn Ann,
If I were aware of some particular pressing need to know what
state
affiliate X's bylaws were five years ago, this would have been a
higher
priority for me. If some new situation were to arise, it would
be much
more likely we would be interested in their current bylaws.
As I previously informed you, I intend to do this after I
reorganize
them in a manner that will make more sense to someone besides me,
and
that intent hasn't changed. After several years of my
performance for
the LNC, there's no good reason to think that the only way to get
me to
take care of a task is to demand updates from me on a public
email
lists, or to add comments to the Secretary's Report incorrectly
implying that I am causing some sort of bylaw violation.
Your report for the upcoming meeting suggests that the archive is
"required by the national bylaws Article 5.2". Bylaw Article 5.2
is
about how the LNC initially charters a new affiliate. The
sentence to
which I presume you are referring is:
"Affiliate party status shall be granted only to those
organizations
which adopt the Statement of Principles and file a copy of their
Constitution and/or Bylaws with the Party Secretary."
The section as a whole is about actions taken at the time of
initial
affiliation. The sentence itself says that filing a copy of
governing
documents with the Party Secretary is a prerequisite for the LNC
"granting" affiliate status. I see nothing there about a
recurring
requirement to maintain an archive of ever-changing affiliate
bylaws
after the point of initial affiliation. Given that the document
filing
requirement is tied to affiliate status, is it your position that
all
the affiliates who have not regularly sent updates of their
governing
documents are no longer affiliates?
I am not aware of any party secretary before me who spent time
obtaining and maintaining periodic copies of updated bylaws. I
became
concerned at how frequently we have affiliates atrophy, and one
affiliate even contacted me because they had lost their bylaws
after
officer turnover. I did not have a copy to provide back to
them. So
just in case, I started periodically snagging copies from
websites, or
requesting copies if they weren't on the website. I do not
possess a
history of state affiliate bylaws from inception. It's an
incomplete
(not all state affiliates would respond to my requests) set of
data
starting during my tenure as party secretary.
The files aren't going anywhere. I have them on two computers,
plus in
an offsite backup. Staff has an older version that I sent them
maybe
three years ago. I still plan to reorganize them and then share
a
copy, but it is not urgent, and drumming up drama about it is
just
unwarranted. I do not feel guilty for having put other projects
ahead
of this task.
-Alicia
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:27 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Hi Alicia, I am following up on my prior requests for your
archive of
the affiliate bylaws from last term. Can you please send
those
over to
me now that the busyness of elections and convention is
over?
--
In Liberty,
[uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
- [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [2][2][3]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
====================================================================
===
==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal
All
Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money *
Abolish
The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS
and
Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government
Schools
To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or
[3][3][4]http://www.LP.org
====================================================================
===
==
References
1. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
2. [5][5]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
3. [6][6]http://www.lp.org/
References
1. mailto:[7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. [8]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
3. [9]http://www.LP.org/
4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
5. [11]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
6. [12]http://www.lp.org/
--
In Liberty,
[uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [14]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=======================================================================
==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [15]http://www.LP.org
=======================================================================
==
References
1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
4. http://www.LP.org/
5. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
6. http://www.lp.org/
7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
8. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
9. http://www.LP.org/
10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
11. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
12. http://www.lp.org/
13. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
14. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
15. http://www.lp.org/
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