[Lnc-business] I assume this is Liberty Hangout's Republican Lies
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Thu Feb 1 19:53:09 EST 2018
That post gets a bit personal. I guess I will edit it down to just the
facts and reword.
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
> What I sent to the list is what I have sent to individual members who
> have asked me to comment.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> > Nick do we have an official statement that I can send to members who
> > ask? Or something you summed up?
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <[1]chair at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > “A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on.”
> > Andy Craig from Wisconsin summed up the situation in a Facebook post
> > (
> > [2]https://www.facebook.com/Andrew.Craig.Dixie.Pug/posts/
> > 947442695418584
> > ) that I've copied and pasted below:
> > "No, Ron Paul wasn't banned or rejected from speaking at the LP
> > convention.
> > Some folks with no real agenda other than causing a stink, spoke to
> > Paul's booking agent, who expressed interest if Paul's usual
> > speaking
> > fee was paid ($35,000), because that's the job of a booking agent.
> > (The same agent also reps Judge Napolitano, and mentioned that).
> > This
> > group then went to the folks handling the convention for the LP,
> > demanded Paul be put on the agenda, and claimed they'd later raise
> > the
> > money to pay him. LP didn't bite, for obvious reasons. Even if they
> > could have done it (dubious), the party's not particularly
> > interested
> > in seeing Libertarian donors diverted to pay for an exorbitant
> > speaking fee with no real benefit. If the Mises [sic] Caucus would
> > like to raise and spend that much money and rent a room in New
> > Orleans
> > and have Paul speak... well, good luck with that. There's nothing
> > stopping them, though I know a lot of Libertarian candidates who
> > could
> > better spend that money in the 2018 elections. There are races that
> > could be won on less money than that.
> > And if he desires it enough to say he's coming regardless, I have
> > little doubt Paul would be given a slot on the main-stage. It was
> > just
> > at the last convention that we gave him an award that he accepted
> > via
> > video message, after all. (An award given with some fair internal
> > grumbling over his lack of support for the party or any of its
> > candidates, while still often endorsing and supporting Republicans).
> > Short version: much ado about nothing. Ron Paul himself expressed no
> > interest in wanting to speak in New Orleans, and he still hasn't.
> > The whole point of this exercise was never to actually have him
> > speak,
> > but rather to frame a purely manufactured controversy, and that
> > intention is absurdly transparent. I've had plenty of gripes about
> > the
> > party's management and operations and convention-planning, but this
> > whole thing is nonsense. Speaking slots at the convention don't
> > really
> > matter that much (I had one last time!), and nobody from the LP told
> > Paul he was unwelcome in New Orleans."
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:32 PM, <[3]arvin.vohra at lp.org> wrote:
> > > But since people are asking, I thought I'd seek clarification.
> > >
> > > [4]http://libertyhangout.org/2018/02/libertarian-party-
> > wont-let-ron-paul-speak-national-convention/
> > >
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:chair at lp.org
> > 2. https://www.facebook.com/Andrew.Craig.Dixie.Pug/posts/
> 947442695418584
> > 3. mailto:arvin.vohra at lp.org
> > 4. http://libertyhangout.org/2018/02/libertarian-party-
> wont-let-ron-paul-speak-national-convention/
>
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That post gets a bit personal. I guess I will edit it down to just the
facts and reword.
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <[1]chair at lp.org>
wrote:
What I sent to the list is what I have sent to individual members
who
have asked me to comment.
-Nick
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> Nick do we have an official statement that I can send to
members who
> ask? Or something you summed up?
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Nicholas Sarwark
<[1][3]chair at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> “A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its
boots on.”
> Andy Craig from Wisconsin summed up the situation in a
Facebook post
> (
> [2][4]https://www.facebook.com/Andrew.Craig.Dixie.Pug/posts/
> 947442695418584
> ) that I've copied and pasted below:
> "No, Ron Paul wasn't banned or rejected from speaking at the LP
> convention.
> Some folks with no real agenda other than causing a stink, spoke
to
> Paul's booking agent, who expressed interest if Paul's usual
> speaking
> fee was paid ($35,000), because that's the job of a booking
agent.
> (The same agent also reps Judge Napolitano, and mentioned that).
> This
> group then went to the folks handling the convention for the LP,
> demanded Paul be put on the agenda, and claimed they'd later
raise
> the
> money to pay him. LP didn't bite, for obvious reasons. Even if
they
> could have done it (dubious), the party's not particularly
> interested
> in seeing Libertarian donors diverted to pay for an exorbitant
> speaking fee with no real benefit. If the Mises [sic] Caucus
would
> like to raise and spend that much money and rent a room in New
> Orleans
> and have Paul speak... well, good luck with that. There's
nothing
> stopping them, though I know a lot of Libertarian candidates who
> could
> better spend that money in the 2018 elections. There are races
that
> could be won on less money than that.
> And if he desires it enough to say he's coming regardless, I
have
> little doubt Paul would be given a slot on the main-stage. It
was
> just
> at the last convention that we gave him an award that he
accepted
> via
> video message, after all. (An award given with some fair
internal
> grumbling over his lack of support for the party or any of its
> candidates, while still often endorsing and supporting
Republicans).
> Short version: much ado about nothing. Ron Paul himself
expressed no
> interest in wanting to speak in New Orleans, and he still
hasn't.
> The whole point of this exercise was never to actually have him
> speak,
> but rather to frame a purely manufactured controversy, and that
> intention is absurdly transparent. I've had plenty of gripes
about
> the
> party's management and operations and convention-planning, but
this
> whole thing is nonsense. Speaking slots at the convention don't
> really
> matter that much (I had one last time!), and nobody from the LP
told
> Paul he was unwelcome in New Orleans."
> -Nick
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:32 PM, <[3][5]arvin.vohra at lp.org>
wrote:
> > But since people are asking, I thought I'd seek
clarification.
> >
> > [4][6]http://libertyhangout.org/2018/02/libertarian-party-
> wont-let-ron-paul-speak-national-convention/
> >
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[7]chair at lp.org
> 2. [8]https://www.facebook.com/Andrew.Craig.Dixie.Pug/posts/
947442695418584
> 3. mailto:[9]arvin.vohra at lp.org
> 4. [10]http://libertyhangout.org/2018/02/libertarian-party-
wont-let-ron-paul-speak-national-convention/
References
1. mailto:chair at lp.org
2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
3. mailto:chair at lp.org
4. https://www.facebook.com/Andrew.Craig.Dixie.Pug/posts/
5. mailto:arvin.vohra at lp.org
6. http://libertyhangout.org/2018/02/libertarian-party-
7. mailto:chair at lp.org
8. https://www.facebook.com/Andrew.Craig.Dixie.Pug/posts/947442695418584
9. mailto:arvin.vohra at lp.org
10. http://libertyhangout.org/2018/02/libertarian-party-wont-let-ron-paul-speak-national-convention/
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