[Lnc-business] Hubbub email chain length for 134-member LNC

Elizabeth Van Horn elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Mon Jan 15 01:36:34 EST 2018


What in the world are you talking about?  I haven't done "anti-Arvin 
diatribes".  I just now posted a reply to Caryn Ann, and emphasized for 
the first time what I think is wrong with Arvin's behavior. Hell, if 
anything Caryn Ann has done the anti-Arvin diatribes and Arvin even 
noted that.

As for "snidely", good, I'm glad you noticed.  I take it you didn't like 
it much?  Then perhaps you'd do the courtesy of not doing that toward 
me, which was clearly what you were doing with your reply to my motion.  
Don't do it, as it will boomerang back.


Also, my suggestion was actually 50 people, one per state. I just typoed 
it.  *laughing*


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Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
http://www.lpcaucus.org/

On 2018-01-15 01:21, david.demarest at lp.org wrote:
> Actually, Elizabeth, the current bylaws committee approved proposal
> provides for 130 state representatives and an expanded executive
> committee of 11. The expanded number of At Large representatives from
> 5 to 7 would be selected not by convention delegates but by the LNC. I
> am part of the minority that opposed the proposed change. I am in
> favor of better representation for states via established guidelines
> for regional reps and alternates that Caryn Ann and I have lobbied
> for.
> 
> Thank you for suggesting some logistical considerations, specifically
> posting rules, the likes of which were notably glossed over by the
> approving committee majority. In practice, however, posting rules may
> cause more problems than they would solve. Your approach in the email
> below of voluntary ostracism would probably be more effective.
> However, I take it your anti-Arvin diatribes and other frequent
> contributions evidently do not count as ramblings that you snidely
> referenced.
> 
> My concern is the logistics of face-to-face meetings for such a large
> LNC that would likely diminish face-to-face meetings to once a year
> with the obvious result of more concentration in the executive
> committee and less representation of states. Electronic meetings would
> be totally impossible.
> 
> I believe that the logistical difficulties of a large LNC would
> inevitably result in more concentration of power in the executive
> committee and reduced representation of states not to mention the fact
> that the election of expanded number of 7 At Large representatives
> would be taken away from the convention delegates to be replaced by
> their election by the LNC (and from the LNC?). That is a concentration
> of power move if I ever saw one. I heard what you said about state
> representation but is disenfranchisement of convention delegates and
> states what you really want?
> 
> Fortunately, this impractical proposal as it currently stands is
> unlikely to pass muster with convention delegates but we shall see.
> The current system is admittedly not perfect but it works reasonably
> well logistically and improvements are possible without changing the
> size. The proposed expansion appears to me to be a solution looking
> for a problem.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> ~David Pratt Demarest
> 
> On 2018-01-14 23:25, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>> I think expanding to one representative per state, for a total of 100
>> members, would be a plus.  (I know that's not what the bylaws people
>> want.)
>> 
>> Because, it would be easier to get feedback from the members.  The
>> actual people we represent.
>> 
>> Then some posting rules could be in place, such as no burdening the
>> rest of the LNC with personal rambles and dreams.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> 
>> 
>> On 2018-01-15 00:17, david.demarest at lp.org wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you imagine the length of this bruhaha email chain if the bylaws
>>> committee proposal to expand the the LNC to 134 members was already 
>>> in
>>> place. It boggles the imagination.
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