[Lnc-business] Motion to Censure

Daniel Hayes daniel.hayes at lp.org
Fri Jan 19 22:18:36 EST 2018


I don’t disagree and withdraw my cosponsorship of the Hewitt Motion.

Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member

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> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:25 PM, Starchild <starchild at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>    Although I oppose the motion to remove Arvin Vohra as vice chair (but
>   might support a well-written censure motion that makes it clear this is
>   not a statement opposing radical libertarianism), I think Caryn Ann is
>   correct on this bylaws point.
> 
>   Love & Liberty,
> 
>                                      ((( starchild )))
>   At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                    [1]starchild at lp.org
>                                    (415) 625-FREE
> 
>   On Jan 19, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> 
>     I quote our Bylaws:
>     ARTICLE 2: PURPOSES
>     The Party is organized to implement and give voice to the principles
>     embodied in the Statement of Principles by: functioning as a
>     libertarian political entity separate and distinct from all other
>     political parties or movements; moving public policy in a libertarian
>     direction by building a political party that elects Libertarians to
>     public office; chartering affiliate parties throughout the United
>     States and promoting their growth and activities; nominating
>   candidates
>     for President and Vice-President of the United States, and supporting
>     Party and affiliate party candidates for political office; and,
>     entering into public information activities.
>     That Bylaw defines our purpose and it DOES NOT say what this Motion
>     says "is primary."  We have ONE purpose.: to implement and give voice
>     to the principles embodied in the Statement of Principles with MANY
>     EQUAL ways to do so.
>     On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>     <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>     Further the motion is contrary to our Bylaws and thus out of order.
>     I challenge the motion on those grounds and ask for a ruling of the
>     Chair.
>     We cannot in motions redefine the primary purpose of the Party which
>   is
>     NOT that and was VOTED DOWN last convention.
>     On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 7:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>     <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>     Because Region 1 so far wants suspension. I will not have their
>   rights
>     gamed away like this.
>     On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 7:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>     <[3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>     I don�t consider it adequate and this seems like an end run around
>     other members when the fair thing is to add this to the electronic
>     call.
>     Colour me not particularly pleased.  Everyone should have a chance to
>     argue their case.
>     Please don�t force my hand to co-sponsor the other one in order to
>     protect Region 1�s rights.
>     On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM Daniel Hayes <[4]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
>     wrote:
>       Alicia, what would be the end date on this ballot?
>       Daniel
>       Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     On Jan 19, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Alicia Mattson
> 
>       <[5]alicia.mattson at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>      Since there are already a sufficient number of people requesting
> 
>       an
> 
>      electronic meeting, but they're hammering out the meeting
> 
>       date/time
> 
>      still, why not just add this to the call of the meeting and
> 
>       handle it
> 
>      at the same time?  Otherwise we're going to have overlapping
> 
>       subjects,
> 
>      one by email ballot and one by electronic meeting.
> 
>      -Alicia
> 
>      On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Jeff Hewitt
> 
>       <[1][6]jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org>
> 
>      wrote:
> 
>         Move to censure LNC Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra for repeated
> 
>       comments
> 
>      made
> 
>         on social media that are inflammatory and destructive to the
> 
>      building
> 
>         of a competent political entity whose primary function is to
> 
>       draw
> 
>         people to libertarian ideas and to elect Libertarian
> 
>       candidates to
> 
>         office.
> 
>         Jeff Hewitt
> 
>         LNC Region 4 Representive
> 
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>     References
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>      1. mailto:[9]jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
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>      2. mailto:[10]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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>      3. [11]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
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>   References
>     1. [2]mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>     2. [3]mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>     3. [4]mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>     4. [5]mailto:daniel.hayes at lp.org
>     5. [6]mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
>     6. [7]mailto:jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
>     7. [8]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>     8. [9]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>     9. [10]mailto:jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
>    10. [11]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    11. [12]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>    12. [13]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    13. [14]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>    14. [15]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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> References
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>   1. mailto:starchild at lp.org
>   2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>   3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>   4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>   5. mailto:daniel.hayes at lp.org
>   6. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
>   7. mailto:jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
>   8. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   9. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>  10. mailto:jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
>  11. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>  12. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>  13. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>  14. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>  15. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>  16. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>  17. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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