[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Fri Feb 23 23:22:32 EST 2018
If I don't reply, it means I didn't see. If I am anything, it is an
obsessive replier.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn <
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> Thank you Caryn Ann, that helps.
>
> I had asked a question in one of the emails, which must have gotten lost
> too, as you didn't reply. (Although, that's your prerogative, even if you
> did see the question.)
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2018-02-23 23:09, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
>> I see something I missed:
>> ==Caryn Ann reported that she attended a meeting in WA. So, she clearly
>> has the wherewithal to attend state affiliate meetings. ==
>> Yes I clearly have a computer in which to log-in to an e-meeting when a
>> state Chair requests.
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>> <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> On 2018-02-23 22:27, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>
>> Caryn Ann,
>> It was mentioned to you by Wes. I was in on the conversation
>> because
>> you and I are the two most active fundraisers and membership
>> recruiters on the board. Was that in NOLA or Kansas City?
>>
>> ------Daniel, yet the board members that replied here today, and
>> they were on the LNC during the meetings you mention, didn't know
>> about it.
>>
>> Wes wanted to experiment with it. This stuff all gets disclosed in
>> the Treasurer’s report.
>>
>> ------Experimenting, is fine. Covering the cost for an LNC member to
>> go to state conventions within their own region is something that
>> should have been discussed with this board.
>>
>> Hopefully, other board members take a more active role in fund
>> raising
>> going forward. This discussion has been much longer than it needed
>> to be and much less civil than required.
>>
>> ------My objections aren't to fundraising, but to covering costs for
>> an LNC member to attend state conventions within their own region.
>> I also object to this type of arrangement being made with a broad
>> communication to this board. The surprise that people have expressed
>> here is an indicator that this wasn't something that was
>> communicated to the board.
>> Also, I don't think anyone has been uncivil.
>>
>> Now that it’s revealed that I was “involved” that should explain it.
>> This shall be placed with all my other crimes, including refusing to
>> re-Life Harambe and have him speak at the NatCon.
>>
>> ------Your commentary doesn't explain anything that changes my mind
>> about the inappropriateness of this situation.
>>
>> I get peoples issue with it, but I was there and understand Wes’s
>> perspective and agreed with it. I’m more concerned with results.
>> We
>> have an all too regular habit of tying our shoe’s laces together.
>> We
>> get lost in the minutia.
>>
>> ------Daniel, you understanding and agreeing with Wes, doesn't do
>> anything to change the inappropriateness of the situation.
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> Actually this board does know me. I have served nearly a full
>> term
>> with them. Your predecessors knew me well. And this idea for
>> fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC. In fact
>> - I
>> think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break time
>> about
>> innovative fundraising. I could be wrong but I think Wes did
>> mention
>> it (he would know that better than I) It could only be executed
>> once
>> conventions started. My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t forsee
>> that
>> Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had to prove
>> myself to them anew.
>> I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[1][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people were
>> ready to
>> assume that was true. I was not because I know you and others did
>> not.
>> There is nothing more to say on the exchange here. You think it
>> was
>> perfectly appropriate and I don’t. More digital ink will not
>> change
>> that.
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[2][4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather than
>> openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
>> I followed our policy. I openly discussed this on FB. It is in
>> every
>> financial report.
>> It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
>> There was no lack of transparency that I saw. I told the members
>> at
>> each convention that my trip was paid. Fundraising is under the
>> direction of the ED and I followed that.
>> Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not some
>> unusual
>> thing. My time was donated. The expense to move my body (the
>> equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part of
>> fundraising.
>> And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault. It
>> doesn’t
>> end does it.
>> So I’ll end it. I’ve said what I wish to on that “question” of my
>> “odd
>> and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that answers
>> your
>> question on that front.
>> -Caryn Ann
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[3][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> And if it is spleen venting time well good. I step forward to
>> every
>> challenge I can. Staff knows they can call me at any time with an
>> emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it. If
>> staff
>> called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever] tomorrow
>> can
>> you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
>> My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully earned.
>> There is nothing that was done outside of our rules. If the LNC
>> believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they should
>> do
>> it.
>> But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my
>> propriety.
>> -Caryn Ann
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[4][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have to be
>> voted
>> on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of micromanagement we
>> wallow in.
>> We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m. We said last
>> meeting
>> that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to test.
>> He
>> followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
>> I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal) this
>> season. We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect the
>> intentions of our peers instead.
>> I followed procedure and the Policy Manual. I don’t have a
>> crystal
>> ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
>> -Caryn Ann
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[5][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> I’m not going to devolve into those arguments. It was an
>> inappropriate
>> insinuation. Which you just followed with another one.
>> I followed protocol as I understood it. This was in the
>> discretion of
>> the ED. The Chair and Treasurer approves. Staff was openly
>> coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that would have
>> anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the Party
>> approved.
>> I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about pennies
>> on
>> steemit.
>> A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that could
>> involve
>> you that was disturbing. I asked you directly and it confirmed my
>> judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
>> You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
>> povertaruans
>> suffered. That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see that if
>> you
>> don’t and I won’t spend further time trying. A comment of mine
>> about
>> donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd at
>> all )
>> was twisted into something “disturbing” - couching it with “I
>> wonder”
>> doesn’t change that fact.
>> That was a low comment. If it were made to you you would be
>> requesting
>> me to call it out. And I frankly would.
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>> <[6][8]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>> I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question. As for the
>> courtesy
>> of a
>> direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been
>> avoided,
>> with
>> the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>> On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>> Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward
>>
>> at
>>
>> least with my volunteering on this. I will decline.
>> I will do things on my own as I have done. Less effectively
>>
>> and
>>
>> less
>> often but more peacefully.
>> My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
>>
>> insinuation
>>
>> stated
>> by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
>>
>> cutoff
>>
>> point.
>> It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and
>>
>> eat
>>
>> their
>> own.
>> QED.
>> I never thought I would regret my recruiting success. The LP
>>
>> has
>>
>> surprised me once again.
>> -Caryn Ann
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>> <[1][7][9]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>> Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister,
>>
>> not I.
>>
>> You wrote:
>> " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
>>
>> Which
>>
>> I
>> do
>> at every event."
>> In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
>> national
>> LP.
>> Glad we're in agreement.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>> On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>> Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
>>
>> something
>>
>> sinister
>>
>> but not everything.
>> My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
>>
>> of
>>
>> that.
>>
>> I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
>>
>> trips are
>>
>> just
>>
>> that
>> and nothing more. My comment was simply and only how I
>>
>> would
>>
>> spend
>>
>> my
>> time. Which I do at every event.
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
>> <[1][2][8][10]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
>>
>> although I'd
>>
>> emphasize that
>> my issue is more about disclosure of potential
>>
>> issues to
>>
>> the
>>
>> board
>> ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
>>
>> see
>>
>> here. I
>>
>> explained some, I can find more. The solution to
>>
>> that
>>
>> is,
>> in
>>
>> the
>> future, disclosure to the board of transactions
>>
>> involving
>> LNC
>>
>> members,
>> and the orientation I mentioned earlier. Anyway, I
>>
>> am
>>
>> writing
>>
>> to
>> express disagreement with one point: I almost
>>
>> always
>>
>> disagree
>>
>> with
>> clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
>>
>> malfeasance. I
>>
>> would
>> disagree with requesting the return of funds or
>>
>> stopping
>>
>> funds
>>
>> in
>> progress.
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>> <[1][2][3][9][11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>> Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
>>
>> that
>>
>> I
>> was
>>
>> shocked
>> to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
>>
>> attend
>>
>> state
>> conventions within their own region.
>> Dear LNC,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>
>> dues-paying
>>
>> members by
>> attending state conventions and getting
>>
>> people to
>>
>> join
>>
>> or
>> renew.
>> At first, she did this at state conventions
>>
>> she
>>
>> was
>>
>> attending
>> in her
>> region at her own expense.
>> I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
>>
>> often
>>
>> attend
>>
>> state
>> conventions within their own region, and if she
>>
>> works
>>
>> to
>>
>> boost
>> national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
>> Her results were so strong that I asked her
>>
>> if
>>
>> she
>> would
>>
>> be
>> willing
>> to go to some other states outside of her
>>
>> region
>>
>> to
>> do
>>
>> similar
>> fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>
>> were
>>
>> reimbursed.
>> < This is something that should have been told to
>>
>> the
>>
>> LNC,
>>
>> and
>> even
>> discussed. Why are we only finding this out,
>>
>> after
>>
>> someone
>>
>> inquired? Where's the transparency?<<<
>> We have been struggling to keep membership
>>
>> from
>>
>> falling.
>>
>> We
>> send
>> renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>
>> perform
>>
>> reasonably
>> well
>> but
>> pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>
>> methods we
>>
>> try
>>
>> have
>> very
>> low
>> ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>
>> strong.
>>
>> Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>
>> convention
>> last
>>
>> weekend
>> and
>> recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>>
>> the
>>
>> national
>>
>> LP.
>> That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>
>> her
>>
>> for her
>>
>> travel.
>> I have a problem with this. Many LNC Regional
>> Representatives
>> will attend state conventions within their
>>
>> region. If
>>
>> any of
>>
>> them
>> do membership recruiting for national while
>>
>> there,
>>
>> that's
>>
>> something
>> they choose to do. Are you suggesting that Caryn
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> wouldn't
>> have
>> tried to boost membership at a state convention
>>
>> within
>>
>> her
>>
>> region,
>> if she wasn't reimbursed? Because, I doubt that.
>>
>> This
>> was
>>
>> something she was doing as she chose to do, while
>>
>> attending
>>
>> conventions within her own region. This isn't
>>
>> something
>> that
>>
>> an
>> LNC
>> member should be reimbursed for. <<<
>> I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>
>> conventions to
>>
>> have
>> her do
>> this work. No one else has done this as
>>
>> successfully as
>>
>> Caryn
>> Ann.
>> Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>
>> for
>>
>> her
>>
>> time.
>> Wes, you don't know what others have done
>>
>> regarding
>>
>> recruiting,
>> as
>> most people do it as a normal part of being in
>>
>> the LP.
>>
>> I,
>>
>> nor
>> most
>> others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
>>
>> join
>>
>> the LP,
>>
>> as I
>> see it as a given this is done.<<<
>> Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
>>
>> let
>>
>> national
>>
>> membership drop? Because, they're unhappy with
>>
>> the
>>
>> national
>>
>> LP. At
>> my last state convention, our officers said that
>>
>> they
>>
>> want
>>
>> people to
>> keep state memberships current, but national
>>
>> doesn't
>>
>> do
>>
>> anything for
>> them, so they don't care much about that. I had
>>
>> to
>>
>> mention
>>
>> that our
>> delegate count is tied to national membership,
>>
>> and
>>
>> since
>>
>> then,
>> I
>> followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
>>
>> dropped.
>>
>> I've
>> been
>> thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
>>
>> successful
>>
>> in
>> reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
>>
>> are
>>
>> passionate
>> about the LP and liberty actions. Not because
>>
>> anyone
>>
>> is
>>
>> being
>> reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
>>
>> (My
>>
>> state
>>
>> isn't the
>> only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
>> For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>
>> take
>>
>> the
>>
>> time
>> to
>> attend,
>> I will be sending our staff member Jess
>>
>> Mears.
>>
>> The
>> thing
>>
>> with
>> Jess
>> is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>
>> attend,
>> and
>>
>> return
>> from
>> state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>
>> high
>>
>> of
>> a
>>
>> ROI.
>> I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
>>
>> conventions
>> to
>>
>> boost
>> national membership, if the national LP is paying
>>
>> for
>>
>> it.
>>
>> Instead,
>> we should work to create a better LP that's
>>
>> responsive
>>
>> to
>>
>> it's
>> members and the public, and we grow through
>>
>> people
>>
>> seeking to
>>
>> join
>> us. Organic growth.<<<
>> I received a complaint today that it is
>>
>> inappropriate
>>
>> for
>> someone
>> running for a position on the LNC to have
>>
>> travel
>>
>> reimbursed.
>> I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>
>> think
>>
>> it's a
>>
>> violation
>> of our policies.
>> It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> Harlos
>>
>> for
>> traveling to state conventions within her own
>>
>> region,
>>
>> the LP
>>
>> is
>> subsidizing her efforts as a regional
>>
>> representative.
>>
>> This is
>>
>> inappropriate.<<<
>> Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>
>> your
>>
>> feedback. If
>> you
>> request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>>
>> or any
>>
>> other
>>
>> LNC
>> member
>> to state conventions for the purpos
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=to+state+conventions+for+the+purpos&entry=gmail&source=g>e
>> of
>>
>> recruiting
>>
>> dues-paying
>> members, we can end the program.
>> Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
>>
>> members
>>
>> for
>>
>> travel to
>> state conventions within their own region. I
>>
>> also am
>>
>> requesting
>> that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
>>
>> costs
>> of
>>
>> any
>> state
>> conventions she attended within her region.
>> As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
>>
>> this
>>
>> should
>>
>> be
>> discussed by the LNC.<<<
>> A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>
>> to
>>
>> go
>> to
>>
>> state
>> convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>
>> recruit
>>
>> members--why
>> don't
>> you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>
>> proved
>>
>> her
>>
>> willingness
>> and capability within her own region. No
>>
>> other
>>
>> LNC
>>
>> members
>> have
>> mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>
>> members
>> from
>>
>> their
>> states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
>>
>> are not
>>
>> able
>>
>> to
>> attend
>> every state convention. If you are
>>
>> interested in
>>
>> helping,
>> and
>> willing to prove your ability first at a
>>
>> state in
>>
>> your
>>
>> region
>> or at
>> another state at your own expense, let me
>>
>> know
>>
>> and
>> we
>>
>> might be
>> able
>> to try that. And then we can report the
>>
>> results.
>>
>> [12]Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
>>
>> due to
>>
>> a
>> FB
>>
>> post
>> that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
>>
>> he's
>>
>> the
>>
>> reason
>> she
>> renewed) I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
>>
>> quite
>> a
>>
>> number of
>> people renewing or joining the LP. As Andy's an
>>
>> excellent
>>
>> advocate
>> for the cause that is the LP. If you want to
>>
>> find
>>
>> someone
>>
>> who's out
>> there building up hope in the LP, and getting
>>
>> people
>>
>> on
>>
>> board,
>> he's
>> the one. You probably don't know this stuff, as
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> doesn't
>>
>> seek
>> to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
>>
>> sees it
>>
>> as
>>
>> normal
>> for
>> people who support the LP.
>> Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
>>
>> track
>>
>> of
>> how
>>
>> many
>> people they've recruited. So, your statement
>>
>> asking
>>
>> people
>>
>> to
>> "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
>> (truncated)
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
>> Dear LNC,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>
>> dues-paying
>>
>> members by
>> attending state conventions and getting
>>
>> people to
>>
>> join
>>
>> or
>> renew.
>> At first, she did this at state conventions
>>
>> she
>>
>> was
>>
>> attending
>> in her
>> region at her own expense.
>> Her results were so strong that I asked her
>>
>> if
>>
>> she
>> would
>>
>> be
>> willing
>> to go to some other states outside of her
>>
>> region
>>
>> to
>> do
>>
>> similar
>> fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>
>> were
>>
>> reimbursed.
>> We have been struggling to keep membership
>>
>> from
>>
>> falling.
>>
>> We
>> send
>> renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>
>> perform
>>
>> reasonably
>> well
>> but
>> pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>
>> methods we
>>
>> try
>>
>> have
>> very
>> low
>> ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>
>> strong.
>>
>> Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>
>> convention
>> last
>>
>> weekend
>> and
>> recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>>
>> the
>>
>> national
>>
>> LP.
>> That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>
>> her
>>
>> for her
>>
>> travel.
>> I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>
>> conventions to
>>
>> have
>> her do
>> this work. No one else has done this as
>>
>> successfully as
>>
>> Caryn
>> Ann.
>> Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>
>> for
>>
>> her
>>
>> time.
>> For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>
>> take
>>
>> the
>>
>> time
>> to
>> attend,
>> I will be sending our staff member Jess
>>
>> Mears.
>>
>> The
>> thing
>>
>> with
>> Jess
>> is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>
>> attend,
>> and
>>
>> return
>> from
>> state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>
>> high
>>
>> of
>> a
>>
>> ROI.
>> I received a complaint today that it is
>>
>> inappropriate
>>
>> for
>> someone
>> running for a position on the LNC to have
>>
>> travel
>>
>> reimbursed.
>> I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>
>> think
>>
>> it's a
>>
>> violation
>> of our policies.
>> Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>
>> your
>>
>> feedback. If
>> you
>> request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>>
>> or any
>>
>> other
>>
>> LNC
>> member
>> to state conventions for the purpose of
>>
>> recruiting
>>
>> dues-paying
>> members, we can end the program.
>> A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>
>> to
>>
>> go
>> to
>>
>> state
>> convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>
>> recruit
>>
>> members--why
>> don't
>> you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>
>> proved
>>
>> her
>>
>> willingness
>> and capability within her own region. No
>>
>> other
>>
>> LNC
>>
>> members
>> have
>> mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>
>> members
>> from
>>
>> their
>> states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
>>
>> are
>>
>> not
>>
>> able
>> to
>> attend
>> every state convention. If you are
>>
>> interested in
>>
>> helping,
>> and
>> willing to prove your ability first at a
>>
>> state in
>>
>> your
>>
>> region
>> or at
>> another state at your own expense, let me
>>
>> know
>>
>> and
>> we
>>
>> might be
>> able
>> to try that. And then we can report the
>>
>> results.
>>
>> Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
>>
>> some of
>>
>> the
>>
>> fundraising
>> results from Caryn Ann.
>> I welcome your feedback.
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> [3][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>>
>> [1][4][3][4][10][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>
>> [2][5][4][5][11][15]facebook.com/libertarians
>>
>> @LPNational
>>
>> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>> [3][6][5][6][12][16]http://lp.org/membership
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Harlos Fundraising
>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
>> From: Robert S. Kraus
>>
>> [4]<[7][6][7][13][17]robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>
>> To: Wes Benedict
>>
>> [5]<[8][7][8][14][18]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>
>> I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
>>
>> of
>>
>> $2,335.00
>>
>> for 82
>> members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
>>
>> have
>>
>> also
>>
>> contributed
>> a
>> net total excluding conv related gifts of
>>
>> $6,261.74
>>
>> since
>>
>> 2016
>> convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
>>
>> of
>>
>> course so
>>
>> she has
>> her
>> fans)
>> In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
>>
>> $12,120
>>
>> raised for
>> Historic Preservation
>> Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
>>
>> 2016
>>
>> convention
>>
>> (non
>> convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
>>
>> Preservation)
>>
>> --
>> Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
>> [6]Operations at LP.org
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke Street
>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>> Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[11][8][9][15][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 2.
>>
>> [12][9][10][16][20]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>
>> 3. [13][10][11][17][21]http://lp.org/membership
>> 4. mailto:[14][11][12][18][22]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 5. mailto:[15][12][13][19][23]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[13][14][20][24]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 2.
>>
>> [14][15][21][25]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+
>> together
>> +are
>>
>> +n&e
>>
>> ntry=gmail&source=g
>> 3. tel:[26](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 4. mailto:[15][16][22][27]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 5. [16][17][23][28]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 6. [17][18][24][29]http://lp.org/membership
>> 7. mailto:[18][19][25][30]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 8. mailto:[19][20][26][31]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 9.
>>
>> [20][21][27][32]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+
>> solicitor+fo
>> r+a+
>>
>> tota
>>
>> l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>> 10. tel:[33]202.333.0008 x 231
>> 11. mailto:[21][22][28][34]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 12. [22][23][29][35]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 13. [23][24][30][36]http://lp.org/membership
>> 14. mailto:[24][25][31][37]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 15. mailto:[25][26][32][38]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[27][33][39]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 2. mailto:[28][34][40]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[29][35][41]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 4. [30][36][42]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 5. [31][37][43]http://lp.org/membership
>> 6. mailto:[32][38][44]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 7. mailto:[33][39][45]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 8. mailto:[34][40][46]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 9. [35][41][47]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 10. [36][42][48]http://lp.org/membership
>> 11. mailto:[37][43][49]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 12. mailto:[38][44][50]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 13. mailto:[39][45][51]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 14.
>>
>> [40][46][52]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+toge
>> ther+are
>> +n&e
>>
>> ntry=gmail&source=g
>>
>> 15. mailto:[41][47][53]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 16. [42][48][54]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 17. [43][49][55]http://lp.org/membership
>> 18. mailto:[44][50][56]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 19. mailto:[45][51][57]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 20.
>>
>> [46][52][58]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicito
>> r+for+a+
>> tota
>>
>> l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>
>> 21. mailto:[47][53][59]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 22. [48][54][60]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 23. [49][55][61]http://lp.org/membership
>> 24. mailto:[50][56][62]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 25. mailto:[51][57][63]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org
>>
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[58][64]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[59][65]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 3. mailto:[60][66]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 4. mailto:[61][67]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 5. [62][68]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 6. [63][69]http://lp.org/membership
>> 7. mailto:[64][70]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 8. mailto:[65][71]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 9. mailto:[66][72]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 10. [67][73]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 11. [68][74]http://lp.org/membership
>> 12. mailto:[69][75]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 13. mailto:[70][76]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 14. mailto:[71][77]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 15.
>>
>> [72][78]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together
>> +are+n&e
>>
>> 16. mailto:[73][79]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 17. [74][80]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 18. [75][81]http://lp.org/membership
>> 19. mailto:[76][82]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 20. mailto:[77][83]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 21.
>>
>> [78][84]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+fo
>> r+a+tota
>>
>> 22. mailto:[79][85]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 23. [80][86]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 24. [81][87]http://lp.org/membership
>> 25. mailto:[82][88]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 26. mailto:[83][89]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 27. mailto:[84][90]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 28. mailto:[85][91]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 29. mailto:[86][92]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 30. [87][93]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 31. [88][94]http://lp.org/membership
>> 32. mailto:[89][95]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 33. mailto:[90][96]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 34. mailto:[91][97]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 35. [92][98]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 36. [93][99]http://lp.org/membership
>> 37. mailto:[94][100]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 38. mailto:[95][101]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 39. mailto:[96][102]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 40.
>>
>> [97][103]https://maps.google.com/?q
>> =n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>> ntry=gmail&source=g
>>
>> 41. mailto:[98][104]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 42. [99][105]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 43. [100][106]http://lp.org/membership
>> 44. mailto:[101][107]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 45. mailto:[102][108]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 46.
>>
>> [103][109]https://maps.google.com/?
>> q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tot
>> al+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>
>> 47. mailto:[104][110]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 48. [105][111]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 49. [106][112]http://lp.org/membership
>> 50. mailto:[107][113]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 51. mailto:[108][114]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 52. mailto:[109]Operations at LP.org
>>
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[115]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[116]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[117]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 4. mailto:[118]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 5. mailto:[119]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 6. mailto:[120]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 7. mailto:[121]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 8. mailto:[122]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 9. mailto:[123]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 10. mailto:[124]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 11. [125]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 12. [126]http://lp.org/membership
>> 13. mailto:[127]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 14. mailto:[128]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 15. mailto:[129]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 16. [130]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 17. [131]http://lp.org/membership
>> 18. mailto:[132]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 19. mailto:[133]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 20. mailto:[134]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 21. [135]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+A
>> nn+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
>> 22. mailto:[136]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 23. [137]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 24. [138]http://lp.org/membership
>> 25. mailto:[139]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 26. mailto:[140]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 27. [141]https://maps.google.com/?q=Har
>> los+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+
>> 28. mailto:[142]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 29. [143]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 30. [144]http://lp.org/membership
>> 31. mailto:[145]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 32. mailto:[146]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 33. mailto:[147]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 34. mailto:[148]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 35. mailto:[149]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 36. [150]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 37. [151]http://lp.org/membership
>> 38. mailto:[152]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 39. mailto:[153]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 40. mailto:[154]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 41. [155]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 42. [156]http://lp.org/membership
>> 43. mailto:[157]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 44. mailto:[158]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 45. mailto:[159]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 46. [160]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+A
>> nn+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>> 47. mailto:[161]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 48. [162]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 49. [163]http://lp.org/membership
>> 50. mailto:[164]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 51. mailto:[165]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 52. [166]https://maps.google.com/?q=Har
>> los+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
>> 53. mailto:[167]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 54. [168]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 55. [169]http://lp.org/membership
>> 56. mailto:[170]robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 57. mailto:[171]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 58. mailto:[172]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 59. mailto:[173]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 60. mailto:[174]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 61. mailto:[175]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 62. [176]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 5. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 6. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 7. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 8. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 9. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 10. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 11. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 12.
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=Wes,+I+know+a+woman+who+renewed+
>> her+membership&entry=gmail&source=g
>> 13. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 14. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 15. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 16. http://lp.org/membership
>> 17. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 18. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 19. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 20. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 21. http://lp.org/membership
>> 22. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 23. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 24. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 25. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together
>> 26. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 27. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 28. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 29. http://lp.org/membership
>> 30. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 31. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 32. https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+fo
>> 33. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
>> 34. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 35. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 36. http://lp.org/membership
>> 37. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 38. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 39. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 40. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 41. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 42. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 43. http://lp.org/membership
>> 44. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 45. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 46. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 47. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 48. http://lp.org/membership
>> 49. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
>> 50. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 51. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>> 52. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
>> 53. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 54. http://facebook.com/libertarians
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If I don't reply, it means I didn't see. If I am anything, it is an
obsessive replier.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
<[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
Thank you Caryn Ann, that helps.
I had asked a question in one of the emails, which must have gotten
lost too, as you didn't reply. (Although, that's your prerogative,
even if you did see the question.)
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-02-23 23:09, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
I see something I missed:
==Caryn Ann reported that she attended a meeting in WA. So, she
clearly
has the wherewithal to attend state affiliate meetings. ==
Yes I clearly have a computer in which to log-in to an e-meeting
when a
state Chair requests.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
<[1][2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-02-23 22:27, Daniel Hayes wrote:
Caryn Ann,
It was mentioned to you by Wes. I was in on the conversation
because
you and I are the two most active fundraisers and membership
recruiters on the board. Was that in NOLA or Kansas City?
------Daniel, yet the board members that replied here today,
and
they were on the LNC during the meetings you mention, didn't
know
about it.
Wes wanted to experiment with it. This stuff all gets
disclosed in
the Treasurer’s report.
------Experimenting, is fine. Covering the cost for an LNC
member to
go to state conventions within their own region is something
that
should have been discussed with this board.
Hopefully, other board members take a more active role in fund
raising
going forward. This discussion has been much longer than it
needed
to be and much less civil than required.
------My objections aren't to fundraising, but to covering
costs for
an LNC member to attend state conventions within their own
region.
I also object to this type of arrangement being made with a
broad
communication to this board. The surprise that people have
expressed
here is an indicator that this wasn't something that was
communicated to the board.
Also, I don't think anyone has been uncivil.
Now that it’s revealed that I was “involved” that should
explain it.
This shall be placed with all my other crimes, including
refusing to
re-Life Harambe and have him speak at the NatCon.
------Your commentary doesn't explain anything that changes my
mind
about the inappropriateness of this situation.
I get peoples issue with it, but I was there and understand
Wes’s
perspective and agreed with it. I’m more concerned with
results.
We
have an all too regular habit of tying our shoe’s laces
together.
We
get lost in the minutia.
------Daniel, you understanding and agreeing with Wes, doesn't
do
anything to change the inappropriateness of the situation.
Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[2][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
Actually this board does know me. I have served nearly a
full
term
with them. Your predecessors knew me well. And this idea
for
fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC. In
fact
- I
think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break
time
about
innovative fundraising. I could be wrong but I think Wes did
mention
it (he would know that better than I) It could only be
executed
once
conventions started. My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t
forsee
that
Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had to
prove
myself to them anew.
I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1][3][4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people
were
ready to
assume that was true. I was not because I know you and
others did
not.
There is nothing more to say on the exchange here. You think
it
was
perfectly appropriate and I don’t. More digital ink will not
change
that.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[2][4][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather
than
openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
I followed our policy. I openly discussed this on FB. It is
in
every
financial report.
It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
There was no lack of transparency that I saw. I told the
members
at
each convention that my trip was paid. Fundraising is under
the
direction of the ED and I followed that.
Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not
some
unusual
thing. My time was donated. The expense to move my body
(the
equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part
of
fundraising.
And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault. It
doesn’t
end does it.
So I’ll end it. I’ve said what I wish to on that “question”
of my
“odd
and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that
answers
your
question on that front.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[3][5][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
And if it is spleen venting time well good. I step forward
to
every
challenge I can. Staff knows they can call me at any time
with an
emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it.
If
staff
called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever]
tomorrow
can
you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully
earned.
There is nothing that was done outside of our rules. If the
LNC
believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they
should
do
it.
But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my
propriety.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[4][6][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have
to be
voted
on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of
micromanagement we
wallow in.
We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m. We said
last
meeting
that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to
test.
He
followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal)
this
season. We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect
the
intentions of our peers instead.
I followed procedure and the Policy Manual. I don’t have a
crystal
ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[5][7][8]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I’m not going to devolve into those arguments. It was an
inappropriate
insinuation. Which you just followed with another one.
I followed protocol as I understood it. This was in the
discretion of
the ED. The Chair and Treasurer approves. Staff was openly
coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that would
have
anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the
Party
approved.
I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about
pennies
on
steemit.
A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that
could
involve
you that was disturbing. I asked you directly and it
confirmed my
judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
povertaruans
suffered. That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see
that if
you
don’t and I won’t spend further time trying. A comment of
mine
about
donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd
at
all )
was twisted into something “disturbing” - couching it with
“I
wonder”
doesn’t change that fact.
That was a low comment. If it were made to you you would be
requesting
me to call it out. And I frankly would.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
<[6][8][9]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question. As for the
courtesy
of a
direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been
avoided,
with
the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving
forward
at
least with my volunteering on this. I will decline.
I will do things on my own as I have done. Less effectively
and
less
often but more peacefully.
My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
insinuation
stated
by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
cutoff
point.
It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and
eat
their
own.
QED.
I never thought I would regret my recruiting success. The LP
has
surprised me once again.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
<[1][7][9][10]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister,
not I.
You wrote:
" My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
Which
I
do
at every event."
In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
national
LP.
Glad we're in agreement.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
something
sinister
but not everything.
My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
of
that.
I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
trips are
just
that
and nothing more. My comment was simply and only how I
would
spend
my
time. Which I do at every event.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
<[1][2][8][10][11]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
although I'd
emphasize that
my issue is more about disclosure of potential
issues to
the
board
ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
see
here. I
explained some, I can find more. The solution to
that
is,
in
the
future, disclosure to the board of transactions
involving
LNC
members,
and the orientation I mentioned earlier. Anyway, I
am
writing
to
express disagreement with one point: I almost
always
disagree
with
clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
malfeasance. I
would
disagree with requesting the return of funds or
stopping
funds
in
progress.
Joshua A. Katz
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
<[1][2][3][9][11][12]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
that
I
was
shocked
to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
attend
state
conventions within their own region.
Dear LNC,
Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
dues-paying
members by
attending state conventions and getting
people to
join
or
renew.
At first, she did this at state conventions
she
was
attending
in her
region at her own expense.
I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
often
attend
state
conventions within their own region, and if she
works
to
boost
national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
Her results were so strong that I asked her
if
she
would
be
willing
to go to some other states outside of her
region
to
do
similar
fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
were
reimbursed.
< This is something that should have been told to
the
LNC,
and
even
discussed. Why are we only finding this out,
after
someone
inquired? Where's the transparency?<<<
We have been struggling to keep membership
from
falling.
We
send
renewal emails and renewal letters that
perform
reasonably
well
but
pretty much exhaust that method. Other
methods we
try
have
very
low
ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
strong.
Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
convention
last
weekend
and
recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
the
national
LP.
That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
her
for her
travel.
I have a problem with this. Many LNC Regional
Representatives
will attend state conventions within their
region. If
any of
them
do membership recruiting for national while
there,
that's
something
they choose to do. Are you suggesting that Caryn
Ann
wouldn't
have
tried to boost membership at a state convention
within
her
region,
if she wasn't reimbursed? Because, I doubt that.
This
was
something she was doing as she chose to do, while
attending
conventions within her own region. This isn't
something
that
an
LNC
member should be reimbursed for. <<<
I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
conventions to
have
her do
this work. No one else has done this as
successfully as
Caryn
Ann.
Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
for
her
time.
Wes, you don't know what others have done
regarding
recruiting,
as
most people do it as a normal part of being in
the LP.
I,
nor
most
others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
join
the LP,
as I
see it as a given this is done.<<<
Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
let
national
membership drop? Because, they're unhappy with
the
national
LP. At
my last state convention, our officers said that
they
want
people to
keep state memberships current, but national
doesn't
do
anything for
them, so they don't care much about that. I had
to
mention
that our
delegate count is tied to national membership,
and
since
then,
I
followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
dropped.
I've
been
thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
successful
in
reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
are
passionate
about the LP and liberty actions. Not because
anyone
is
being
reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
(My
state
isn't the
only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
take
the
time
to
attend,
I will be sending our staff member Jess
Mears.
The
thing
with
Jess
is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
attend,
and
return
from
state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
high
of
a
ROI.
I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
conventions
to
boost
national membership, if the national LP is paying
for
it.
Instead,
we should work to create a better LP that's
responsive
to
it's
members and the public, and we grow through
people
seeking to
join
us. Organic growth.<<<
I received a complaint today that it is
inappropriate
for
someone
running for a position on the LNC to have
travel
reimbursed.
I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
think
it's a
violation
of our policies.
It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
Ann
Harlos
for
traveling to state conventions within her own
region,
the LP
is
subsidizing her efforts as a regional
representative.
This is
inappropriate.<<<
Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
your
feedback. If
you
request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
or any
other
LNC
member
[13]to state conventions for the purpose of
recruiting
dues-paying
members, we can end the program.
Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
members
for
travel to
state conventions within their own region. I
also am
requesting
that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
costs
of
any
state
conventions she attended within her region.
As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
this
should
be
discussed by the LNC.<<<
A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
to
go
to
state
convention at the expense of the LNC and
recruit
members--why
don't
you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
proved
her
willingness
and capability within her own region. No
other
LNC
members
have
mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
members
from
their
states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
are not
able
to
attend
every state convention. If you are
interested in
helping,
and
willing to prove your ability first at a
state in
your
region
or at
another state at your own expense, let me
know
and
we
might be
able
to try that. And then we can report the
results.
[12]Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
due to
a
FB
post
that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
he's
the
reason
she
renewed) I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
quite
a
number of
people renewing or joining the LP. As Andy's an
excellent
advocate
for the cause that is the LP. If you want to
find
someone
who's out
there building up hope in the LP, and getting
people
on
board,
he's
the one. You probably don't know this stuff, as
Andy
doesn't
seek
to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
sees it
as
normal
for
people who support the LP.
Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
track
of
how
many
people they've recruited. So, your statement
asking
people
to
"prove your ability", is moot.<<<
(truncated)
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
Dear LNC,
Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
dues-paying
members by
attending state conventions and getting
people to
join
or
renew.
At first, she did this at state conventions
she
was
attending
in her
region at her own expense.
Her results were so strong that I asked her
if
she
would
be
willing
to go to some other states outside of her
region
to
do
similar
fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
were
reimbursed.
We have been struggling to keep membership
from
falling.
We
send
renewal emails and renewal letters that
perform
reasonably
well
but
pretty much exhaust that method. Other
methods we
try
have
very
low
ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
strong.
Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
convention
last
weekend
and
recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
the
national
LP.
That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
her
for her
travel.
I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
conventions to
have
her do
this work. No one else has done this as
successfully as
Caryn
Ann.
Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
for
her
time.
For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
take
the
time
to
attend,
I will be sending our staff member Jess
Mears.
The
thing
with
Jess
is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
attend,
and
return
from
state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
high
of
a
ROI.
I received a complaint today that it is
inappropriate
for
someone
running for a position on the LNC to have
travel
reimbursed.
I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
think
it's a
violation
of our policies.
Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
your
feedback. If
you
request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
or any
other
LNC
member
to state conventions for the purpose of
recruiting
dues-paying
members, we can end the program.
A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
to
go
to
state
convention at the expense of the LNC and
recruit
members--why
don't
you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
proved
her
willingness
and capability within her own region. No
other
LNC
members
have
mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
members
from
their
states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
are
not
able
to
attend
every state convention. If you are
interested in
helping,
and
willing to prove your ability first at a
state in
your
region
or at
another state at your own expense, let me
know
and
we
might be
able
to try that. And then we can report the
results.
Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
some of
the
fundraising
results from Caryn Ann.
I welcome your feedback.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[3][13][14](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
[1][4][3][4][10][14][15]wes.benedict at lp.org
[2][5][4][5][11][15][16]facebook.com/libertarians
@LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[3][6][5][6][12][16][17]http://lp.org/membership
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Harlos Fundraising
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
From: Robert S. Kraus
[4]<[7][6][7][13][17][18]robert.kraus at lp.org>
To: Wes Benedict
[5]<[8][7][8][14][18][19]wes.benedict at lp.org>
I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
of
$2,335.00
for 82
members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
have
also
contributed
a
net total excluding conv related gifts of
$6,261.74
since
2016
convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
of
course so
she has
her
fans)
In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
$12,120
raised for
Historic Preservation
Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
2016
convention
(non
convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
Preservation)
--
Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
[6]Operations at LP.org
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
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.benedict at lp.org
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