[Lnc-business] Second draft of 12/9/17 LNC Meeting Minutes

[Joshua Katz]

Well, I object to auto-approval (and I note that the Policy Manual
provision on this states "member," not "attendee.")  I will catalog my
objections shortly (before the 8th) and see if they are amenable to email
handling or would best be handled at a meeting.  Currently I've got 50
pages to edit, and need to finish my note, so it may take a few days.

Joshua A. Katz


On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> When I objected in the past it was put on the agenda of the next meeting
> if it couldn’t be resolved in email.
>
> I have previously objected to both meeting and convention minutes and that
> is how handled.
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:37 PM Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Policy Manual does not explain what happens when there is objection.
>> Can someone with more experience tell me what happens if there is
>> objection?  I know how it would work at an in-person meeting, but multiple
>> email ballots on amendments doesn't seem workable, nor does it make sense
>> to me that a single person can prevent approval, but it would take 4 to
>> move to amend.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, attached is the version 2 draft of the last meeting
>>> minutes.
>>>
>>> Please note that absent objections, these will auto-approve on January
>>> 8, 2018.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I offer the following comments on the suggestions offered:
>>>
>>> *I changed all the instances of "passed" to "was adopted" except for one
>>> instance of calling the question for which that would not be appropriate.
>>>
>>> *I have reviewed past minutes and note that the seconder is not noted.
>>> While I include that information in the minutes done for committees and the
>>> LPCO, I have removed that from this draft as it has not been this body's
>>> practice and consistency is important.
>>>
>>> *I amended the wording about Starchild's absence - I have included the
>>> weather related comments.
>>>
>>> *Both addresses are correct for Nick's campaign site, but I amended to
>>> spell out "for" - using the number 4 is more visually attractive when
>>> writing.
>>>
>>> *It is correct that Starchild only expressed that the objection
>>> regarding the CC interim chair was expressed verbally - I had the same
>>> objection but did not express it at the time
>>>
>>> *I left it as Ms. Salvette and Ms. Hogarth as they were already
>>> introduced by full names and referred to with those designations the day
>>> prior.
>>>
>>> *I didn't name the two express abstentions in the first budget amendment
>>> for two reasons.  One the recording is not clear, and second, if the
>>> abstainers wanted a roll call vote it could have been requested so I don't
>>> think it is proper to name them (I am somewhat surprised that Starchild did
>>> not request a roll call vote).
>>>
>>> *I removed the word "key" from factor in the venue vote reluctantly.  I
>>> do think it was key which later set the stage for the decision on the next
>>> LNC meeting location, but since that is subjective, I removed it, though I
>>> think it accurate.
>>>
>>> *On the ordering of the reports in the appendix, I note that I ordered
>>> them in the same order that Ms. Mattson did for our last minutes with all
>>> of Dr. Lark's reports (Region 5, Campus Organizing, and International
>>> grouped together) - which may not have been immediately obvious in past
>>> minutes as I included an index of appendixes.  I do agree that the order
>>> suggested by Dr. Lark is more logical and I have changed that order and
>>> suggest that for the future and also that an appendix be included to make
>>> it easier for our members to find all the reports, particularly since
>>> Region 1 tends to have an obnoxiously long report ;)
>>>
>>> *I noted the vote that Alicia noted was missing.
>>>
>>> *I accepted most of the re-wording suggestions though no meaning would
>>> be changed and were strictly stylistic.
>>>
>>> So that you do not have to re-review the whole thing unless you wish to,
>>> I have highlighted all the changes made (I have simply deleted the
>>> seconders without any highlighting).  I will remove the highlighting in the
>>> final version.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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