[Lnc-business] (Partial) mirror of backchannel discussion

[Susan Hogarth]

 FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST
  

  
(I’m leaving out lots of chatter in favor of substance. I hope to see the substantive discussion move back here)
  

  
John Phillips Jr wrote
  

  
  
Too long.    As I said on the mailing list.    
  

  
"We affirm 2.1 of the plank, recognizing property rights, therefore Rent agreed on voluntarily without state interference is not Theft" is enough
  
  
  
  
  
  Susan Jane Hogarth
  
  Region 5 Alternate
  
  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
  
  
  
  

  
  
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> On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:45 AM,  <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
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>  Joshua Smith wrote (adding ‘there. Ship it.’ afterward)  
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> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore  
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>  the right of privatization of property as an extension of the  
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>  individual;  
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>  WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party  
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>  explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including  
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>  the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;  
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>  WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of  
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>  individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural  
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>  resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and  
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>  other lawful libertarian means;  
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>  WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to  
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>  land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist  
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>  as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;  
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>  WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian  
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>  Party since its inception;  
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>  THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property  
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>  ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, Naturally unlawful  
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>  usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private  
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>  property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are  
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>  incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.  
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>  Susan Jane Hogarth  
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> >  On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:43 AM,  <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:  
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> >  FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST  
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> >  Alex Merced wrote:  
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> >  For those who want to try improving the current motion, here’s a thread for that.  
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> >  WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore  
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> >  the right of privatization of property as an extension of the  
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> >  individual;  
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> >  WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party  
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> >  explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including  
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> >  the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;  
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> >  WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of  
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> >  individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural  
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> >  resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and  
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> >  other lawful libertarian means;  
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> >  WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to  
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> >  land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist  
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> >  as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;  
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> >  WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian  
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> >  Party since its inception;  
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> >  THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property  
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> >  ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, unlawful  
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> >  usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private  
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> >  property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are  
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> >  incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.  
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> >  Susan Jane Hogarth  
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> >   >  On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM,  <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:  
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> >   >  Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a workspace for lnc members I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list for ‘workshopping’ resolutions because I think lnc businnes should be done here on this list unless we are appointing a Resolutions Committee.  
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> >   >  However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant material here where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I felt very blindsided when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored here with what felt like zero discussion when other motions were being kicked around, and I don’t want that to keep happening.  
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> >   >  Susan Jane Hogarth  
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   FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST

   (I’m leaving out lots of chatter in favor of substance. I hope to see
   the substantive discussion move back here)

   John Phillips Jr wrote

   Too long.  As I said on the mailing list.
   "We affirm 2.1 of the plank, recognizing property rights, therefore
   Rent agreed on voluntarily without state interference is not Theft" is
   enough

   Susan Jane Hogarth

   Region 5 Alternate

   [1]919-906-2106

   On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:45 AM, <[2]Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business> wrote:




  FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST



 Joshua Smith wrote (adding ‘there. Ship it.’ afterward)




WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore

   the right of privatization of property as an extension of the

   individual;



   WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party

   explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including

   the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;



   WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of

   individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural

   resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and

   other lawful libertarian means;



   WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to

   land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist

   as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;



   WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian

   Party since its inception;



   THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property

   ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, Naturally unla
wful

   usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private

   property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are

   incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.





  Susan Jane Hogarth

  Region 5 Alternate

  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)







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> On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:43 AM,  <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-busin
ess at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
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> FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST
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>  Alex Merced wrote:
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> For those who want to try improving the current motion, here’s a thread for th
at.
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> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore
>
>  the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
>
>  individual;
>
>
>
>  WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
>
>  explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including
>
>  the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
>
>
>
>  WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
>
>  individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural
>
>  resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and
>
>  other lawful libertarian means;
>
>
>
>  WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to
>
>  land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist
>
>  as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
>
>
>
>  WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
>
>  Party since its inception;
>
>
>
>  THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
>
>  ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, unlawful
>
>  usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
>
>  property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
>
>  incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
>
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>  Susan Jane Hogarth
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>  Region 5 Alternate
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>  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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> >  On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM,  <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-bu
siness at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
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> >  Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a workspace for lnc m
embers I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list for ‘workshopping’ resol
utions because I think lnc businnes should be done here on this list unless we a
re appointing a Resolutions Committee.
> >
> >
> >
> >  However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant material her
e where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I felt very blindsided
when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored here with what felt like zero
 discussion when other motions were being kicked around, and I don’t want that t
o keep happening.
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> >  Susan Jane Hogarth
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> >  Region 5 Alternate
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> >  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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References

   1. tel:919-906-2106
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org