[Lnc-business] Motion to suspend Arvin Vohra

[Alicia Mattson]

Joshua, I agree with your understanding that a seconder is different than a
mover, and it is only the mover who is prohibited from speaking against
their own motion.  I haven't taken the time to find the citation in RONR,
but I believe it specifically makes the point that seconding a motion
should not be interpreted as necessarily supporting the motion, as one may
second it just because they think it needs to be discussed.  On email
ballots, I'd say the first cosponsor is the mover, and the others are
playing the role of seconders.

-Alicia


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have stated my preference for an electronic meeting.  I also said in
> that email that this is the second time this has come up, and it needs a
> full hearing.  Since then, I have read emails from Ms. Harlos and from Mr.
> Sharpe which have called some of my beliefs on this topic into question.  I
> still am strongly inclined to vote no, but I have been convinced that
> consideration is due.  I believe motions get clearer and better
> consideration when they are actually pending - there is a difference,
> psychologically, between speaking in general, and speaking on a precise
> motion.  (On a side note, I agree with Ms. Harlos that this motion would be
> better if it specified the cause, although I do not think this is
> necessary.)  Therefore, I will cosponsor.
>
> However, I am cosponsoring on the following understanding, and I ask the
> Secretary to correct me if my understanding is incorrect.  According to
> RONR, the maker of a motion may not speak against it in debate (but may
> vote against it), but the seconder may speak against it in debate.  Our
> email ballots generally list everyone who wished to see the motion, the
> original maker and the cosponsors, as "cosponsors."  That notwithstanding,
> it is my understanding that a cosponsor is in the position of a seconder
> and may speak in debate against the motion.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn <
> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I make a motion to suspend Arvin Vohra from his position as Vice Chair under Article 6, Section 7 of our Bylaws.
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Three of the four state affiliate chairs in Region 3 are now backing this motion. I told Region 3 that I'd need at least 3/4 of the region in accord to make the motion to suspend Arvin.  That percent was reached last night.
>>
>> When I volunteered my time and energy to be a Regional Rep on the LNC, I didn't do it under the circumstances of, "only if convenient".
>>
>> I'm doing this because I care about giving a voice to the many LP members who are running for office, getting out the vote, and spending their hard-earned money working toward electing libertarians.
>>
>> These are the people that make up the Libertarian Party. It is their voice that I represent.
>>
>> So, it is with calm resolve that I make this motion.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>
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