[Lnc-business] 168 Emails
Richard Longstreth
richard.longstreth at lp.org
Wed Aug 15 22:08:17 EDT 2018
Craig, I appreciate your well-thought statement.
Sam, the resolution in question does actually deal with getting people
elected as this has become an issue for several candidates in raising
support, from my understanding.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 6:38 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Craig,
>
> You are a better man than I! I just deleted most of them without
> wasting my time reading them. What
> a colossal waste of time for everyone for a resolution that has no
> impact on anything to do with
> getting Libertarians elected to office.
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Cell
>
> On 2018-08-15 21:20, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
> > To all:
> >
> > When I woke up this morning to check this email account, I found 168
> > unread messages. Mostly people attacking each other over variations of
> > similar beliefs with multiple individuals taking things personally and
> > going after each other. I find this to be very unbecoming of our body.
> > While I am not perfect in this regard, and sometimes slip myself, we
> > really need to hold ourselves to a higher level of professionalism.
> >
> > Unless one resigns, we have to find a way to work together for the
> > next two years. This will include in person meetings. The last thing
> > we should be doing is going for each other's throats.
> >
> > It took me almost two hours to get through everything in the inbox.
> > Most of it, totally unimportant to party business.
> >
> > Do I think we can kill two birds with one stone by completing other
> > tasks and working on a resolution? Yes. But this is entering the realm
> > of ridiculous.
> >
> > Several members of this board are active candidates campaigning on top
> > of our duties. If we merely cut back on the backbiting and personality
> > conflicts alone, we would have likely had half of the emails.
> >
> > I have zero problem with stating your opinion in regard to a motion. I
> > do so regularly. However, it is not going well in this forum. And even
> > if you do not mean to go after someone personally, you cannot inflect
> > tone through an email in a quip against another person's thoughts,
> > which can be taken personally, and spiral from there.
> >
> > In Congress, they limit the time for argument for a reason. You are
> > given time to state where you stand, and we do so in our own
> > conventions, but there honestly needs to be a limit to how much you
> > are putting out there. I am not advocating for new rules, but we
> > should be able to self-govern on this, yes?
> >
> > I cannot afford to put two hours every day on this sort of thing. We
> > are a volunteer board, and we all have lives outside of the LNC. The
> > two hours I spent going through these emails could have been making
> > calls for my campaign for fundraising, finding more clients for my
> > business, etc.
> >
> > I personally will only be checking this email once per day, because we
> > are in the final stretch before the election. I am occupied with many
> > things every day and I have to draw the line so that I do not affect
> > my family life, business, or campaign any more than I already have.
> >
> > Please, try to get out what you have to say in your first emails. What
> > I am typically seeing is the same arguments circling, which go nowhere
> > until the tally is counted. If you have already made the same argument
> > once, saying it again isn't likely to advance your side any further,
> > something learned from personal observation in life.
> >
> > I also ask this as a point of personal privilege. I have a traumatic
> > brain injury, which does cause things to process a little slower for
> > me in regard to so much information going back and forth constantly.
> >
> > Love you all and hope you understand where I come from with this.
> >
> > In Liberty,
> > Craig Bowden
> > Region 1 Alternate
>
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
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Craig, I appreciate your well-thought statement.
Sam, the resolution in question does actually deal with getting people
elected as this has become an issue for several candidates in raising
support, from my understanding.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 6:38 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Craig,
You are a better man than I! I just deleted most of them without
wasting my time reading them. What
a colossal waste of time for everyone for a resolution that has no
impact on anything to do with
getting Libertarians elected to office.
---
Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
[2]317-850-0726 Cell
On 2018-08-15 21:20, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
> To all:
>
> When I woke up this morning to check this email account, I found
168
> unread messages. Mostly people attacking each other over
variations of
> similar beliefs with multiple individuals taking things personally
and
> going after each other. I find this to be very unbecoming of our
body.
> While I am not perfect in this regard, and sometimes slip myself,
we
> really need to hold ourselves to a higher level of
professionalism.
>
> Unless one resigns, we have to find a way to work together for the
> next two years. This will include in person meetings. The last
thing
> we should be doing is going for each other's throats.
>
> It took me almost two hours to get through everything in the
inbox.
> Most of it, totally unimportant to party business.
>
> Do I think we can kill two birds with one stone by completing
other
> tasks and working on a resolution? Yes. But this is entering the
realm
> of ridiculous.
>
> Several members of this board are active candidates campaigning on
top
> of our duties. If we merely cut back on the backbiting and
personality
> conflicts alone, we would have likely had half of the emails.
>
> I have zero problem with stating your opinion in regard to a
motion. I
> do so regularly. However, it is not going well in this forum. And
even
> if you do not mean to go after someone personally, you cannot
inflect
> tone through an email in a quip against another person's thoughts,
> which can be taken personally, and spiral from there.
>
> In Congress, they limit the time for argument for a reason. You
are
> given time to state where you stand, and we do so in our own
> conventions, but there honestly needs to be a limit to how much
you
> are putting out there. I am not advocating for new rules, but we
> should be able to self-govern on this, yes?
>
> I cannot afford to put two hours every day on this sort of thing.
We
> are a volunteer board, and we all have lives outside of the LNC.
The
> two hours I spent going through these emails could have been
making
> calls for my campaign for fundraising, finding more clients for my
> business, etc.
>
> I personally will only be checking this email once per day,
because we
> are in the final stretch before the election. I am occupied with
many
> things every day and I have to draw the line so that I do not
affect
> my family life, business, or campaign any more than I already
have.
>
> Please, try to get out what you have to say in your first emails.
What
> I am typically seeing is the same arguments circling, which go
nowhere
> until the tally is counted. If you have already made the same
argument
> once, saying it again isn't likely to advance your side any
further,
> something learned from personal observation in life.
>
> I also ask this as a point of personal privilege. I have a
traumatic
> brain injury, which does cause things to process a little slower
for
> me in regard to so much information going back and forth
constantly.
>
> Love you all and hope you understand where I come from with this.
>
> In Liberty,
> Craig Bowden
> Region 1 Alternate
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[3]richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
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