[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Fri Feb 23 19:13:31 EST 2018
Actually this board does know me. I have served nearly a full term with
them. Your predecessors knew me well. And this idea for fundraising was
put in motion before you were on the LNC. In fact - I think it WAS
mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break time about innovative
fundraising. I could be wrong but I think Wes did mention it (he would
know that better than I) It could only be executed once conventions
started. My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t forsee that Regions would be
vacated and some would think that I had to prove myself to them anew.
I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people were ready to
> assume that was true. I was not because I know you and others did not.
>
> There is nothing more to say on the exchange here. You think it was
> perfectly appropriate and I don’t. More digital ink will not change that.
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather than openly
>> “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
>>
>> I followed our policy. I openly discussed this on FB. It is in every
>> financial report.
>>
>> It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
>>
>> There was no lack of transparency that I saw. I told the members at each
>> convention that my trip was paid. Fundraising is under the direction of
>> the ED and I followed that.
>>
>> Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not some unusual
>> thing. My time was donated. The expense to move my body (the equipment)
>> to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part of fundraising.
>>
>> And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault. It doesn’t end
>> does it.
>>
>> So I’ll end it. I’ve said what I wish to on that “question” of my “odd
>> and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that answers your
>> question on that front.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And if it is spleen venting time well good. I step forward to every
>>> challenge I can. Staff knows they can call me at any time with an
>>> emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it. If staff
>>> called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever] tomorrow can you
>>> meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
>>>
>>> My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully earned.
>>>
>>> There is nothing that was done outside of our rules. If the LNC
>>> believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they should do it.
>>>
>>> But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my propriety.
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have to be voted
>>>> on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of micromanagement we wallow in.
>>>>
>>>> We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m. We said last meeting
>>>> that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to test. He
>>>> followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
>>>>
>>>> I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal) this
>>>> season. We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect the intentions
>>>> of our peers instead.
>>>>
>>>> I followed procedure and the Policy Manual. I don’t have a crystal
>>>> ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m not going to devolve into those arguments. It was an
>>>>> inappropriate insinuation. Which you just followed with another one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I followed protocol as I understood it. This was in the discretion of
>>>>> the ED. The Chair and Treasurer approves. Staff was openly coordinating
>>>>> with me. There was absolutely nothing that would have anticipated this to
>>>>> me as the day to day managers of the Party approved.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about pennies on
>>>>> steemit.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that could involve
>>>>> you that was disturbing. I asked you directly and it confirmed my judgment
>>>>> of you that you wouldn’t condone.
>>>>>
>>>>> You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
>>>>> povertaruans suffered. That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see that
>>>>> if you don’t and I won’t spend further time trying. A comment of mine
>>>>> about donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd at all
>>>>> ) was twisted into something “disturbing” - couching it with “I wonder”
>>>>> doesn’t change that fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was a low comment. If it were made to you you would be
>>>>> requesting me to call it out. And I frankly would.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>>>>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question. As for the courtesy
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been avoided,
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>> > Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward at
>>>>>> > least with my volunteering on this. I will decline.
>>>>>> > I will do things on my own as I have done. Less effectively and
>>>>>> > less
>>>>>> > often but more peacefully.
>>>>>> > My integrity is my highest possession and to have an insinuation
>>>>>> > stated
>>>>>> > by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
>>>>>> cutoff
>>>>>> > point.
>>>>>> > It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and eat
>>>>>> > their
>>>>>> > own.
>>>>>> > QED.
>>>>>> > I never thought I would regret my recruiting success. The LP has
>>>>>> > surprised me once again.
>>>>>> > -Caryn Ann
>>>>>> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>> > <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister, not
>>>>>> I.
>>>>>> > You wrote:
>>>>>> > " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
>>>>>> Which
>>>>>> > I
>>>>>> > do
>>>>>> > at every event."
>>>>>> > In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > LP.
>>>>>> > Glad we're in agreement.
>>>>>> > ---
>>>>>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>> > On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>> > > Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> > sinister
>>>>>> > > but not everything.
>>>>>> > > My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > that.
>>>>>> > > I have already clearly stated here that recruitment trips
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > just
>>>>>> > > that
>>>>>> > > and nothing more. My comment was simply and only how I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> > spend
>>>>>> > > my
>>>>>> > > time. Which I do at every event.
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
>>>>>> > > <[1][2]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points, although
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> > > emphasize that
>>>>>> > > my issue is more about disclosure of potential
>>>>>> issues to
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > > board
>>>>>> > > ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> > here. I
>>>>>> > > explained some, I can find more. The solution to
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> > is,
>>>>>> > in
>>>>>> > > the
>>>>>> > > future, disclosure to the board of transactions
>>>>>> > involving
>>>>>> > LNC
>>>>>> > > members,
>>>>>> > > and the orientation I mentioned earlier. Anyway, I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> > writing
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> > > express disagreement with one point: I almost always
>>>>>> > disagree
>>>>>> > > with
>>>>>> > > clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
>>>>>> > malfeasance. I
>>>>>> > > would
>>>>>> > > disagree with requesting the return of funds or
>>>>>> stopping
>>>>>> > funds
>>>>>> > > in
>>>>>> > > progress.
>>>>>> > > Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>> > > <[1][2][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > > Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> > I
>>>>>> > was
>>>>>> > > shocked
>>>>>> > > to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
>>>>>> > attend
>>>>>> > > state
>>>>>> > > conventions within their own region.
>>>>>> > > Dear LNC,
>>>>>> > > Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>>>>> > dues-paying
>>>>>> > > members by
>>>>>> > > attending state conventions and getting
>>>>>> people to
>>>>>> > join
>>>>>> > > or
>>>>>> > > renew.
>>>>>> > > At first, she did this at state conventions
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> > was
>>>>>> > > attending
>>>>>> > > in her
>>>>>> > > region at her own expense.
>>>>>> > > I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
>>>>>> often
>>>>>> > attend
>>>>>> > > state
>>>>>> > > conventions within their own region, and if she
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > > boost
>>>>>> > > national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
>>>>>> > > Her results were so strong that I asked her if
>>>>>> > she
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > > be
>>>>>> > > willing
>>>>>> > > to go to some other states outside of her
>>>>>> region
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > do
>>>>>> > > similar
>>>>>> > > fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> > > reimbursed.
>>>>>> > > < This is something that should have been told to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > LNC,
>>>>>> > > and
>>>>>> > > even
>>>>>> > > discussed. Why are we only finding this out, after
>>>>>> > someone
>>>>>> > > inquired? Where's the transparency?<<<
>>>>>> > > We have been struggling to keep membership
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> > falling.
>>>>>> > > We
>>>>>> > > send
>>>>>> > > renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>>>>> perform
>>>>>> > > reasonably
>>>>>> > > well
>>>>>> > > but
>>>>>> > > pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>>>>> methods we
>>>>>> > try
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > very
>>>>>> > > low
>>>>>> > > ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>>>>> > strong.
>>>>>> > > Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>>>>> > convention
>>>>>> > last
>>>>>> > > weekend
>>>>>> > > and
>>>>>> > > recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > > LP.
>>>>>> > > That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> > for her
>>>>>> > > travel.
>>>>>> > > I have a problem with this. Many LNC Regional
>>>>>> > > Representatives
>>>>>> > > will attend state conventions within their
>>>>>> region. If
>>>>>> > any of
>>>>>> > > them
>>>>>> > > do membership recruiting for national while there,
>>>>>> > that's
>>>>>> > > something
>>>>>> > > they choose to do. Are you suggesting that Caryn
>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>> > > wouldn't
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > tried to boost membership at a state convention
>>>>>> within
>>>>>> > her
>>>>>> > > region,
>>>>>> > > if she wasn't reimbursed? Because, I doubt that.
>>>>>> > This
>>>>>> > was
>>>>>> > > something she was doing as she chose to do, while
>>>>>> > attending
>>>>>> > > conventions within her own region. This isn't
>>>>>> > something
>>>>>> > that
>>>>>> > > an
>>>>>> > > LNC
>>>>>> > > member should be reimbursed for. <<<
>>>>>> > > I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>>>>> > conventions to
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > her do
>>>>>> > > this work. No one else has done this as
>>>>>> > successfully as
>>>>>> > > Caryn
>>>>>> > > Ann.
>>>>>> > > Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > her
>>>>>> > > time.
>>>>>> > > Wes, you don't know what others have done regarding
>>>>>> > > recruiting,
>>>>>> > > as
>>>>>> > > most people do it as a normal part of being in the
>>>>>> LP.
>>>>>> > I,
>>>>>> > > nor
>>>>>> > > most
>>>>>> > > others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
>>>>>> join
>>>>>> > the LP,
>>>>>> > > as I
>>>>>> > > see it as a given this is done.<<<
>>>>>> > > Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has let
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > > membership drop? Because, they're unhappy with the
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > > LP. At
>>>>>> > > my last state convention, our officers said that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> > want
>>>>>> > > people to
>>>>>> > > keep state memberships current, but national
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> > do
>>>>>> > > anything for
>>>>>> > > them, so they don't care much about that. I had to
>>>>>> > mention
>>>>>> > > that our
>>>>>> > > delegate count is tied to national membership, and
>>>>>> > since
>>>>>> > > then,
>>>>>> > > I
>>>>>> > > followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
>>>>>> > dropped.
>>>>>> > > I've
>>>>>> > > been
>>>>>> > > thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
>>>>>> > successful
>>>>>> > > in
>>>>>> > > reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > > passionate
>>>>>> > > about the LP and liberty actions. Not because
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> > is
>>>>>> > > being
>>>>>> > > reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
>>>>>> (My
>>>>>> > state
>>>>>> > > isn't the
>>>>>> > > only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
>>>>>> > > For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > > time
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> > > attend,
>>>>>> > > I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears.
>>>>>> > The
>>>>>> > thing
>>>>>> > > with
>>>>>> > > Jess
>>>>>> > > is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>>>>> > attend,
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > > return
>>>>>> > > from
>>>>>> > > state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> > of
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > > ROI.
>>>>>> > > I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
>>>>>> > conventions
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > > boost
>>>>>> > > national membership, if the national LP is paying
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > it.
>>>>>> > > Instead,
>>>>>> > > we should work to create a better LP that's
>>>>>> responsive
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > > it's
>>>>>> > > members and the public, and we grow through people
>>>>>> > seeking to
>>>>>> > > join
>>>>>> > > us. Organic growth.<<<
>>>>>> > > I received a complaint today that it is
>>>>>> > inappropriate
>>>>>> > > for
>>>>>> > > someone
>>>>>> > > running for a position on the LNC to have
>>>>>> travel
>>>>>> > > reimbursed.
>>>>>> > > I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> > it's a
>>>>>> > > violation
>>>>>> > > of our policies.
>>>>>> > > It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn Ann
>>>>>> > Harlos
>>>>>> > > for
>>>>>> > > traveling to state conventions within her own
>>>>>> region,
>>>>>> > the LP
>>>>>> > > is
>>>>>> > > subsidizing her efforts as a regional
>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>> > This is
>>>>>> > > inappropriate.<<<
>>>>>> > > Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> > > feedback. If
>>>>>> > > you
>>>>>> > > request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> > other
>>>>>> > > LNC
>>>>>> > > member
>>>>>> > > to state conventions for the purpose of
>>>>>> > recruiting
>>>>>> > > dues-paying
>>>>>> > > members, we can end the program.
>>>>>> > > Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
>>>>>> members
>>>>>> > for
>>>>>> > > travel to
>>>>>> > > state conventions within their own region. I also
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> > > requesting
>>>>>> > > that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
>>>>>> > costs
>>>>>> > of
>>>>>> > > any
>>>>>> > > state
>>>>>> > > conventions she attended within her region.
>>>>>> > > As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> > should
>>>>>> > > be
>>>>>> > > discussed by the LNC.<<<
>>>>>> > > A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > go
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > > state
>>>>>> > > convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>>>>> recruit
>>>>>> > > members--why
>>>>>> > > don't
>>>>>> > > you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>>>>> proved
>>>>>> > her
>>>>>> > > willingness
>>>>>> > > and capability within her own region. No other
>>>>>> > LNC
>>>>>> > > members
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>>>>> > members
>>>>>> > from
>>>>>> > > their
>>>>>> > > states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together are
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> > able
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> > > attend
>>>>>> > > every state convention. If you are interested
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> > > helping,
>>>>>> > > and
>>>>>> > > willing to prove your ability first at a
>>>>>> state in
>>>>>> > your
>>>>>> > > region
>>>>>> > > or at
>>>>>> > > another state at your own expense, let me know
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > we
>>>>>> > > might be
>>>>>> > > able
>>>>>> > > to try that. And then we can report the
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>> > > Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
>>>>>> due to
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > FB
>>>>>> > > post
>>>>>> > > that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that he's
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > > reason
>>>>>> > > she
>>>>>> > > renewed) I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
>>>>>> > quite
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > > number of
>>>>>> > > people renewing or joining the LP. As Andy's an
>>>>>> > excellent
>>>>>> > > advocate
>>>>>> > > for the cause that is the LP. If you want to find
>>>>>> > someone
>>>>>> > > who's out
>>>>>> > > there building up hope in the LP, and getting
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> > on
>>>>>> > > board,
>>>>>> > > he's
>>>>>> > > the one. You probably don't know this stuff, as
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> > doesn't
>>>>>> > > seek
>>>>>> > > to be recognized for his efforts, he probably sees
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> > as
>>>>>> > > normal
>>>>>> > > for
>>>>>> > > people who support the LP.
>>>>>> > > Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> > of
>>>>>> > how
>>>>>> > > many
>>>>>> > > people they've recruited. So, your statement
>>>>>> asking
>>>>>> > people
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> > > "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
>>>>>> > > (truncated)
>>>>>> > > ---
>>>>>> > > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>> > > On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>>>> > > Dear LNC,
>>>>>> > > Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>>>>> > dues-paying
>>>>>> > > members by
>>>>>> > > attending state conventions and getting
>>>>>> people to
>>>>>> > join
>>>>>> > > or
>>>>>> > > renew.
>>>>>> > > At first, she did this at state conventions
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> > was
>>>>>> > > attending
>>>>>> > > in her
>>>>>> > > region at her own expense.
>>>>>> > > Her results were so strong that I asked her if
>>>>>> > she
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > > be
>>>>>> > > willing
>>>>>> > > to go to some other states outside of her
>>>>>> region
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > do
>>>>>> > > similar
>>>>>> > > fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> > > reimbursed.
>>>>>> > > We have been struggling to keep membership
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> > falling.
>>>>>> > > We
>>>>>> > > send
>>>>>> > > renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>>>>> perform
>>>>>> > > reasonably
>>>>>> > > well
>>>>>> > > but
>>>>>> > > pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>>>>> methods we
>>>>>> > try
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > very
>>>>>> > > low
>>>>>> > > ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>>>>> > strong.
>>>>>> > > Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>>>>> > convention
>>>>>> > last
>>>>>> > > weekend
>>>>>> > > and
>>>>>> > > recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > > LP.
>>>>>> > > That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> > for her
>>>>>> > > travel.
>>>>>> > > I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>>>>> > conventions to
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > her do
>>>>>> > > this work. No one else has done this as
>>>>>> > successfully as
>>>>>> > > Caryn
>>>>>> > > Ann.
>>>>>> > > Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > her
>>>>>> > > time.
>>>>>> > > For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > > time
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> > > attend,
>>>>>> > > I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears.
>>>>>> > The
>>>>>> > thing
>>>>>> > > with
>>>>>> > > Jess
>>>>>> > > is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>>>>> > attend,
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > > return
>>>>>> > > from
>>>>>> > > state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> > of
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > > ROI.
>>>>>> > > I received a complaint today that it is
>>>>>> > inappropriate
>>>>>> > > for
>>>>>> > > someone
>>>>>> > > running for a position on the LNC to have
>>>>>> travel
>>>>>> > > reimbursed.
>>>>>> > > I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> > it's a
>>>>>> > > violation
>>>>>> > > of our policies.
>>>>>> > > Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> > > feedback. If
>>>>>> > > you
>>>>>> > > request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> > other
>>>>>> > > LNC
>>>>>> > > member
>>>>>> > > to state conventions for the purpose of
>>>>>> > recruiting
>>>>>> > > dues-paying
>>>>>> > > members, we can end the program.
>>>>>> > > A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > go
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > > state
>>>>>> > > convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>>>>> recruit
>>>>>> > > members--why
>>>>>> > > don't
>>>>>> > > you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>>>>> proved
>>>>>> > her
>>>>>> > > willingness
>>>>>> > > and capability within her own region. No other
>>>>>> > LNC
>>>>>> > > members
>>>>>> > > have
>>>>>> > > mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>>>>> > members
>>>>>> > from
>>>>>> > > their
>>>>>> > > states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > not
>>>>>> > > able
>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>> > > attend
>>>>>> > > every state convention. If you are interested
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> > > helping,
>>>>>> > > and
>>>>>> > > willing to prove your ability first at a
>>>>>> state in
>>>>>> > your
>>>>>> > > region
>>>>>> > > or at
>>>>>> > > another state at your own expense, let me know
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > we
>>>>>> > > might be
>>>>>> > > able
>>>>>> > > to try that. And then we can report the
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>> > > Below is a report from Robert Kraus with some
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > > fundraising
>>>>>> > > results from Caryn Ann.
>>>>>> > > I welcome your feedback.
>>>>>> > > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>>>>> > > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>> > > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>> > > [3](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>>>>>> > [1][4][3][4]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > [2][5][4][5]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>>>>> > > Join the Libertarian Party at:
>>>>>> > > [3][6][5][6]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> > > Subject: Harlos Fundraising
>>>>>> > > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
>>>>>> > > From: Robert S. Kraus
>>>>>> > [4]<[7][6][7]robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>>>>> > > To: Wes Benedict
>>>>>> > [5]<[8][7][8]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>>>>> > > I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total of
>>>>>> > $2,335.00
>>>>>> > > for 82
>>>>>> > > members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks have
>>>>>> > also
>>>>>> > > contributed
>>>>>> > > a
>>>>>> > > net total excluding conv related gifts of $6,261.74
>>>>>> > since
>>>>>> > > 2016
>>>>>> > > convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation of
>>>>>> > course so
>>>>>> > > she has
>>>>>> > > her
>>>>>> > > fans)
>>>>>> > > In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
>>>>>> > $12,120
>>>>>> > > raised for
>>>>>> > > Historic Preservation
>>>>>> > > Finally she has given $2181 herself since the 2016
>>>>>> > convention
>>>>>> > > (non
>>>>>> > > convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
>>>>>> > Preservation)
>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>> > > Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
>>>>>> > > [6]Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> > > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>> > > 1444 Duke Street
>>>>>> > > Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>> > > Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
>>>>>> > > References
>>>>>> > > 1. mailto:[11][8][9]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 2. [12][9][10]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 3. [13][10][11]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 4. mailto:[14][11][12]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 5. mailto:[15][12][13]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> > > References
>>>>>> > > 1. mailto:[13][14]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 2.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > [14][15]
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
>>>>>> > +n&e
>>>>>> > > ntry=gmail&source=g
>>>>>> > > 3. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>>>>>> > > 4. mailto:[15][16]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 5. [16][17]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 6. [17][18]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 7. mailto:[18][19]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 8. mailto:[19][20]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 9.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > [20][21]
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+
>>>>>> > tota
>>>>>> > > l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>>>> > > 10. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
>>>>>> > > 11. mailto:[21][22]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 12. [22][23]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 13. [23][24]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 14. mailto:[24][25]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 15. mailto:[25][26]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > References
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > 1. mailto:[27]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>>>> > > 2. mailto:[28]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 3. mailto:[29]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 4. [30]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 5. [31]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 6. mailto:[32]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 7. mailto:[33]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 8. mailto:[34]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 9. [35]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 10. [36]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 11. mailto:[37]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 12. mailto:[38]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 13. mailto:[39]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 14.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > [40]
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>>>>>> > ntry=gmail&source=g
>>>>>> > > 15. mailto:[41]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 16. [42]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 17. [43]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 18. mailto:[44]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 19. mailto:[45]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 20.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > [46]
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
>>>>>> > l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>>>> > > 21. mailto:[47]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 22. [48]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > > 23. [49]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > > 24. mailto:[50]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 25. mailto:[51]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > > 26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > References
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > 2. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>>>> > 3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > 4. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 5. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 6. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 7. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 8. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 9. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 10. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 11. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 12. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 13. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 14. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > 15.
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>>>>>> > 16. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 17. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 18. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 19. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 20. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 21.
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
>>>>>> > 22. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 23. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 24. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 25. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 26. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 27. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>>>> > 28. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > 29. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 30. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 31. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 32. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 33. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 34. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 35. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 36. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 37. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 38. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 39. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> > 40.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>>>> > 41. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 42. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 43. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 44. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 45. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 46.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+total+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>>>>> > 47. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 48. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>> > 49. http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> > 50. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>>>>>> > 51. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> > 52. mailto:Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>
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Actually this board does know me. I have served nearly a full term
with them. Your predecessors knew me well. And this idea for
fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC. In fact - I
think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break time about
innovative fundraising. I could be wrong but I think Wes did mention
it (he would know that better than I) It could only be executed once
conventions started. My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t forsee that
Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had to prove
myself to them anew.
I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people were ready to
assume that was true. I was not because I know you and others did not.
There is nothing more to say on the exchange here. You think it was
perfectly appropriate and I don’t. More digital ink will not change
that.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather than
openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
I followed our policy. I openly discussed this on FB. It is in every
financial report.
It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
There was no lack of transparency that I saw. I told the members at
each convention that my trip was paid. Fundraising is under the
direction of the ED and I followed that.
Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not some unusual
thing. My time was donated. The expense to move my body (the
equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part of
fundraising.
And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault. It doesn’t
end does it.
So I’ll end it. I’ve said what I wish to on that “question” of my “odd
and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that answers your
question on that front.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
And if it is spleen venting time well good. I step forward to every
challenge I can. Staff knows they can call me at any time with an
emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it. If staff
called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever] tomorrow can
you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully earned.
There is nothing that was done outside of our rules. If the LNC
believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they should do
it.
But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my propriety.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have to be voted
on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of micromanagement we
wallow in.
We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m. We said last meeting
that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to test. He
followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal) this
season. We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect the
intentions of our peers instead.
I followed procedure and the Policy Manual. I don’t have a crystal
ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I’m not going to devolve into those arguments. It was an inappropriate
insinuation. Which you just followed with another one.
I followed protocol as I understood it. This was in the discretion of
the ED. The Chair and Treasurer approves. Staff was openly
coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that would have
anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the Party
approved.
I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about pennies on
steemit.
A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that could involve
you that was disturbing. I asked you directly and it confirmed my
judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while povertaruans
suffered. That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see that if you
don’t and I won’t spend further time trying. A comment of mine about
donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd at all )
was twisted into something “disturbing” - couching it with “I wonder”
doesn’t change that fact.
That was a low comment. If it were made to you you would be requesting
me to call it out. And I frankly would.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
<[6]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question. As for the courtesy
of a
direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been avoided,
with
the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward
at
> least with my volunteering on this. I will decline.
> I will do things on my own as I have done. Less effectively
and
> less
> often but more peacefully.
> My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
insinuation
> stated
> by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
cutoff
> point.
> It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and
eat
> their
> own.
> QED.
> I never thought I would regret my recruiting success. The LP
has
> surprised me once again.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> <[1][7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister,
not I.
> You wrote:
> " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
Which
> I
> do
> at every event."
> In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
> national
> LP.
> Glad we're in agreement.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
something
> sinister
> > but not everything.
> > My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
of
> that.
> > I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
trips are
> just
> > that
> > and nothing more. My comment was simply and only how I
would
> spend
> > my
> > time. Which I do at every event.
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
> > <[1][2][8]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
although I'd
> > emphasize that
> > my issue is more about disclosure of potential
issues to
> the
> > board
> > ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
see
> here. I
> > explained some, I can find more. The solution to
that
> is,
> in
> > the
> > future, disclosure to the board of transactions
> involving
> LNC
> > members,
> > and the orientation I mentioned earlier. Anyway, I
am
> writing
> > to
> > express disagreement with one point: I almost
always
> disagree
> > with
> > clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
> malfeasance. I
> > would
> > disagree with requesting the return of funds or
stopping
> funds
> > in
> > progress.
> > Joshua A. Katz
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
> > <[1][2][3][9]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> > Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
that
> I
> was
> > shocked
> > to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
> attend
> > state
> > conventions within their own region.
> > Dear LNC,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
> dues-paying
> > members by
> > attending state conventions and getting
people to
> join
> > or
> > renew.
> > At first, she did this at state conventions
she
> was
> > attending
> > in her
> > region at her own expense.
> > I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
often
> attend
> > state
> > conventions within their own region, and if she
works
> to
> > boost
> > national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
> > Her results were so strong that I asked her
if
> she
> would
> > be
> > willing
> > to go to some other states outside of her
region
> to
> do
> > similar
> > fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
were
> > reimbursed.
> > < This is something that should have been told to
the
> LNC,
> > and
> > even
> > discussed. Why are we only finding this out,
after
> someone
> > inquired? Where's the transparency?<<<
> > We have been struggling to keep membership
from
> falling.
> > We
> > send
> > renewal emails and renewal letters that
perform
> > reasonably
> > well
> > but
> > pretty much exhaust that method. Other
methods we
> try
> > have
> > very
> > low
> > ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
> strong.
> > Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
> convention
> last
> > weekend
> > and
> > recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
the
> national
> > LP.
> > That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
her
> for her
> > travel.
> > I have a problem with this. Many LNC Regional
> > Representatives
> > will attend state conventions within their
region. If
> any of
> > them
> > do membership recruiting for national while
there,
> that's
> > something
> > they choose to do. Are you suggesting that Caryn
Ann
> > wouldn't
> > have
> > tried to boost membership at a state convention
within
> her
> > region,
> > if she wasn't reimbursed? Because, I doubt that.
> This
> was
> > something she was doing as she chose to do, while
> attending
> > conventions within her own region. This isn't
> something
> that
> > an
> > LNC
> > member should be reimbursed for. <<<
> > I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
> conventions to
> > have
> > her do
> > this work. No one else has done this as
> successfully as
> > Caryn
> > Ann.
> > Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
for
> her
> > time.
> > Wes, you don't know what others have done
regarding
> > recruiting,
> > as
> > most people do it as a normal part of being in
the LP.
> I,
> > nor
> > most
> > others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
join
> the LP,
> > as I
> > see it as a given this is done.<<<
> > Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
let
> national
> > membership drop? Because, they're unhappy with
the
> national
> > LP. At
> > my last state convention, our officers said that
they
> want
> > people to
> > keep state memberships current, but national
doesn't
> do
> > anything for
> > them, so they don't care much about that. I had
to
> mention
> > that our
> > delegate count is tied to national membership,
and
> since
> > then,
> > I
> > followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
> dropped.
> > I've
> > been
> > thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
> successful
> > in
> > reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
are
> > passionate
> > about the LP and liberty actions. Not because
anyone
> is
> > being
> > reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
(My
> state
> > isn't the
> > only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
> > For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
take
> the
> > time
> > to
> > attend,
> > I will be sending our staff member Jess
Mears.
> The
> thing
> > with
> > Jess
> > is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
> attend,
> and
> > return
> > from
> > state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
high
> of
> a
> > ROI.
> > I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
> conventions
> to
> > boost
> > national membership, if the national LP is paying
for
> it.
> > Instead,
> > we should work to create a better LP that's
responsive
> to
> > it's
> > members and the public, and we grow through
people
> seeking to
> > join
> > us. Organic growth.<<<
> > I received a complaint today that it is
> inappropriate
> > for
> > someone
> > running for a position on the LNC to have
travel
> > reimbursed.
> > I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
think
> it's a
> > violation
> > of our policies.
> > It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
Ann
> Harlos
> > for
> > traveling to state conventions within her own
region,
> the LP
> > is
> > subsidizing her efforts as a regional
representative.
> This is
> > inappropriate.<<<
> > Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
your
> > feedback. If
> > you
> > request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
or any
> other
> > LNC
> > member
> > to state conventions for the purpose of
> recruiting
> > dues-paying
> > members, we can end the program.
> > Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
members
> for
> > travel to
> > state conventions within their own region. I
also am
> > requesting
> > that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
> costs
> of
> > any
> > state
> > conventions she attended within her region.
> > As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
this
> should
> > be
> > discussed by the LNC.<<<
> > A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
to
> go
> to
> > state
> > convention at the expense of the LNC and
recruit
> > members--why
> > don't
> > you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
proved
> her
> > willingness
> > and capability within her own region. No
other
> LNC
> > members
> > have
> > mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
> members
> from
> > their
> > states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
are not
> able
> > to
> > attend
> > every state convention. If you are
interested in
> > helping,
> > and
> > willing to prove your ability first at a
state in
> your
> > region
> > or at
> > another state at your own expense, let me
know
> and
> we
> > might be
> > able
> > to try that. And then we can report the
results.
> > Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
due to
> a
> FB
> > post
> > that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
he's
> the
> > reason
> > she
> > renewed) I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
> quite
> a
> > number of
> > people renewing or joining the LP. As Andy's an
> excellent
> > advocate
> > for the cause that is the LP. If you want to
find
> someone
> > who's out
> > there building up hope in the LP, and getting
people
> on
> > board,
> > he's
> > the one. You probably don't know this stuff, as
Andy
> doesn't
> > seek
> > to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
sees it
> as
> > normal
> > for
> > people who support the LP.
> > Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
track
> of
> how
> > many
> > people they've recruited. So, your statement
asking
> people
> > to
> > "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
> > (truncated)
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
> > Dear LNC,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
> dues-paying
> > members by
> > attending state conventions and getting
people to
> join
> > or
> > renew.
> > At first, she did this at state conventions
she
> was
> > attending
> > in her
> > region at her own expense.
> > Her results were so strong that I asked her
if
> she
> would
> > be
> > willing
> > to go to some other states outside of her
region
> to
> do
> > similar
> > fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
were
> > reimbursed.
> > We have been struggling to keep membership
from
> falling.
> > We
> > send
> > renewal emails and renewal letters that
perform
> > reasonably
> > well
> > but
> > pretty much exhaust that method. Other
methods we
> try
> > have
> > very
> > low
> > ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
> strong.
> > Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
> convention
> last
> > weekend
> > and
> > recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
the
> national
> > LP.
> > That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
her
> for her
> > travel.
> > I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
> conventions to
> > have
> > her do
> > this work. No one else has done this as
> successfully as
> > Caryn
> > Ann.
> > Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
for
> her
> > time.
> > For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
take
> the
> > time
> > to
> > attend,
> > I will be sending our staff member Jess
Mears.
> The
> thing
> > with
> > Jess
> > is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
> attend,
> and
> > return
> > from
> > state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
high
> of
> a
> > ROI.
> > I received a complaint today that it is
> inappropriate
> > for
> > someone
> > running for a position on the LNC to have
travel
> > reimbursed.
> > I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
think
> it's a
> > violation
> > of our policies.
> > Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
your
> > feedback. If
> > you
> > request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
or any
> other
> > LNC
> > member
> > to state conventions for the purpose of
> recruiting
> > dues-paying
> > members, we can end the program.
> > A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
to
> go
> to
> > state
> > convention at the expense of the LNC and
recruit
> > members--why
> > don't
> > you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
proved
> her
> > willingness
> > and capability within her own region. No
other
> LNC
> > members
> > have
> > mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
> members
> from
> > their
> > states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
are
> not
> > able
> > to
> > attend
> > every state convention. If you are
interested in
> > helping,
> > and
> > willing to prove your ability first at a
state in
> your
> > region
> > or at
> > another state at your own expense, let me
know
> and
> we
> > might be
> > able
> > to try that. And then we can report the
results.
> > Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
some of
> the
> > fundraising
> > results from Caryn Ann.
> > I welcome your feedback.
> > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> > [3](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> [1][4][3][4][10]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > [2][5][4][5][11]facebook.com/libertarians
@LPNational
> > Join the Libertarian Party at:
> > [3][6][5][6][12]http://lp.org/membership
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: Harlos Fundraising
> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
> > From: Robert S. Kraus
> [4]<[7][6][7][13]robert.kraus at lp.org>
> > To: Wes Benedict
> [5]<[8][7][8][14]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> > I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
of
> $2,335.00
> > for 82
> > members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
have
> also
> > contributed
> > a
> > net total excluding conv related gifts of
$6,261.74
> since
> > 2016
> > convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
of
> course so
> > she has
> > her
> > fans)
> > In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
> $12,120
> > raised for
> > Historic Preservation
> > Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
2016
> convention
> > (non
> > convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
> Preservation)
> > --
> > Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
> > [6]Operations at LP.org
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke Street
> > Alexandria, VA 22314
> > Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[11][8][9][15]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 2.
[12][9][10][16]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 3. [13][10][11][17]http://lp.org/membership
> > 4. mailto:[14][11][12][18]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 5. mailto:[15][12][13][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[13][14][20]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> > 2.
> >
> >
>
>
[14][15][21]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together
+are
> +n&e
> > ntry=gmail&source=g
> > 3. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 4. mailto:[15][16][22]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 5. [16][17][23]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 6. [17][18][24]http://lp.org/membership
> > 7. mailto:[18][19][25]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 8. mailto:[19][20][26]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 9.
> >
> >
>
>
[20][21][27]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+fo
r+a+
> tota
> > l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
> > 10. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
> > 11. mailto:[21][22][28]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 12. [22][23][29]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 13. [23][24][30]http://lp.org/membership
> > 14. mailto:[24][25][31]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 15. mailto:[25][26][32]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[27][33]planning4liberty at gmail.com
> > 2. mailto:[28][34]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> > 3. mailto:[29][35]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 4. [30][36]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 5. [31][37]http://lp.org/membership
> > 6. mailto:[32][38]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 7. mailto:[33][39]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 8. mailto:[34][40]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 9. [35][41]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 10. [36][42]http://lp.org/membership
> > 11. mailto:[37][43]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 12. mailto:[38][44]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 13. mailto:[39][45]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> > 14.
> >
>
>
[40][46]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
+n&e
> ntry=gmail&source=g
> > 15. mailto:[41][47]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 16. [42][48]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 17. [43][49]http://lp.org/membership
> > 18. mailto:[44][50]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 19. mailto:[45][51]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 20.
> >
>
>
[46][52]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+
tota
> l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
> > 21. mailto:[47][53]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 22. [48][54]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 23. [49][55]http://lp.org/membership
> > 24. mailto:[50][56]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 25. mailto:[51][57]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[58]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 2. mailto:[59]planning4liberty at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:[60]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 4. mailto:[61]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 5. [62]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 6. [63]http://lp.org/membership
> 7. mailto:[64]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 8. mailto:[65]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 9. mailto:[66]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 10. [67]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 11. [68]http://lp.org/membership
> 12. mailto:[69]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 13. mailto:[70]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 14. mailto:[71]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 15.
[72]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
> 16. mailto:[73]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 17. [74]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 18. [75]http://lp.org/membership
> 19. mailto:[76]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 20. mailto:[77]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 21.
[78]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
> 22. mailto:[79]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 23. [80]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 24. [81]http://lp.org/membership
> 25. mailto:[82]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 26. mailto:[83]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 27. mailto:[84]planning4liberty at gmail.com
> 28. mailto:[85]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 29. mailto:[86]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 30. [87]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 31. [88]http://lp.org/membership
> 32. mailto:[89]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 33. mailto:[90]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 34. mailto:[91]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 35. [92]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 36. [93]http://lp.org/membership
> 37. mailto:[94]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 38. mailto:[95]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 39. mailto:[96]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 40.
>
[97]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
ntry=gmail&source=g
> 41. mailto:[98]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 42. [99]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 43. [100]http://lp.org/membership
> 44. mailto:[101]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 45. mailto:[102]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 46.
>
[103]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tot
al+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
> 47. mailto:[104]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 48. [105]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 49. [106]http://lp.org/membership
> 50. mailto:[107]robert.kraus at lp.org
> 51. mailto:[108]wes.benedict at lp.org
> 52. mailto:[109]Operations at LP.org
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2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
5. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
6. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
8. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
9. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
10. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
11. http://facebook.com/libertarians
12. http://lp.org/membership
13. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
14. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
15. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
16. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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18. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
19. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
20. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
21. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
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23. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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29. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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32. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
33. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
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35. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
36. http://facebook.com/libertarians
37. http://lp.org/membership
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39. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
40. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
41. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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54. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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61. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
62. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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72. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
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74. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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84. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
85. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
86. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
87. http://facebook.com/libertarians
88. http://lp.org/membership
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91. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
92. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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97. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&entry=gmail&source=g
98. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
99. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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102. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
103. https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+total+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
104. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
105. http://facebook.com/libertarians
106. http://lp.org/membership
107. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
108. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
109. mailto:Operations at LP.org
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