[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment

Joshua Katz planning4liberty at gmail.com
Fri Feb 23 17:36:41 EST 2018


The arguments made here are my reason for opposing the clawback notion.

I'm not talking about your disclosure.  Staff and/or the chair should be
informing the board of these sorts of transactions and seeking affirmative
approval from the board, with those involved in the transaction
abstaining.  The issues here are raised when staff makes available to a
board member, on a discretionary basis, an opportunity not available to
similarly situated board members (i.e. this doesn't extend to the chair,
for multiple reasons, but one of them is that none of us are similarly
situated).  That creates the potential for conflict.

I acknowledge that the ED and chair knew.  Everyone knew, apparently,
except the board.  Conflicted transactions require authorization of the
disinterested board members, with full disclosure, and that's what wasn't
done.  That also wasn't your job to do.  It should have been presented to
us by staff.  I'm not talking about your potential conflict of interest
report, I'm talking about the transaction itself.

I'm not terribly interested in recriminations, though.  What I am
interested in is, moving forward, understanding this norm and applying it
to such transactions, and everyone involved seeing the potential for
conflicts here.

Joshua A. Katz


On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

>    As to disclosure issue- it was approved by the ED.  The Chair was in
>    that loop.  The whole arc of fundraising was to start involving board
>    members more.
>    Considering I disclosed pennies on a steemit video this certainly is
>    not some grand omission.  When I am given official sanction to do
>    something by the Party - and everything is approved by Chair or
>    Treasurer - it isn’t something that is a conflict which is to disclose
>    unknown or potentially unknown things.  The Party asked me.  It is on
>    financial statements.  The Chair and Treasurer were aware. I openly
>    talked about it on Facebook.
>    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:10 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>    <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
>    Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read something sinister
>    but not everything.
>    My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions of that.
>    I have already clearly stated here that recruitment trips are just that
>    and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I would spend my
>    time.  Which I do at every event.
>
>    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
>    <[2]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points, although I'd
>      emphasize that
>         my issue is more about disclosure of potential issues to the
>      board
>         ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I see here.  I
>         explained some, I can find more.  The solution to that is, in the
>         future, disclosure to the board of transactions involving LNC
>      members,
>         and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I am writing to
>         express disagreement with one point:  I almost always disagree
>      with
>         clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual malfeasance.  I
>      would
>         disagree with requesting the return of funds or stopping funds in
>         progress.
>         Joshua A. Katz
>         On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>         <[1][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>           Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying that I was
>      shocked
>           to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to attend state
>           conventions within their own region.
>           Dear LNC,
>                Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
>      members by
>                attending state conventions and getting people to join or
>           renew.
>                At first, she did this at state conventions she was
>      attending
>           in her
>                region at her own expense.
>           I've no problem with this. LNC representatives often attend
>      state
>           conventions within their own region, and if she works to boost
>           national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
>                Her results were so strong that I asked her if she would
>      be
>           willing
>                to go to some other states outside of her region to do
>      similar
>                fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
>      reimbursed.
>           < This is something that should have been told to the LNC, and
>      even
>           discussed.  Why are we only finding this out, after someone
>           inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
>                We have been struggling to keep membership from falling.
>      We
>           send
>                renewal emails and renewal letters that perform reasonably
>      well
>           but
>                pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we try have
>      very
>           low
>                ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
>                Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention last
>      weekend
>           and
>                recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the national
>      LP.
>                That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her for her
>           travel.
>            I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
>      Representatives
>           will attend state conventions within their region.  If any of
>      them
>           do membership recruiting for national while there, that's
>      something
>           they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn Ann wouldn't
>      have
>           tried to boost membership at a state convention within her
>      region,
>           if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.  This was
>           something she was doing as she chose to do, while attending
>           conventions within her own region. This isn't something that an
>      LNC
>           member should be reimbursed for. <<<
>                I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state conventions to
>      have
>           her do
>                this work. No one else has done this as successfully as
>      Caryn
>           Ann.
>                Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for her time.
>           Wes, you don't know what others have done regarding recruiting,
>      as
>           most people do it as a normal part of being in the LP.  I, nor
>      most
>           others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to join the LP,
>      as I
>           see it as a given this is done.<<<
>           Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has let national
>           membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with the national
>      LP.  At
>           my last state convention, our officers said that they want
>      people to
>           keep state memberships current, but national doesn't do
>      anything for
>           them, so they don't care much about that.  I had to mention
>      that our
>           delegate count is tied to national membership, and since then,
>      I
>           followed -up on that, but our numbers still have dropped. I've
>      been
>           thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is successful in
>           reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers are
>      passionate
>           about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because anyone  is being
>           reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.  (My state
>      isn't the
>           only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
>                For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take the time
>      to
>           attend,
>                I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The thing
>      with
>           Jess
>                is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend, and
>      return
>           from
>                state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of a ROI.
>            I personally wouldn't send anyone to state conventions to
>      boost
>           national membership, if the national LP is paying for it.
>      Instead,
>           we should work to create a better LP that's responsive to it's
>           members and the public, and we grow through people seeking to
>      join
>           us.  Organic growth.<<<
>                I received a complaint today that it is inappropriate for
>           someone
>                running for a position on the LNC to have travel
>      reimbursed.
>                I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think it's a
>           violation
>                of our policies.
>           It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn Ann Harlos for
>           traveling to state conventions within her own region, the LP is
>           subsidizing her efforts as a regional representative. This is
>           inappropriate.<<<
>                Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
>      feedback. If
>           you
>                request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any other
>      LNC
>           member
>                to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
>      dues-paying
>                members, we can end the program.
>           Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC members for
>      travel to
>           state conventions within their own region.  I also am
>      requesting
>           that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement costs of any
>      state
>           conventions she attended within her region.
>           As for "sending her" to other state conventions, this should be
>           discussed by the LNC.<<<
>                A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go to
>      state
>                convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
>      members--why
>           don't
>                you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved her
>           willingness
>                and capability within her own region. No other LNC members
>      have
>                mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members from
>      their
>                states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together are not able to
>           attend
>                every state convention. If you are interested in helping,
>      and
>                willing to prove your ability first at a state in your
>      region
>           or at
>                another state at your own expense, let me know and we
>      might be
>           able
>                to try that. And then we can report the results.
>            Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership due to a FB
>      post
>           that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that he's the reason
>      she
>           renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for quite a
>      number of
>           people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an excellent
>      advocate
>           for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to find someone
>      who's out
>           there building up hope in the LP, and getting people on board,
>      he's
>           the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as Andy doesn't
>      seek
>           to be recognized for his efforts, he probably sees it as normal
>      for
>           people who support the LP.
>           Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep track of how
>      many
>           people they've recruited.  So, your statement asking people to
>           "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
>           (truncated)
>           ---
>           Elizabeth Van Horn
>         On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
>           Dear LNC,
>                Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
>      members by
>                attending state conventions and getting people to join or
>           renew.
>                At first, she did this at state conventions she was
>      attending
>           in her
>                region at her own expense.
>                Her results were so strong that I asked her if she would
>      be
>           willing
>                to go to some other states outside of her region to do
>      similar
>                fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
>      reimbursed.
>                We have been struggling to keep membership from falling.
>      We
>           send
>                renewal emails and renewal letters that perform reasonably
>      well
>           but
>                pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we try have
>      very
>           low
>                ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
>                Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention last
>      weekend
>           and
>                recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the national
>      LP.
>                That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her for her
>           travel.
>                I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state conventions to
>      have
>           her do
>                this work. No one else has done this as successfully as
>      Caryn
>           Ann.
>                Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for her time.
>                For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take the time
>      to
>           attend,
>                I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The thing
>      with
>           Jess
>                is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend, and
>      return
>           from
>                state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of a ROI.
>                I received a complaint today that it is inappropriate for
>           someone
>                running for a position on the LNC to have travel
>      reimbursed.
>                I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think it's a
>           violation
>                of our policies.
>                Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
>      feedback. If
>           you
>                request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any other
>      LNC
>           member
>                to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
>      dues-paying
>                members, we can end the program.
>                A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go to
>      state
>                convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
>      members--why
>           don't
>                you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved her
>           willingness
>                and capability within her own region. No other LNC members
>      have
>                mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members from
>      their
>                states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together are not able
>      to
>           attend
>                every state convention. If you are interested in helping,
>      and
>                willing to prove your ability first at a state in your
>      region
>           or at
>                another state at your own expense, let me know and we
>      might be
>           able
>                to try that. And then we can report the results.
>                Below is a report from Robert Kraus with some of the
>           fundraising
>                results from Caryn Ann.
>                I welcome your feedback.
>           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>           [3](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [1][4][4]wes.benedict at lp.org
>           [2][5][5]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>           Join the Libertarian Party at:
>      [3][6][6]http://lp.org/membership
>              -------- Forwarded Message --------
>              Subject: Harlos Fundraising
>                 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
>                 From: Robert S. Kraus [4]<[7][7]robert.kraus at lp.org>
>                   To: Wes Benedict [5]<[8][8]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>           I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total of $2,335.00
>      for 82
>           members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks have also
>      contributed
>           a
>           net total excluding conv related gifts of $6,261.74 since 2016
>           convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation of course so
>      she has
>           her
>           fans)
>           In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the $12,120
>      raised for
>           Historic Preservation
>           Finally she has given $2181 herself since the 2016 convention
>      (non
>           convention related - however $1525 was for Hist Preservation)
>           --
>           Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
>           [6]Operations at LP.org
>           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>           1444 Duke Street
>           Alexandria, VA 22314
>           Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
>           References
>              1. mailto:[11][9]wes.benedict at lp.org
>              2. [12][10]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>              3. [13][11]http://lp.org/membership
>              4. mailto:[14][12]robert.kraus at lp.org
>              5. mailto:[15][13]wes.benedict at lp.org
>              6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
>      References
>         1. mailto:[14]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>         2.
>      [15]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>      ntry=gmail&source=g
>         3. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>         4. mailto:[16]wes.benedict at lp.org
>         5. [17]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>         6. [18]http://lp.org/membership
>         7. mailto:[19]robert.kraus at lp.org
>         8. mailto:[20]wes.benedict at lp.org
>         9.
>      [21]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
>      l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>        10. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
>        11. mailto:[22]wes.benedict at lp.org
>        12. [23]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>        13. [24]http://lp.org/membership
>        14. mailto:[25]robert.kraus at lp.org
>        15. mailto:[26]wes.benedict at lp.org
>        16. mailto:[27]Operations at LP.org
>
> References
>
>    1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>    2. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>    3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>    4. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>    5. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>    6. http://lp.org/membership
>    7. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>    8. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>    9. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>   10. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>   11. http://lp.org/membership
>   12. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>   13. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>   14. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>   15. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+
> are+n&entry=gmail&source=g
>   16. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>   17. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>   18. http://lp.org/membership
>   19. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>   20. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>   21. https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+
> for+a+total+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>   22. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>   23. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>   24. http://lp.org/membership
>   25. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>   26. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>   27. mailto:Operations at LP.org
>
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   The arguments made here are my reason for opposing the clawback
   notion.
   I'm not talking about your disclosure.  Staff and/or the chair should
   be informing the board of these sorts of transactions and seeking
   affirmative approval from the board, with those involved in the
   transaction abstaining.  The issues here are raised when staff makes
   available to a board member, on a discretionary basis, an opportunity
   not available to similarly situated board members (i.e. this doesn't
   extend to the chair, for multiple reasons, but one of them is that none
   of us are similarly situated).  That creates the potential for
   conflict.
   I acknowledge that the ED and chair knew.  Everyone knew, apparently,
   except the board.  Conflicted transactions require authorization of the
   disinterested board members, with full disclosure, and that's what
   wasn't done.  That also wasn't your job to do.  It should have been
   presented to us by staff.  I'm not talking about your potential
   conflict of interest report, I'm talking about the transaction
   itself.
   I'm not terribly interested in recriminations, though.  What I am
   interested in is, moving forward, understanding this norm and applying
   it to such transactions, and everyone involved seeing the potential for
   conflicts here.

   Joshua A. Katz
   On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

        As to disclosure issue- it was approved by the ED.  The Chair was
     in
        that loop.  The whole arc of fundraising was to start involving
     board
        members more.
        Considering I disclosed pennies on a steemit video this certainly
     is
        not some grand omission.  When I am given official sanction to do
        something by the Party - and everything is approved by Chair or
        Treasurer - it isn’t something that is a conflict which is to
     disclose
        unknown or potentially unknown things.  The Party asked me.  It
     is on
        financial statements.  The Chair and Treasurer were aware. I
     openly
        talked about it on Facebook.
        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:10 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
        <[1][2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
        Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read something
     sinister
        but not everything.
        My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions of that.
        I have already clearly stated here that recruitment trips are
     just that
        and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I would
     spend my
        time.  Which I do at every event.
        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
        <[2][3]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
             I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points, although I'd
          emphasize that
             my issue is more about disclosure of potential issues to the
          board
             ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I see
     here.  I
             explained some, I can find more.  The solution to that is,
     in the
             future, disclosure to the board of transactions involving
     LNC
          members,
             and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I am
     writing to
             express disagreement with one point:  I almost always
     disagree
          with
             clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual malfeasance.
     I
          would
             disagree with requesting the return of funds or stopping
     funds in
             progress.
             Joshua A. Katz
             On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn

           <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
             Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying that I was
        shocked
             to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to attend
   state
             conventions within their own region.
             Dear LNC,
                  Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
        members by
                  attending state conventions and getting people to join
   or
             renew.
                  At first, she did this at state conventions she was
        attending
             in her
                  region at her own expense.
             I've no problem with this. LNC representatives often attend
        state
             conventions within their own region, and if she works to
   boost
             national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
                  Her results were so strong that I asked her if she would
        be
             willing
                  to go to some other states outside of her region to do
        similar
                  fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
        reimbursed.
             < This is something that should have been told to the LNC,
   and
        even
             discussed.  Why are we only finding this out, after someone
             inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
                  We have been struggling to keep membership from falling.
        We
             send
                  renewal emails and renewal letters that perform
   reasonably
        well
             but
                  pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we try
   have
        very
             low
                  ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
                  Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention last
        weekend
             and
                  recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the national
        LP.
                  That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her for her
             travel.
              I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
        Representatives
             will attend state conventions within their region.  If any of
        them
             do membership recruiting for national while there, that's
        something
             they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn Ann
   wouldn't
        have
             tried to boost membership at a state convention within her
        region,
             if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.  This was
             something she was doing as she chose to do, while attending
             conventions within her own region. This isn't something that
   an
        LNC
             member should be reimbursed for. <<<
                  I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state conventions to
        have
             her do
                  this work. No one else has done this as successfully as
        Caryn
             Ann.
                  Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for her
   time.
             Wes, you don't know what others have done regarding
   recruiting,
        as
             most people do it as a normal part of being in the LP.  I,
   nor
        most
             others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to join the LP,
        as I
             see it as a given this is done.<<<
             Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has let national
             membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with the national
        LP.  At
             my last state convention, our officers said that they want
        people to
             keep state memberships current, but national doesn't do
        anything for
             them, so they don't care much about that.  I had to mention
        that our
             delegate count is tied to national membership, and since
   then,
        I
             followed -up on that, but our numbers still have dropped.
   I've
        been
             thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is successful
   in
             reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers are
        passionate
             about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because anyone  is
   being
             reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.  (My state
        isn't the
             only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
                  For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take the
   time
        to
             attend,
                  I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The thing
        with
             Jess
                  is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend, and
        return
             from
                  state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of a
   ROI.
              I personally wouldn't send anyone to state conventions to
        boost
             national membership, if the national LP is paying for it.
        Instead,
             we should work to create a better LP that's responsive to
   it's
             members and the public, and we grow through people seeking to
        join
             us.  Organic growth.<<<
                  I received a complaint today that it is inappropriate
   for
             someone
                  running for a position on the LNC to have travel
        reimbursed.
                  I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think it's a
             violation
                  of our policies.
             It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn Ann Harlos
   for
             traveling to state conventions within her own region, the LP
   is
             subsidizing her efforts as a regional representative. This is
             inappropriate.<<<
                  Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
        feedback. If
             you
                  request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any other
        LNC
             member
                  to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
        dues-paying
                  members, we can end the program.
             Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC members for
        travel to
             state conventions within their own region.  I also am
        requesting
             that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement costs of
   any
        state
             conventions she attended within her region.
             As for "sending her" to other state conventions, this should
   be
             discussed by the LNC.<<<
                  A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go to
        state
                  convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
        members--why
             don't
                  you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved her
             willingness
                  and capability within her own region. No other LNC
   members
        have
                  mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members from
        their
                  states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together are not able
   to
             attend
                  every state convention. If you are interested in
   helping,
        and
                  willing to prove your ability first at a state in your
        region
             or at
                  another state at your own expense, let me know and we
        might be
             able
                  to try that. And then we can report the results.
              Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership due to a FB
        post
             that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that he's the
   reason
        she
             renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for quite a
        number of
             people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an excellent
        advocate
             for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to find someone
        who's out
             there building up hope in the LP, and getting people on
   board,
        he's
             the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as Andy doesn't
        seek
             to be recognized for his efforts, he probably sees it as
   normal
        for
             people who support the LP.
             Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep track of how
        many
             people they've recruited.  So, your statement asking people
   to
             "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
             (truncated)
             ---
             Elizabeth Van Horn
           On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
             Dear LNC,
                  Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
        members by
                  attending state conventions and getting people to join
   or
             renew.
                  At first, she did this at state conventions she was
        attending
             in her
                  region at her own expense.
                  Her results were so strong that I asked her if she would
        be
             willing
                  to go to some other states outside of her region to do
        similar
                  fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
        reimbursed.
                  We have been struggling to keep membership from falling.
        We
             send
                  renewal emails and renewal letters that perform
   reasonably
        well
             but
                  pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we try
   have
        very
             low
                  ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
                  Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention last
        weekend
             and
                  recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the national
        LP.
                  That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her for her
             travel.
                  I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state conventions to
        have
             her do
                  this work. No one else has done this as successfully as
        Caryn
             Ann.
                  Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for her
   time.
                  For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take the
   time
        to
             attend,
                  I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The thing
        with
             Jess
                  is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend, and
        return
             from
                  state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of a
   ROI.
                  I received a complaint today that it is inappropriate
   for
             someone
                  running for a position on the LNC to have travel
        reimbursed.
                  I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think it's a
             violation
                  of our policies.
                  Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
        feedback. If
             you
                  request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any other
        LNC
             member
                  to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
        dues-paying
                  members, we can end the program.
                  A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go to
        state
                  convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
        members--why
             don't
                  you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved her
             willingness
                  and capability within her own region. No other LNC
   members
        have
                  mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members from
        their
                  states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together are not
   able
        to
             attend
                  every state convention. If you are interested in
   helping,
        and
                  willing to prove your ability first at a state in your
        region
             or at
                  another state at your own expense, let me know and we
        might be
             able
                  to try that. And then we can report the results.
                  Below is a report from Robert Kraus with some of the
             fundraising
                  results from Caryn Ann.
                  I welcome your feedback.
             Wes Benedict, Executive Director
             Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
             1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314

               [3][5](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
     [1][4][4][6]wes.benedict at lp.org
               [2][5][5][7]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
               Join the Libertarian Party at:
          [3][6][6][8]http://lp.org/membership
                  -------- Forwarded Message --------
                  Subject: Harlos Fundraising
                     Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500

                   From: Robert S. Kraus [4]<[7][7][9]robert.kraus at lp.org>
                     To: Wes Benedict [5]<[8][8][10]wes.benedict at lp.org>
             I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total of $2,335.00
        for 82
             members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks have also
        contributed
             a
             net total excluding conv related gifts of $6,261.74 since
   2016
             convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation of course so
        she has
             her
             fans)
             In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the $12,120
        raised for
             Historic Preservation
             Finally she has given $2181 herself since the 2016 convention
        (non
             convention related - however $1525 was for Hist Preservation)
             --
             Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
             [6]Operations at LP.org
             Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
             1444 Duke Street
             Alexandria, VA 22314
             Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
             References

                  1. mailto:[11][9][11]wes.benedict at lp.org
                  2. [12][10][12]http://facebook.com/libertarians
                  3. [13][11][13]http://lp.org/membership
                  4. mailto:[14][12][14]robert.kraus at lp.org
                  5. mailto:[15][13][15]wes.benedict at lp.org
                  6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
          References
             1. mailto:[14][16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
             2.
          [15][17]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+
     together+are+n&e
          ntry=gmail&source=g
             3. tel:[18](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
             4. mailto:[16][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
             5. [17][20]http://facebook.com/libertarians
             6. [18][21]http://lp.org/membership
             7. mailto:[19][22]robert.kraus at lp.org
             8. mailto:[20][23]wes.benedict at lp.org
             9.
          [21][24]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+
     for+a+tota
          l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
            10. tel:[25]202.333.0008 x 231
            11. mailto:[22][26]wes.benedict at lp.org
            12. [23][27]http://facebook.com/libertarians
            13. [24][28]http://lp.org/membership
            14. mailto:[25][29]robert.kraus at lp.org
            15. mailto:[26][30]wes.benedict at lp.org
            16. mailto:[27]Operations at LP.org
     References
        1. mailto:[31]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
        2. mailto:[32]planning4liberty at gmail.com
        3. mailto:[33]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
        4. mailto:[34]wes.benedict at lp.org
        5. [35]http://facebook.com/libertarians
        6. [36]http://lp.org/membership
        7. mailto:[37]robert.kraus at lp.org
        8. mailto:[38]wes.benedict at lp.org
        9. mailto:[39]wes.benedict at lp.org
       10. [40]http://facebook.com/libertarians
       11. [41]http://lp.org/membership
       12. mailto:[42]robert.kraus at lp.org
       13. mailto:[43]wes.benedict at lp.org
       14. mailto:[44]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
       15. [45]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+
     are+n&entry=gmail&source=g
       16. mailto:[46]wes.benedict at lp.org
       17. [47]http://facebook.com/libertarians
       18. [48]http://lp.org/membership
       19. mailto:[49]robert.kraus at lp.org
       20. mailto:[50]wes.benedict at lp.org
       21. [51]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+
     for+a+total+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g

     22. mailto:[52]wes.benedict at lp.org
     23. [53]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     24. [54]http://lp.org/membership
     25. mailto:[55]robert.kraus at lp.org
     26. mailto:[56]wes.benedict at lp.org
     27. mailto:[57]Operations at LP.org

References

   1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   3. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
   4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
   5. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
   6. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
   7. http://facebook.com/libertarians
   8. http://lp.org/membership
   9. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
  10. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  11. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  12. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  13. http://lp.org/membership
  14. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
  15. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  17. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
  18. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
  19. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  20. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  21. http://lp.org/membership
  22. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
  23. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  24. https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
  25. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
  26. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  27. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  28. http://lp.org/membership
  29. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
  30. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  31. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
  32. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
  33. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  34. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  35. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  36. http://lp.org/membership
  37. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
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  41. http://lp.org/membership
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  44. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  45. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&entry=gmail&source=g
  46. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  47. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  48. http://lp.org/membership
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  51. https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+total+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
  52. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
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