[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sun Feb 25 14:53:40 EST 2018


There have been absolutely incorrect items mixed in.  So I stand in my
comment.

It was reported.

I doubt that will make the gossip rounds.

No matter that is life in the LP fortunately.

I’m sure a new outrage will be easily found.

I completely appreciate the legitimate concerns.  Very much so. And
completely legitimate concerns can and have been salted with political
smear.


On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:40 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

> Apparently, very few LNC members read your report.
>
> This also doesn't address the issue of this being discussed by the LNC,
> before a decision was made.  Your report is after a decision was made,
> and without this board weighing-in.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
> On 2018-02-25 14:17, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > Thank you Wes.  Actually last night I did wake up and realize THIS WAS
> >    IN MY REPORT.  I put EVERYTHING in my reports.
> >
> >    Any LNC member could have read that.  It was sent to party members.
> > It
> >    was posted online multiple places.
> >
> >    I reported it.
> >
> >    I hope that at least settles part of the political smear job that
> > has
> >    ensued.
> >
> >    And I am going to relisten to that entire NOLA meeting (though there
> >    was equipment malfunction for part of the time) as I am pretty
> > positive
> >    it was discussed informally there.  Wes or Lauren may recall.
> >
> >    All of our policies were followed.  I DID DISCLOSE THIS TO THE LNC.
> >
> >    -Caryn Ann
> >
> >    On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:24 AM Wes Benedict
> > <[1]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> >    wrote:
> >
> >         Substantial updates below.
> >         Robert Kraus, based on the general direction provided by the
> >      chair (a
> >         copy pasted below), please issue the reimbursement to Caryn Ann
> >      Harlos
> >         ($439.73 I believe), but wait until Tuesday morning to do it to
> >      give
> >         the LNC the opportunity to get a motion started to deny the
> >         reimbursement in case they want to do that (something I think
> > is
> >         unlikely, but of course possible). If a motion addressing these
> >      issues
> >         has co-sponsors, even though we won't know for 10 days whether
> > or
> >      not
> >         it would pass, if a motion were in process, I'd find it prudent
> >      to hold
> >         off on the reimbursement until such a motion has time to
> >      complete.
> >         Although it's among lots of other information, I think it's
> > worth
> >         pointing out that Ms. Harlos included that she would be sent to
> >      some
> >         state convention in 2018 in her region report at the December
> >      2017 LNC
> >         meeting in New Orleans. Excerpt below:
> >           Membership Growth -  "I have been obtaining the lists of
> >      Regional
> >           lapsed members for Region 1 and making calls to encourage
> >      renewal
> >           earlier this year. I also have been promoting National
> >      memberships
> >           at the state conventions and have personally signed up about
> >      150 new
> >           members between in-person and on-line renewals. I am being
> > sent
> >      to
> >           several conventions in 2018 by the national party to recruit.
> > I
> >           constantly coach and encourage my region regarding national
> >           memberships."
> >
> >
> > [1][2]http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-12-09_LNC_Me
> >      eting_
> >         Region_1_Report.pdf
> >         I do not recall if this program was discussed during some
> > portion
> >      of
> >         the LNC meeting (like budget or elsewhere). Daniel Hayes
> >      mentioned he
> >         recalls hearing about the program but that could have been
> >      outside of
> >         the meeting. I don't think I personally brought it up during
> > the
> >      staff
> >         portion of the meeting. In case anyone is inclined to do review
> >      the LNC
> >         meeting, the LNC meeting can be watched again here:
> >         [2][3]https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/
> >         Going forward . . .
> >         Caryn Ann Harlos, please resume our plans for you to attend
> > state
> >         conventions, to recruit members, and to have your travel
> >      reimbursed by
> >         the LNC (again, like above, unless the LNC initiates a motion
> >      aimed at
> >         ending the practice in which case it would be wise to wait for
> >      that
> >         motion to complete). Going forward, I think we should restrict
> >         reimbursements for visits outside of your region. Thank you for
> >      your
> >         service. Sorry about the kerfuffle.
> >         If any other LNC members are interested in visiting a state
> >      convention
> >         to recruit members and to have the expenses covered by the
> > party,
> >         please identify the state convention you'd like to try and I'll
> >      let you
> >         know if that one is covered yet and if I think it's a good
> >      opportunity.
> >         If interested, for transparency purposes, I think it's best to
> >      make
> >         your offer publicly on this LNC discuss list. Also, please
> >      provide
> >         projections on the expenses and revenue you expect. I'll not
> >      personally
> >         approve a trip that is very likely to have too poor of an ROI
> >      (e.g. a
> >         trip to an expensive place to reach with a likely low
> >      attendance--no
> >         offense intended, but Hawaii comes to mind--I'll not approve
> >      Hawaii
> >         unless someone makes a really good case for it). I will intend
> > to
> >         report your results and based on your results from your first
> >      state
> >         we'll see if a second state is warranted.
> >         LNC members, this project is not critical. It will likely cost
> >      less
> >         than 1% of our budget, and will likely bring in less than 1% to
> >      3% of
> >         our members. If it's too much of a distraction, I will not be
> >      offended
> >         if you vote to end the program and it likely won't have a major
> >      impact
> >         (unless more LNC members participate and are more successful
> > than
> >      I
> >         anticipate).
> >         I do like trying new things to get our membership up, and like
> >      using
> >         volunteers when they are available if the staff required to
> >      support the
> >         volunteers isn't overly burdensome. I also like having LNC
> >      members use
> >         their talents when available.
> >         As usual, our operations director Robert Kraus is always happy
> > to
> >         provide lists of people to LNC members to call for membership
> >      renewals
> >         and donations to the national party from the comfort of your
> >      home. If
> >         interested in making fundraising calls, let me or Robert know.
> >         (The chair's comments are below as referenced above.)
> >         Thanks,
> >         --Wes Benedict
> >         -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >          Subject: [Lnc-business] Expense Reimbursement for Fundraising
> >             Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:06:19 -0700
> >             From: Nicholas Sarwark [3]<[4]chair at lp.org>
> >         Reply-To: [4][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >               To: [5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >      Dear All,
> >      Expense reimbursements to LNC members have been made (and will be
> >      made
> >      in the future) according to the rules set out in our policy
> > manual.
> >      The Chair and/or the Treasurer (depending on the situation)
> > approve
> >      the expenses and no officer approves his or her own expenses.
> >      When expense reimbursements for party business are made to a
> > member
> >      of
> >      the LNC, they are reported on the related party transactions
> > portion
> >      of the Treasurer's report.
> >      As our fundraising infrastructure has improved, there are more
> >      opportunities for fundraising events than there is availability
> > from
> >      only staff and the Chair. If LNC members are able to handle events
> >      at
> >      the direction of the Executive Director or Head of Development,
> > they
> >      have been (and will continue to be) reimbursed for their expenses
> >      associated with those events.
> >      Membership recruitment is one part of an effective fundraising
> >      strategy.  When a person makes an initial financial commitment to
> >      the
> >      party, they are much more likely to make future financial
> >      commitments
> >      over their lifetime (and sometimes at the end of it).
> >      Absent a change in the policy manual or specific guidance in the
> >      form
> >      of a vote of the national committee, it is my intention to proceed
> >      as
> >      we have been doing in consultation with the Treasurer, Executive
> >      Director, and the Head of Development.
> >      Yours in liberty,
> >      Nick
> >      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >      1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >      (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [6][7]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >      [8]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >      Join the Libertarian Party at: [7][9]http://lp.org/membership
> >         Wes Benedict wrote on 2/23/2018 2:09 PM:
> >           Thanks for the response.
> >           Joshua, we have sent Chair Sarwark and Vice Chair Vohra to
> >           fundraising events and have reimbursed their travel expenses.
> >           Our Head of Development is setting up additional fundraising
> >      events
> >           with the intention of the chair to attend.
> >           What do you think about that? Would you recommend we cease
> >           reimbursing the travel expenses for sending the chair for
> >           fundraising events?
> >           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >           (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [8][10]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >           [11]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >           Join the Libertarian Party at:
> > [9][12]http://lp.org/membership
> >           On 2/23/2018 1:56 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> >               As I said, what's done is done.  You should send the
> > funds.
> >           That's
> >               just my opinion, of course, since I can't act for this
> >           organization,
> >               but it's my opinion.
> >               Joshua A. Katz
> >               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Wes Benedict
> >           [10]<[1][13]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> >               wrote:
> >                 Here's where we stand expense-wise on this if I have my
> >      facts
> >                 correct--and I have gotten facts wrong on this so I
> > want
> >      to be
> >                 transparent and corrected if I'm wrong.
> >                 So far, we have reimbursed Caryn Ann Harlos $198.96 for
> >      SW
> >           Airlines
> >                 under "Membership Fundraising Costs" and I think that
> > was
> >      for
> >           the
> >                 Arizona state convention.
> >                 Additionally, Caryn Ann submitted expenses for
> >      reimbursement
> >           for
> >                 $439.73 to be paid for fundraising at the WA state
> >      convention.
> >                 I submitted those expenses to the treasurer with a
> >      request for
> >                 approval, received the approval, but we haven't sent
> >      those
> >           funds to
> >                 Caryn Ann yet. Approval attached, if attachments are
> >      working
> >           today.
> >                 Now I'm unsure what I should do about the $439.73.
> >                 I'm pretty sure I should go ahead and have the funds
> >      issued,
> >                 because, this was all done in compliance with the
> > policy
> >           manual and
> >                 with the knowledge of the chair and treasurer.
> >                 Is there any opposition to me issuing the funds to
> > Caryn
> >      Ann
> >           for the
> >                 $439.73?
> >                 Today coincidentally we received the memberships in the
> >      mail
> >           from
> >                 WA:  a total of 16 memberships for $690 total plus a
> > $25
> >      a
> >           month
> >                 donor.
> >                 Josh, what do you think? Do you think I should issue
> > the
> >           payment of
> >                 $439.73 to Caryn Ann?
> >                 Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >                 Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >                 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >                 [2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> >      [[11]3][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                 [4][15]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >                 Join the Libertarian Party at:
> >      [5][12][16]http://lp.org/membership
> >                 On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> >                     I agree with the ED on scenario 1.  I lean towards
> >           agreeing
> >                 about
> >                     Scenario 2.
> >                     There should also be LNC training, at the start of
> >      each
> >           term
> >                 (or, at
> >                     least, this is my suggestion to future LNCs) about
> >           recognizing
> >                 issues
> >                     relating to duties of directors.
> >                     Joshua A. Katz
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Joshua+A.+Katz&entry=gmail&source=g>
> >                     On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Wes Benedict
> >                 [13]<[1][6][17]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> >                     wrote:
> >                       Scenario 1.
> >                       If the LNC wants to encourage the chair to
> > approve
> >           reimbursing
> >                 Caryn
> >                       Ann Harlos for expenses for travel outside of her
> >      region
> >           for
> >                 the
> >                       purpose of recruiting dues-paying members, then
> > the
> >      LNC
> >           can
> >                 pass a
> >                       motion to that effect.
> >                       ==========
> >                       Unless that happens, I lean towards taking
> > Joshua's
> >           advice of
> >                       discontinuing the practice, given that no one has
> >      spoken
> >           up in
> >                       support, and that Caryn Ann has rescinded her
> >           willingness.
> >                       I think Caryn Ann probably recruited more
> >      dues-paying
> >           members
> >                 to the
> >                       national LP in the past 12 months than all other
> >      LNC
> >           members
> >                       combined.
> >                       Aaron Starr started a program called "Give or
> > Get".
> >      It
> >           was
> >                 quite
> >                       successful, was in 2006 to 2008 and you can read
> >      about
> >           in the
> >                 LNC
> >                       minutes here:
> >
> >      [2][7][14][18]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> >                     I believe flights and hotel expenses were covered
> > for
> >      a
> >           few LNC
> >                     members for the "Give or Get" program.  I point
> > that
> >      out
> >           because
> >                     there's a precedent for paying travel expenses for
> >      LNC
> >           members to
> >               do
> >                     fundraising.
> >                     The LNC has routinely reimbursed the current and
> >      former
> >           Chairs
> >               for
> >                     travel expenses related to party business including
> >           fundraisers,
> >               but
> >                     excluding LNC meetings, and in accordance with the
> >      Policy
> >           Manual.
> >                     ==========
> >                     Scenario 2.
> >                     While typing this note a donor has offered to help
> >      cover
> >           Caryn
> >               Ann's
> >                     expenses for this purpose. If the donor is willing
> > to
> >           cover 100%
> >               of
> >                     those expenses, and if the donor reimburses Caryn
> > Ann
> >           directly,
> >               and
> >                     then the donor reports the reimbursements to me as
> > an
> >           in-kind
> >                     contribution (probably with the assistance of Caryn
> >      Ann),
> >           that
> >               would
> >                     take control of the process out of my hands and out
> >      of the
> >           LNC's
> >                     hands.
> >                     ==========
> >                     I recommend the LNC vote regarding Scenario 1, so
> > you
> >      can
> >           make it
> >                     more clear whether or not you approve having LNC
> >      members
> >           have
> >                     expenses reimbursed for raising funds, but that's
> > up
> >      to
> >           you all.
> >               As
> >                     we ramp up our fundraising efforts, it will help me
> >      to
> >           know if I
> >                     should make staff the primary relationship builders
> >      with
> >           our
> >               donors,
> >                     or if I should keep the opportunity open for board
> >      members
> >           as
> >               well.
> >                     I also encourage feedback from individual LNC
> > members
> >           regarding
> >                     Scenario 2 even though technically I don't think
> >      approval
> >           is
> >                     required. I'd like that feedback because I'm
> > willing
> >      to
> >           cooperate
> >                     with Caryn Ann and the donor if there's not a lot
> > of
> >           opposition
> >               by
> >                     the LNC. If there's a lot of opposition by the LNC,
> >      I'll
> >           be less
> >                     cooperative with Caryn Ann as she recruits members
> >      and
> >           raises
> >               funds
> >                     for the party.
> >                     Thanks,
> >                     Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >                     Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >                       [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >                       [4][8](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> >           [5][[15]9][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                       [6][10][20]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >                       Join the Libertarian Party at:
> >           [7][11][16][21]http://lp.org/membership
> >                   On 2/23/2018 12:01 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> >                       Wes,
> >                       Thank you for opening a discussion on this.  I do
> >      not
> >           believe
> >               it is
> >                       proper to use party funds to send LNC members to
> >      state
> >               conventions
> >                       unless they are "lame ducks" (and, honestly,
> >      probably
> >           not then
> >                       either).  The facts provided are enlightening and
> >           important,
> >               but
> >                   the
> >                       question here is about the principle, not the
> >      people or
> >           the
> >                   individual
> >                       circumstances.  The principle is that, as you
> > note
> >      in
> >           your
> >               email,
> >                   this
> >                       is a discretionary decision by staff.  Staff is
> >           determining,
> >               based,
> >                   to
> >                       be sure, on perfectly legitimate factors, which
> > LNC
> >           members are
> >                   being
> >                       sent and where.  There is nothing compelling
> > staff
> >      in
> >           the
> >               future to
> >                   use
> >                       the factors you identify here, and different,
> > less
> >           legitimate
> >                   factors,
> >                       could be used in the future.  The way to prevent
> >      that is
> >           "all
> >               or
> >                       nothing."  But "all" is impractical, and also not
> > a
> >      good
> >           idea.
> >                       Other corporations handle this in a more direct
> >      fashion
> >           - they
> >               pay
> >                       directors.  We don't do that (and I'm not
> >      suggesting
> >           it).  In
> >               fact,
> >                   we
> >                       encourage directors to donate, and I highly
> >      appreciate
> >           that Ms.
> >                   Harlos
> >                       does so.  I don't see how it changes this
> >      arrangement,
> >           though.
> >               We
> >                   have
> >                       rules against being an employee and a director
> >           simultaneously -
> >               to
> >                   the
> >                       extent an LNC member benefits (in addition to the
> >      party
> >               benefits)
> >                   from
> >                       such travel paid for by the party, the
> > arrangement
> >      is
> >           somewhat
> >               akin
> >                   to
> >                       employing that director to provide a service: in
> >      this
> >           case,
> >                   membership
> >                       recruitment.  Maybe Ms. Harlos gets no benefit at
> >      all
> >           from such
> >                   travel,
> >                       but will that be true for future LNC members?
> > The
> >           potentials
> >               for
> >                       self-dealing are numerous.  Directors play a role
> >      in
> >           selecting
> >               and
> >                       hiring staff - could directors hire and retain
> >      staff who
> >           will
> >                   provide
> >                       travel for those specific directors, and in turn,
> >      then
> >           enjoy an
> >                       advantage in future LNC elections?
> >                       I have every confidence that Ms. Harlos does not
> >           campaign while
> >               at
> >                       these conventions.  If an LNC member attends a
> >           convention and
> >               is
> >                   highly
> >                       visible (you can't recruit national members if
> > you
> >      sit
> >           in the
> >               back
> >                   of
> >                       the room quietly), benefits are still gained,
> >      albeit
> >               incidentally
> >                   and
> >                       without that being the motive, in future
> > elections.
> >           It's not a
> >                   policy
> >                       manual violation because they're no campaigning,
> >      but the
> >               conflicts
> >                       remain potentially large.  By definition, it is a
> >           benefit not
> >                   available
> >                       to other candidates - the reason it doesn't
> > violate
> >      the
> >           policy
> >                   manual
> >                       is that it's not done in the role of candidate.
> >                       Be that as it may, we could still decide that the
> >           benefits
> >               outweigh
> >                   the
> >                       dangers.  That would be a reasonable decision.
> >      However,
> >           I am
> >               of
> >                   the
> >                       opinion that before it began, it should have been
> >           disclosed to
> >               the
> >                       board and a vote taken of the disinterested
> >      directors.
> >           It
> >               could be
> >                       pointed out that, potentially at least, there
> > would
> >      be
> >           no
> >                   disinterested
> >                       directors in such a decision (at least in spirit)
> > -
> >      that
> >           would
> >               be a
> >                       reason not to do it.
> >                       Your answer to why you aren't sending other LNC
> >      members
> >           to
> >               state
> >                       conventions is perfectly appropriate and
> > rational.
> >      You
> >           should
> >               not
> >                   send
> >                       people to state conventions at party expense who
> >      will
> >           not
> >               produce a
> >                       positive return on investment (I, for instance,
> >      probably
> >                   wouldn't).  Of
> >                       course, other LNC members could, conceivably,
> >      produce
> >           value in
> >                   other
> >                       ways.  I have provided parliamentary services for
> >           several state
> >                       parties, sometimes with funding from the state
> >      party,
> >           sometimes
> >               at
> >                   my
> >                       own expense.  That's not something that produces
> >      funds
> >           for the
> >                   party,
> >                       of course, but it does provide affiliate support,
> >           something we
> >               also
> >                       do.  I most certainly should not do that on party
> >           funds.  What,
> >                       precisely, is the difference?  Well, membership
> >      brings
> >           in money
> >                   and, as
> >                       you note, numbers have been falling.  Does that
> >      make it
> >           a
> >               priority
> >                   over
> >                       providing other services, or the many other
> > things
> >      we
> >           could
> >               send
> >                   LNC
> >                       members to do?  Well, maybe.  The LNC did not
> > adopt
> >      any
> >           goals
> >               this
> >                       term.  Last term, the LNC adopted goals, and
> >               retaining/increasing
> >                       membership wasn't one of them.  I believe you
> > told
> >      us
> >           that you
> >                   weren't
> >                       focusing on membership numbers, as a result.  As
> >      has
> >           come up in
> >                   prior
> >                       discussions, I agree with not prioritizing
> >      membership
> >           numbers -
> >               I
> >                   think
> >                       that, over the long term (granted, not the
> >      immediate
> >           term) we
> >               need
> >                   to
> >                       focus on relying less on membership for revenue
> > and
> >           developing
> >                   other
> >                       streams.  To your credit, staff (and especially
> >      Lauren)
> >           has
> >               been
> >                       developing other revenue streams, and doing so
> > very
> >               effectively.
> >                       Membership does have the advantage of predictable
> >      cash
> >           flow,
> >                       admittedly.  But I simply am not that worried
> > about
> >           falling
> >                   membership
> >                       numbers persay - if anything, I think of
> > membership
> >           numbers as
> >               the
> >                       tail, not the dog.  That is, I think we can
> > improve
> >           membership
> >               by
> >                   doing
> >                       things like electing candidates to public office
> >      and
> >           having
> >               them
> >                       implement libertarian policies.  More
> > importantly,
> >      this
> >           board
> >                   doesn't
> >                       seem to regard it as a priority.  But that is a
> >      somewhat
> >               different
> >                       question.
> >                       Or, to use another example, members of the LNC
> >      travel to
> >           states
> >                   where
> >                       signatures are needed and gather hundreds of
> >      volunteer
> >               signatures.
> >                       Granted, they don't desire to be paid for their
> >      expenses
> >           in
> >               those
> >                       cases, but if they did, I don't think staff would
> >      agree
> >           to pay
> >               -
> >                   and I
> >                       think that would be the right call, most of the
> >      time at
> >           least.
> >                   That
> >                       also doesn't put money in our pocket, although it
> >      has
> >           the
> >               ultimate
> >                       effect (if history is any guide) of keeping money
> >      there
> >           that
> >               would
> >                       otherwise leave.
> >                       So, in summary, my position is that we should not
> >      fund
> >           LNC
> >               member
> >                       travel, even if the LNC member agrees not to run
> >      for
> >               reelection.
> >                   But I
> >                       recognize that opinions can differ on that, so my
> >           additional
> >                   opinion is
> >                       that the board is within its rights to decide
> >      otherwise,
> >           but
> >               that
> >                       potentially conflicted transactions involving
> > board
> >           members
> >               should
> >                   be
> >                       discussed with the board ahead of time, and
> >      approved by
> >           a
> >               majority
> >                   of
> >                       disinterested directors.  What's done is done.  I
> >      think
> >           that
> >               before
> >                   it
> >                       continues, action should be taken to approve it
> > (or
> >      not)
> >           by a
> >                   majority
> >                       of disinterested directors.  There's no rule that
> >      can
> >           compel
> >               that
> >                       outcome, it's just my opinion.
> >                       Joshua A. Katz
> >                         On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Wes Benedict
> >                       [17]<[1][8][12][22]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> >                       wrote:
> >                              Dear LNC,
> >                              Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
> >           dues-paying
> >               members
> >                   by
> >                              attending state conventions and getting
> >      people to
> >           join
> >               or
> >                         renew.
> >                              At first, she did this at state
> > conventions
> >      she
> >           was
> >                   attending
> >                         in her
> >                              region at her own expense.
> >                              Her results were so strong that I asked
> > her
> >      if
> >           she would
> >               be
> >                         willing
> >                              to go to some other states outside of her
> >      region
> >           to do
> >                   similar
> >                              fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
> >      were
> >               reimbursed.
> >                              We have been struggling to keep membership
> >      from
> >           falling.
> >               We
> >                         send
> >                              renewal emails and renewal letters that
> >      perform
> >               reasonably
> >                   well
> >                         but
> >                              pretty much exhaust that method. Other
> >      methods we
> >           try
> >               have
> >                   very
> >                         low
> >                              ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been
> > comparatively
> >           strong.
> >                              Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
> >           convention last
> >                   weekend
> >                         and
> >                              recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
> >      the
> >           national
> >               LP.
> >                              That trip is one in which we have
> > reimbursed
> >      her
> >           for her
> >                         travel.
> >                              I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
> >           conventions to
> >               have
> >                         her do
> >                              this work. No one else has done this as
> >           successfully as
> >                   Caryn
> >                         Ann.
> >                              Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay
> > her
> >      for
> >           her
> >               time.
> >                              For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable
> > to
> >      take
> >           the
> >               time to
> >                         attend,
> >                              I will be sending our staff member Jess
> >      Mears.
> >           The thing
> >                   with
> >                         Jess
> >                              is that we pay her for her hours to
> > travel,
> >           attend, and
> >                   return
> >                         from
> >                              state conventions. She's unlikely to get
> > as
> >      high
> >           of a
> >               ROI.
> >                              I received a complaint today that it is
> >           inappropriate
> >               for
> >                         someone
> >                              running for a position on the LNC to have
> >      travel
> >               reimbursed.
> >                              I sympathize with the complaint, but do
> > not
> >      think
> >           it's a
> >                         violation
> >                              of our policies.
> >                              Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC
> > for
> >      your
> >               feedback.
> >                   If
> >                         you
> >                              request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
> >      or any
> >           other
> >               LNC
> >                         member
> >                              to state conventions for the purpose of
> >           recruiting
> >                   dues-paying
> >                              members, we can end the program.
> >                              A reasonable question might be, "I'm
> > willing
> >      to
> >           go to
> >               state
> >                              convention at the expense of the LNC and
> >      recruit
> >                   members--why
> >                         don't
> >                              you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
> >      proved
> >           her
> >                         willingness
> >                              and capability within her own region. No
> >      other
> >           LNC
> >               members
> >                   have
> >                              mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
> >           members from
> >                   their
> >                              states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
> >      are not
> >           able
> >               to
> >                         attend
> >                              every state convention. If you are
> >      interested in
> >               helping,
> >                   and
> >                              willing to prove your ability first at a
> >      state in
> >           your
> >                   region
> >                         or at
> >                              another state at your own expense, let me
> >      know
> >           and we
> >               might
> >                   be
> >                         able
> >                                [9]to try that. And then we can report
> > the
> >           results.
> >                                Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
> >      some
> >           of the
> >                           fundraising
> >                                results from Caryn Ann.
> >                                I welcome your feedback.
> >                           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >                           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >                           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >                             [2][10][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> >                 [1][3][11][[18]14][23]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                             [2][4][12][15][24]facebook.com/libertarians
> >           @LPNational
> >                             Join the Libertarian Party at:
> >                       [3][5][13][16][19][25]http://lp.org/membership
> >                                -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >                                Subject: Harlos Fundraising
> >                                   Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
> >                                 From: Robert S. Kraus
> >               [4][20]<[6][14][17][26]robert.kraus at lp.org>
> >                                   To: Wes Benedict
> >           [5]<[7][15][[21]18][27]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >               >
> >                           I have Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
> >      of
> >           $2,335.00
> >               for
> >                     82
> >                           members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
> >      have
> >           also
> >                     contributed
> >                           a
> >                           net total excluding conv related gifts of
> >      $6,261.74
> >           since
> >               2016
> >                           convention - bunch of them to Hist
> > Preservation
> >      of
> >           course
> >               so
> >                     she has
> >                           her
> >                           fans)
> >                           In addition she is likely 95% responsible for
> >      the
> >           $12,120
> >                     raised for
> >                           Historic Preservation
> >                           Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
> >      2016
> >               convention
> >                     (non
> >                           convention related - however $1525 was for
> > Hist
> >               Preservation)
> >                           --
> >                           Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
> >                           [[22]6]Operations at LP.org
> >                           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >                           1444 Duke Street
> >                           Alexandria, VA 22314
> >                           Ph: [8]202.333.0008 x 231
> >                           References
> >                                1.
> >      mailto:[9][16][[23]19][28]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                                2.
> >           [10][17][20][24][29]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                                3.
> >      [11][18][21][25][30]http://lp.org/membership
> >                                4.
> >      mailto:[12][19][[26]22][31]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                                5.
> >      mailto:[13][20][[27]23][32]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                                6. mailto:[[28]14]Operations at LP.org
> >                       References
> >                           1. mailto:[21][[29]24][33]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                           2. tel:[22][25](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >                           3. mailto:[23][[30]26][34]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                           4.
> >      [24][27][31][35]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                           5. [25][28][32][36]http://lp.org/membership
> >                           6. mailto:[26][[33]29][37]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                           7. mailto:[27][[34]30][38]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                           8. tel:[28]202.333.0008 x 231
> >                           9. mailto:[29][[35]31][39]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                          10.
> >      [30][32][36][40]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                          11. [31][33][37][41]http://lp.org/membership
> >                          12. mailto:[32][[38]34][42]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                          13. mailto:[33][[39]35][43]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                          14. mailto:[[40]34]Operations at LP.org
> >                 References
> >                     1. mailto:[[41]36][44]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                     2.
> >      [37][42][45]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> >                     3. [38][43][46]https://maps.google.com/?q=144
> >                 4+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+22314&entry=gmail&source=g
> >                     4. tel:[39](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >                     5. mailto:[[44]40][47]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                     6. [41][45][48]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                     7. [42][46][49]http://lp.org/membership
> >                     8. mailto:[[47]43][50]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                     9. [44][48][51]https://maps.google.com/?q=to+
> >
> > try+that.+And+then+we+can+report+the&entry=gmail&source=g
> >                    10. tel:[45](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >                    11. mailto:[[49]46][52]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    12. [47][50][53]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                    13. [48][51][54]http://lp.org/membership
> >                    14. mailto:[[52]49][55]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                    15. mailto:[[53]50][56]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    16. mailto:[[54]51][57]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    17. [52][55][58]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                    18. [53][56][59]http://lp.org/membership
> >                    19. mailto:[[57]54][60]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                    20. mailto:[[58]55][61]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    21. mailto:[[59]56][62]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    22. tel:[57](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >                    23. mailto:[[60]58][63]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    24. [59][61][64]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                    25. [60][62][65]http://lp.org/membership
> >                    26. mailto:[[63]61][66]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                    27. mailto:[[64]62][67]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    28. tel:[63]202.333.0008 x 231
> >                    29. mailto:[[65]64][68]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    30. [65][66][69]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >                    31. [66][67][70]http://lp.org/membership
> >                    32. mailto:[[68]67][71]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >                    33. mailto:[[69]68][72]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >                    34. mailto:[[70]69]Operations at LP.org
> >           References
> >               1. [71]mailto:[73]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >               2. [72]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >               3. [73]mailto:[74]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >               4. [74][75]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >               5. [75][76]http://lp.org/membership
> >               6. [76]mailto:[77]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >               7. [77][78]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> >               8. [78]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >               9. [79]mailto:[79]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              10. [80][80]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >              11. [81][81]http://lp.org/membership
> >              12. [82]mailto:[82]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              13. [83]tel:(202)
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=3%5Dtel:(202)&entry=gmail&source=g>333-0008
> ext. 232
> >              14. [84]mailto:[83]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              15. [85][84]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >              16. [86][85]http://lp.org/membership
> >              17. [87]mailto:[86]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >              18. [88]mailto:[87]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              19. [89]mailto:[88]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              20. [90][89]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >              21. [91][90]http://lp.org/membership
> >              22. [92]mailto:[91]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >              23. [93]mailto:[92]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              24. [94]mailto:[93]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              25. [95]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >              26. [96]mailto:[94]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              27. [97][95]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >              28. [98][96]http://lp.org/membership
> >              29. [99]mailto:[97]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >              30. [100]mailto:[98]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              31. [101]mailto:[99]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              32. [102][100]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >              33. [103][101]http://lp.org/membership
> >              34. [104]mailto:[102]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >              35. [105]mailto:[103]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              36. [106]mailto:[104] <wes.benedict at lp.org>
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   There have been absolutely incorrect items mixed in.  So I stand in my
   comment.
   It was reported.
   I doubt that will make the gossip rounds.
   No matter that is life in the LP fortunately.
   I’m sure a new outrage will be easily found.
   I completely appreciate the legitimate concerns.  Very much so. And
   completely legitimate concerns can and have been salted with political
   smear.
   On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:40 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
   <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

     Apparently, very few LNC members read your report.
     This also doesn't address the issue of this being discussed by the
     LNC,
     before a decision was made.  Your report is after a decision was
     made,
     and without this board weighing-in.
     ---
     Elizabeth Van Horn
     LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
     Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
     Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
     Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
     [2]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     On 2018-02-25 14:17, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     > Thank you Wes.  Actually last night I did wake up and realize THIS
     WAS
     >    IN MY REPORT.  I put EVERYTHING in my reports.
     >
     >    Any LNC member could have read that.  It was sent to party
     members.
     > It
     >    was posted online multiple places.
     >
     >    I reported it.
     >
     >    I hope that at least settles part of the political smear job
     that
     > has
     >    ensued.
     >
     >    And I am going to relisten to that entire NOLA meeting (though
     there
     >    was equipment malfunction for part of the time) as I am pretty
     > positive
     >    it was discussed informally there.  Wes or Lauren may recall.
     >
     >    All of our policies were followed.  I DID DISCLOSE THIS TO THE
     LNC.
     >
     >    -Caryn Ann
     >
     >    On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:24 AM Wes Benedict
     > <[1][3]wes.benedict at lp.org>
     >    wrote:
     >
     >         Substantial updates below.
     >         Robert Kraus, based on the general direction provided by
     the
     >      chair (a
     >         copy pasted below), please issue the reimbursement to
     Caryn Ann
     >      Harlos
     >         ($439.73 I believe), but wait until Tuesday morning to do
     it to
     >      give
     >         the LNC the opportunity to get a motion started to deny
     the
     >         reimbursement in case they want to do that (something I
     think
     > is
     >         unlikely, but of course possible). If a motion addressing
     these
     >      issues
     >         has co-sponsors, even though we won't know for 10 days
     whether
     > or
     >      not
     >         it would pass, if a motion were in process, I'd find it
     prudent
     >      to hold
     >         off on the reimbursement until such a motion has time to
     >      complete.
     >         Although it's among lots of other information, I think
     it's
     > worth
     >         pointing out that Ms. Harlos included that she would be
     sent to
     >      some
     >         state convention in 2018 in her region report at the
     December
     >      2017 LNC
     >         meeting in New Orleans. Excerpt below:
     >           Membership Growth -  "I have been obtaining the lists of
     >      Regional
     >           lapsed members for Region 1 and making calls to
     encourage
     >      renewal
     >           earlier this year. I also have been promoting National
     >      memberships
     >           at the state conventions and have personally signed up
     about
     >      150 new
     >           members between in-person and on-line renewals. I am
     being
     > sent
     >      to
     >           several conventions in 2018 by the national party to
     recruit.
     > I
     >           constantly coach and encourage my region regarding
     national
     >           memberships."
     >
     >
     >
     [1][2][4]http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-12-09_LNC
     _Me
     >      eting_
     >         Region_1_Report.pdf
     >         I do not recall if this program was discussed during some
     > portion
     >      of
     >         the LNC meeting (like budget or elsewhere). Daniel Hayes
     >      mentioned he
     >         recalls hearing about the program but that could have been
     >      outside of
     >         the meeting. I don't think I personally brought it up
     during
     > the
     >      staff
     >         portion of the meeting. In case anyone is inclined to do
     review
     >      the LNC
     >         meeting, the LNC meeting can be watched again here:
     >
     [2][3][5]https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/
     >         Going forward . . .
     >         Caryn Ann Harlos, please resume our plans for you to
     attend
     > state
     >         conventions, to recruit members, and to have your travel
     >      reimbursed by
     >         the LNC (again, like above, unless the LNC initiates a
     motion
     >      aimed at
     >         ending the practice in which case it would be wise to wait
     for
     >      that
     >         motion to complete). Going forward, I think we should
     restrict
     >         reimbursements for visits outside of your region. Thank
     you for
     >      your
     >         service. Sorry about the kerfuffle.
     >         If any other LNC members are interested in visiting a
     state
     >      convention
     >         to recruit members and to have the expenses covered by the
     > party,
     >         please identify the state convention you'd like to try and
     I'll
     >      let you
     >         know if that one is covered yet and if I think it's a good
     >      opportunity.
     >         If interested, for transparency purposes, I think it's
     best to
     >      make
     >         your offer publicly on this LNC discuss list. Also, please
     >      provide
     >         projections on the expenses and revenue you expect. I'll
     not
     >      personally
     >         approve a trip that is very likely to have too poor of an
     ROI
     >      (e.g. a
     >         trip to an expensive place to reach with a likely low
     >      attendance--no
     >         offense intended, but Hawaii comes to mind--I'll not
     approve
     >      Hawaii
     >         unless someone makes a really good case for it). I will
     intend
     > to
     >         report your results and based on your results from your
     first
     >      state
     >         we'll see if a second state is warranted.
     >         LNC members, this project is not critical. It will likely
     cost
     >      less
     >         than 1% of our budget, and will likely bring in less than
     1% to
     >      3% of
     >         our members. If it's too much of a distraction, I will not
     be
     >      offended
     >         if you vote to end the program and it likely won't have a
     major
     >      impact
     >         (unless more LNC members participate and are more
     successful
     > than
     >      I
     >         anticipate).
     >         I do like trying new things to get our membership up, and
     like
     >      using
     >         volunteers when they are available if the staff required
     to
     >      support the
     >         volunteers isn't overly burdensome. I also like having LNC
     >      members use
     >         their talents when available.
     >         As usual, our operations director Robert Kraus is always
     happy
     > to
     >         provide lists of people to LNC members to call for
     membership
     >      renewals
     >         and donations to the national party from the comfort of
     your
     >      home. If
     >         interested in making fundraising calls, let me or Robert
     know.
     >         (The chair's comments are below as referenced above.)
     >         Thanks,
     >         --Wes Benedict
     >         -------- Forwarded Message --------
     >          Subject: [Lnc-business] Expense Reimbursement for
     Fundraising
     >             Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:06:19 -0700
     >             From: Nicholas Sarwark [3]<[4][6]chair at lp.org>
     >         Reply-To: [4][5][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >               To: [5][6][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >      Dear All,
     >      Expense reimbursements to LNC members have been made (and
     will be
     >      made
     >      in the future) according to the rules set out in our policy
     > manual.
     >      The Chair and/or the Treasurer (depending on the situation)
     > approve
     >      the expenses and no officer approves his or her own expenses.
     >      When expense reimbursements for party business are made to a
     > member
     >      of
     >      the LNC, they are reported on the related party transactions
     > portion
     >      of the Treasurer's report.
     >      As our fundraising infrastructure has improved, there are
     more
     >      opportunities for fundraising events than there is
     availability
     > from
     >      only staff and the Chair. If LNC members are able to handle
     events
     >      at
     >      the direction of the Executive Director or Head of
     Development,
     > they
     >      have been (and will continue to be) reimbursed for their
     expenses
     >      associated with those events.
     >      Membership recruitment is one part of an effective
     fundraising
     >      strategy.  When a person makes an initial financial
     commitment to
     >      the
     >      party, they are much more likely to make future financial
     >      commitments
     >      over their lifetime (and sometimes at the end of it).
     >      Absent a change in the policy manual or specific guidance in
     the
     >      form
     >      of a vote of the national committee, it is my intention to
     proceed
     >      as
     >      we have been doing in consultation with the Treasurer,
     Executive
     >      Director, and the Head of Development.
     >      Yours in liberty,
     >      Nick
     >      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >      1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >      (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [6][7][9]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >      [8][10]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     >      Join the Libertarian Party at:
     [7][9][11]http://lp.org/membership
     >         Wes Benedict wrote on 2/23/2018 2:09 PM:
     >           Thanks for the response.
     >           Joshua, we have sent Chair Sarwark and Vice Chair Vohra
     to
     >           fundraising events and have reimbursed their travel
     expenses.
     >           Our Head of Development is setting up additional
     fundraising
     >      events
     >           with the intention of the chair to attend.
     >           What do you think about that? Would you recommend we
     cease
     >           reimbursing the travel expenses for sending the chair
     for
     >           fundraising events?
     >           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >           (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [8][10][12]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >           [11][13]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     >           Join the Libertarian Party at:
     > [9][12][14]http://lp.org/membership
     >           On 2/23/2018 1:56 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
     >               As I said, what's done is done.  You should send the
     > funds.
     >           That's
     >               just my opinion, of course, since I can't act for
     this
     >           organization,
     >               but it's my opinion.
     >               Joshua A. Katz
     >               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Wes Benedict
     >           [10]<[1][13][15]wes.benedict at lp.org>
     >               wrote:
     >                 Here's where we stand expense-wise on this if I
     have my
     >      facts
     >                 correct--and I have gotten facts wrong on this so
     I
     > want
     >      to be
     >                 transparent and corrected if I'm wrong.
     >                 So far, we have reimbursed Caryn Ann Harlos
     $198.96 for
     >      SW
     >           Airlines
     >                 under "Membership Fundraising Costs" and I think
     that
     > was
     >      for
     >           the
     >                 Arizona state convention.
     >                 Additionally, Caryn Ann submitted expenses for
     >      reimbursement
     >           for
     >                 $439.73 to be paid for fundraising at the WA state
     >      convention.
     >                 I submitted those expenses to the treasurer with a
     >      request for
     >                 approval, received the approval, but we haven't
     sent
     >      those
     >           funds to
     >                 Caryn Ann yet. Approval attached, if attachments
     are
     >      working
     >           today.
     >                 Now I'm unsure what I should do about the $439.73.
     >                 I'm pretty sure I should go ahead and have the
     funds
     >      issued,
     >                 because, this was all done in compliance with the
     > policy
     >           manual and
     >                 with the knowledge of the chair and treasurer.
     >                 Is there any opposition to me issuing the funds to
     > Caryn
     >      Ann
     >           for the
     >                 $439.73?
     >                 Today coincidentally we received the memberships
     in the
     >      mail
     >           from
     >                 WA:  a total of 16 memberships for $690 total plus
     a
     > $25
     >      a
     >           month
     >                 donor.
     >                 Josh, what do you think? Do you think I should
     issue
     > the
     >           payment of
     >                 $439.73 to Caryn Ann?
     >                 Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >                 Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >                 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >                 [2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
     >      [[11]3][14][16]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                 [4][15][17]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     >                 Join the Libertarian Party at:
     >      [5][12][16][18]http://lp.org/membership
     >                 On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
     >                     I agree with the ED on scenario 1.  I lean
     towards
     >           agreeing
     >                 about
     >                     Scenario 2.
     >                     There should also be LNC training, at the
     start of
     >      each
     >           term
     >                 (or, at
     >                     least, this is my suggestion to future LNCs)
     about
     >           recognizing
     >                 issues
     >                     relating to duties of directors.
     >                     [19]Joshua A. Katz
     >                     On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Wes Benedict
     >                 [13]<[1][6][17][20]wes.benedict at lp.org>
     >                     wrote:
     >                       Scenario 1.
     >                       If the LNC wants to encourage the chair to
     > approve
     >           reimbursing
     >                 Caryn
     >                       Ann Harlos for expenses for travel outside
     of her
     >      region
     >           for
     >                 the
     >                       purpose of recruiting dues-paying members,
     then
     > the
     >      LNC
     >           can
     >                 pass a
     >                       motion to that effect.
     >                       ==========
     >                       Unless that happens, I lean towards taking
     > Joshua's
     >           advice of
     >                       discontinuing the practice, given that no
     one has
     >      spoken
     >           up in
     >                       support, and that Caryn Ann has rescinded
     her
     >           willingness.
     >                       I think Caryn Ann probably recruited more
     >      dues-paying
     >           members
     >                 to the
     >                       national LP in the past 12 months than all
     other
     >      LNC
     >           members
     >                       combined.
     >                       Aaron Starr started a program called "Give
     or
     > Get".
     >      It
     >           was
     >                 quite
     >                       successful, was in 2006 to 2008 and you can
     read
     >      about
     >           in the
     >                 LNC
     >                       minutes here:
     >
     >      [2][7][14][18][21]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
     >                     I believe flights and hotel expenses were
     covered
     > for
     >      a
     >           few LNC
     >                     members for the "Give or Get" program.  I
     point
     > that
     >      out
     >           because
     >                     there's a precedent for paying travel expenses
     for
     >      LNC
     >           members to
     >               do
     >                     fundraising.
     >                     The LNC has routinely reimbursed the current
     and
     >      former
     >           Chairs
     >               for
     >                     travel expenses related to party business
     including
     >           fundraisers,
     >               but
     >                     excluding LNC meetings, and in accordance with
     the
     >      Policy
     >           Manual.
     >                     ==========
     >                     Scenario 2.
     >                     While typing this note a donor has offered to
     help
     >      cover
     >           Caryn
     >               Ann's
     >                     expenses for this purpose. If the donor is
     willing
     > to
     >           cover 100%
     >               of
     >                     those expenses, and if the donor reimburses
     Caryn
     > Ann
     >           directly,
     >               and
     >                     then the donor reports the reimbursements to
     me as
     > an
     >           in-kind
     >                     contribution (probably with the assistance of
     Caryn
     >      Ann),
     >           that
     >               would
     >                     take control of the process out of my hands
     and out
     >      of the
     >           LNC's
     >                     hands.
     >                     ==========
     >                     I recommend the LNC vote regarding Scenario 1,
     so
     > you
     >      can
     >           make it
     >                     more clear whether or not you approve having
     LNC
     >      members
     >           have
     >                     expenses reimbursed for raising funds, but
     that's
     > up
     >      to
     >           you all.
     >               As
     >                     we ramp up our fundraising efforts, it will
     help me
     >      to
     >           know if I
     >                     should make staff the primary relationship
     builders
     >      with
     >           our
     >               donors,
     >                     or if I should keep the opportunity open for
     board
     >      members
     >           as
     >               well.
     >                     I also encourage feedback from individual LNC
     > members
     >           regarding
     >                     Scenario 2 even though technically I don't
     think
     >      approval
     >           is
     >                     required. I'd like that feedback because I'm
     > willing
     >      to
     >           cooperate
     >                     with Caryn Ann and the donor if there's not a
     lot
     > of
     >           opposition
     >               by
     >                     the LNC. If there's a lot of opposition by the
     LNC,
     >      I'll
     >           be less
     >                     cooperative with Caryn Ann as she recruits
     members
     >      and
     >           raises
     >               funds
     >                     for the party.
     >                     Thanks,
     >                     Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >                     Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >                       [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >                       [4][8](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
     >           [5][[15]9][19][22]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                       [6][10][20][23]facebook.com/libertarians
     @LPNational
     >                       Join the Libertarian Party at:
     >           [7][11][16][21][24]http://lp.org/membership
     >                   On 2/23/2018 12:01 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:
     >                       Wes,
     >                       Thank you for opening a discussion on this.
     I do
     >      not
     >           believe
     >               it is
     >                       proper to use party funds to send LNC
     members to
     >      state
     >               conventions
     >                       unless they are "lame ducks" (and, honestly,
     >      probably
     >           not then
     >                       either).  The facts provided are
     enlightening and
     >           important,
     >               but
     >                   the
     >                       question here is about the principle, not
     the
     >      people or
     >           the
     >                   individual
     >                       circumstances.  The principle is that, as
     you
     > note
     >      in
     >           your
     >               email,
     >                   this
     >                       is a discretionary decision by staff.  Staff
     is
     >           determining,
     >               based,
     >                   to
     >                       be sure, on perfectly legitimate factors,
     which
     > LNC
     >           members are
     >                   being
     >                       sent and where.  There is nothing compelling
     > staff
     >      in
     >           the
     >               future to
     >                   use
     >                       the factors you identify here, and
     different,
     > less
     >           legitimate
     >                   factors,
     >                       could be used in the future.  The way to
     prevent
     >      that is
     >           "all
     >               or
     >                       nothing."  But "all" is impractical, and
     also not
     > a
     >      good
     >           idea.
     >                       Other corporations handle this in a more
     direct
     >      fashion
     >           - they
     >               pay
     >                       directors.  We don't do that (and I'm not
     >      suggesting
     >           it).  In
     >               fact,
     >                   we
     >                       encourage directors to donate, and I highly
     >      appreciate
     >           that Ms.
     >                   Harlos
     >                       does so.  I don't see how it changes this
     >      arrangement,
     >           though.
     >               We
     >                   have
     >                       rules against being an employee and a
     director
     >           simultaneously -
     >               to
     >                   the
     >                       extent an LNC member benefits (in addition
     to the
     >      party
     >               benefits)
     >                   from
     >                       such travel paid for by the party, the
     > arrangement
     >      is
     >           somewhat
     >               akin
     >                   to
     >                       employing that director to provide a
     service: in
     >      this
     >           case,
     >                   membership
     >                       recruitment.  Maybe Ms. Harlos gets no
     benefit at
     >      all
     >           from such
     >                   travel,
     >                       but will that be true for future LNC
     members?
     > The
     >           potentials
     >               for
     >                       self-dealing are numerous.  Directors play a
     role
     >      in
     >           selecting
     >               and
     >                       hiring staff - could directors hire and
     retain
     >      staff who
     >           will
     >                   provide
     >                       travel for those specific directors, and in
     turn,
     >      then
     >           enjoy an
     >                       advantage in future LNC elections?
     >                       I have every confidence that Ms. Harlos does
     not
     >           campaign while
     >               at
     >                       these conventions.  If an LNC member attends
     a
     >           convention and
     >               is
     >                   highly
     >                       visible (you can't recruit national members
     if
     > you
     >      sit
     >           in the
     >               back
     >                   of
     >                       the room quietly), benefits are still
     gained,
     >      albeit
     >               incidentally
     >                   and
     >                       without that being the motive, in future
     > elections.
     >           It's not a
     >                   policy
     >                       manual violation because they're no
     campaigning,
     >      but the
     >               conflicts
     >                       remain potentially large.  By definition, it
     is a
     >           benefit not
     >                   available
     >                       to other candidates - the reason it doesn't
     > violate
     >      the
     >           policy
     >                   manual
     >                       is that it's not done in the role of
     candidate.
     >                       Be that as it may, we could still decide
     that the
     >           benefits
     >               outweigh
     >                   the
     >                       dangers.  That would be a reasonable
     decision.
     >      However,
     >           I am
     >               of
     >                   the
     >                       opinion that before it began, it should have
     been
     >           disclosed to
     >               the
     >                       board and a vote taken of the disinterested
     >      directors.
     >           It
     >               could be
     >                       pointed out that, potentially at least,
     there
     > would
     >      be
     >           no
     >                   disinterested
     >                       directors in such a decision (at least in
     spirit)
     > -
     >      that
     >           would
     >               be a
     >                       reason not to do it.
     >                       Your answer to why you aren't sending other
     LNC
     >      members
     >           to
     >               state
     >                       conventions is perfectly appropriate and
     > rational.
     >      You
     >           should
     >               not
     >                   send
     >                       people to state conventions at party expense
     who
     >      will
     >           not
     >               produce a
     >                       positive return on investment (I, for
     instance,
     >      probably
     >                   wouldn't).  Of
     >                       course, other LNC members could,
     conceivably,
     >      produce
     >           value in
     >                   other
     >                       ways.  I have provided parliamentary
     services for
     >           several state
     >                       parties, sometimes with funding from the
     state
     >      party,
     >           sometimes
     >               at
     >                   my
     >                       own expense.  That's not something that
     produces
     >      funds
     >           for the
     >                   party,
     >                       of course, but it does provide affiliate
     support,
     >           something we
     >               also
     >                       do.  I most certainly should not do that on
     party
     >           funds.  What,
     >                       precisely, is the difference?  Well,
     membership
     >      brings
     >           in money
     >                   and, as
     >                       you note, numbers have been falling.  Does
     that
     >      make it
     >           a
     >               priority
     >                   over
     >                       providing other services, or the many other
     > things
     >      we
     >           could
     >               send
     >                   LNC
     >                       members to do?  Well, maybe.  The LNC did
     not
     > adopt
     >      any
     >           goals
     >               this
     >                       term.  Last term, the LNC adopted goals, and
     >               retaining/increasing
     >                       membership wasn't one of them.  I believe
     you
     > told
     >      us
     >           that you
     >                   weren't
     >                       focusing on membership numbers, as a
     result.  As
     >      has
     >           come up in
     >                   prior
     >                       discussions, I agree with not prioritizing
     >      membership
     >           numbers -
     >               I
     >                   think
     >                       that, over the long term (granted, not the
     >      immediate
     >           term) we
     >               need
     >                   to
     >                       focus on relying less on membership for
     revenue
     > and
     >           developing
     >                   other
     >                       streams.  To your credit, staff (and
     especially
     >      Lauren)
     >           has
     >               been
     >                       developing other revenue streams, and doing
     so
     > very
     >               effectively.
     >                       Membership does have the advantage of
     predictable
     >      cash
     >           flow,
     >                       admittedly.  But I simply am not that
     worried
     > about
     >           falling
     >                   membership
     >                       numbers persay - if anything, I think of
     > membership
     >           numbers as
     >               the
     >                       tail, not the dog.  That is, I think we can
     > improve
     >           membership
     >               by
     >                   doing
     >                       things like electing candidates to public
     office
     >      and
     >           having
     >               them
     >                       implement libertarian policies.  More
     > importantly,
     >      this
     >           board
     >                   doesn't
     >                       seem to regard it as a priority.  But that
     is a
     >      somewhat
     >               different
     >                       question.
     >                       Or, to use another example, members of the
     LNC
     >      travel to
     >           states
     >                   where
     >                       signatures are needed and gather hundreds of
     >      volunteer
     >               signatures.
     >                       Granted, they don't desire to be paid for
     their
     >      expenses
     >           in
     >               those
     >                       cases, but if they did, I don't think staff
     would
     >      agree
     >           to pay
     >               -
     >                   and I
     >                       think that would be the right call, most of
     the
     >      time at
     >           least.
     >                   That
     >                       also doesn't put money in our pocket,
     although it
     >      has
     >           the
     >               ultimate
     >                       effect (if history is any guide) of keeping
     money
     >      there
     >           that
     >               would
     >                       otherwise leave.
     >                       So, in summary, my position is that we
     should not
     >      fund
     >           LNC
     >               member
     >                       travel, even if the LNC member agrees not to
     run
     >      for
     >               reelection.
     >                   But I
     >                       recognize that opinions can differ on that,
     so my
     >           additional
     >                   opinion is
     >                       that the board is within its rights to
     decide
     >      otherwise,
     >           but
     >               that
     >                       potentially conflicted transactions
     involving
     > board
     >           members
     >               should
     >                   be
     >                       discussed with the board ahead of time, and
     >      approved by
     >           a
     >               majority
     >                   of
     >                       disinterested directors.  What's done is
     done.  I
     >      think
     >           that
     >               before
     >                   it
     >                       continues, action should be taken to approve
     it
     > (or
     >      not)
     >           by a
     >                   majority
     >                       of disinterested directors.  There's no rule
     that
     >      can
     >           compel
     >               that
     >                       outcome, it's just my opinion.
     >                       Joshua A. Katz
     >                         On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Wes
     Benedict
     >                       [17]<[1][8][12][22][25]wes.benedict at lp.org>
     >                       wrote:
     >                              Dear LNC,
     >                              Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot
     of
     >           dues-paying
     >               members
     >                   by
     >                              attending state conventions and
     getting
     >      people to
     >           join
     >               or
     >                         renew.
     >                              At first, she did this at state
     > conventions
     >      she
     >           was
     >                   attending
     >                         in her
     >                              region at her own expense.
     >                              Her results were so strong that I
     asked
     > her
     >      if
     >           she would
     >               be
     >                         willing
     >                              to go to some other states outside of
     her
     >      region
     >           to do
     >                   similar
     >                              fundraising efforts if her travel
     expenses
     >      were
     >               reimbursed.
     >                              We have been struggling to keep
     membership
     >      from
     >           falling.
     >               We
     >                         send
     >                              renewal emails and renewal letters
     that
     >      perform
     >               reasonably
     >                   well
     >                         but
     >                              pretty much exhaust that method.
     Other
     >      methods we
     >           try
     >               have
     >                   very
     >                         low
     >                              ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been
     > comparatively
     >           strong.
     >                              Caryn Ann attended the Washington
     State
     >           convention last
     >                   weekend
     >                         and
     >                              recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying
     members for
     >      the
     >           national
     >               LP.
     >                              That trip is one in which we have
     > reimbursed
     >      her
     >           for her
     >                         travel.
     >                              I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more
     state
     >           conventions to
     >               have
     >                         her do
     >                              this work. No one else has done this
     as
     >           successfully as
     >                   Caryn
     >                         Ann.
     >                              Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't
     pay
     > her
     >      for
     >           her
     >               time.
     >                              For conventions that Caryn Ann is
     unable
     > to
     >      take
     >           the
     >               time to
     >                         attend,
     >                              I will be sending our staff member
     Jess
     >      Mears.
     >           The thing
     >                   with
     >                         Jess
     >                              is that we pay her for her hours to
     > travel,
     >           attend, and
     >                   return
     >                         from
     >                              state conventions. She's unlikely to
     get
     > as
     >      high
     >           of a
     >               ROI.
     >                              I received a complaint today that it
     is
     >           inappropriate
     >               for
     >                         someone
     >                              running for a position on the LNC to
     have
     >      travel
     >               reimbursed.
     >                              I sympathize with the complaint, but
     do
     > not
     >      think
     >           it's a
     >                         violation
     >                              of our policies.
     >                              Nevertheless, I bring this up to the
     LNC
     > for
     >      your
     >               feedback.
     >                   If
     >                         you
     >                              request a stop to sending Caryn Ann
     Harlos
     >      or any
     >           other
     >               LNC
     >                         member
     >                              to state conventions for the purpose
     of
     >           recruiting
     >                   dues-paying
     >                              members, we can end the program.
     >                              A reasonable question might be, "I'm
     > willing
     >      to
     >           go to
     >               state
     >                              convention at the expense of the LNC
     and
     >      recruit
     >                   members--why
     >                         don't
     >                              you send me?" The answer is that
     Caryn Ann
     >      proved
     >           her
     >                         willingness
     >                              and capability within her own region.
     No
     >      other
     >           LNC
     >               members
     >                   have
     >                              mailed us several envelopes of
     dues-paying
     >           members from
     >                   their
     >                              states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears
     together
     >      are not
     >           able
     >               to
     >                         attend
     >                              every state convention. If you are
     >      interested in
     >               helping,
     >                   and
     >                              willing to prove your ability first
     at a
     >      state in
     >           your
     >                   region
     >                         or at
     >                              another state at your own expense,
     let me
     >      know
     >           and we
     >               might
     >                   be
     >                         able
     >                                [9]to try that. And then we can
     report
     > the
     >           results.
     >                                Below is a report from Robert Kraus
     with
     >      some
     >           of the
     >                           fundraising
     >                                results from Caryn Ann.
     >                                I welcome your feedback.
     >                           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >                           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >                           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >                             [2][10][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
     >                 [1][3][11][[18]14][23][26]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >
     [2][4][12][15][24][27]facebook.com/libertarians
     >           @LPNational
     >                             Join the Libertarian Party at:
     >
     [3][5][13][16][19][25][28]http://lp.org/membership
     >                                -------- Forwarded Message --------
     >                                Subject: Harlos Fundraising
     >                                   Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47
     -0500
     >                                 From: Robert S. Kraus
     >               [4][20]<[6][14][17][26][29]robert.kraus at lp.org>
     >                                   To: Wes Benedict
     >           [5]<[7][15][[21]18][27][30]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >               >
     >                           I have Harlos pegged as solicitor for a
     total
     >      of
     >           $2,335.00
     >               for
     >                     82
     >                           members 49 of which where new (these 82
     folks
     >      have
     >           also
     >                     contributed
     >                           a
     >                           net total excluding conv related gifts
     of
     >      $6,261.74
     >           since
     >               2016
     >                           convention - bunch of them to Hist
     > Preservation
     >      of
     >           course
     >               so
     >                     she has
     >                           her
     >                           fans)
     >                           In addition she is likely 95%
     responsible for
     >      the
     >           $12,120
     >                     raised for
     >                           Historic Preservation
     >                           Finally she has given $2181 herself
     since the
     >      2016
     >               convention
     >                     (non
     >                           convention related - however $1525 was
     for
     > Hist
     >               Preservation)
     >                           --
     >                           Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
     >                           [[22]6]Operations at LP.org
     >                           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >                           1444 Duke Street
     >                           Alexandria, VA 22314
     >                           Ph: [8]202.333.0008 x 231
     >                           References
     >                                1.
     >      mailto:[9][16][[23]19][28][31]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                                2.
     >           [10][17][20][24][29][32]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                                3.
     >      [11][18][21][25][30][33]http://lp.org/membership
     >                                4.
     >      mailto:[12][19][[26]22][31][34]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                                5.
     >      mailto:[13][20][[27]23][32][35]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                                6. mailto:[[28]14]Operations at LP.org
     >                       References
     >                           1.
     mailto:[21][[29]24][33][36]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                           2. tel:[22][25](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >                           3.
     mailto:[23][[30]26][34][37]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                           4.
     >      [24][27][31][35][38]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                           5.
     [25][28][32][36][39]http://lp.org/membership
     >                           6.
     mailto:[26][[33]29][37][40]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                           7.
     mailto:[27][[34]30][38][41]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                           8. tel:[28]202.333.0008 x 231
     >                           9.
     mailto:[29][[35]31][39][42]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                          10.
     >      [30][32][36][40][43]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                          11.
     [31][33][37][41][44]http://lp.org/membership
     >                          12.
     mailto:[32][[38]34][42][45]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                          13.
     mailto:[33][[39]35][43][46]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                          14. mailto:[[40]34]Operations at LP.org
     >                 References
     >                     1. mailto:[[41]36][44][47]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                     2.
     >      [37][42][45][48]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
     >                     3.
     [38][43][46][49]https://maps.google.com/?q=144
     >
     4+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+22314&entry=gmail&source=g
     >                     4. tel:[39](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >                     5. mailto:[[44]40][47][50]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                     6.
     [41][45][48][51]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                     7. [42][46][49][52]http://lp.org/membership
     >                     8. mailto:[[47]43][50][53]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                     9.
     [44][48][51][54]https://maps.google.com/?q=to+
     >
     > try+that.+And+then+we+can+report+the&entry=gmail&source=g
     >                    10. tel:[45](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >                    11. mailto:[[49]46][52][55]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    12.
     [47][50][53][56]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                    13. [48][51][54][57]http://lp.org/membership
     >                    14. mailto:[[52]49][55][58]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                    15. mailto:[[53]50][56][59]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    16. mailto:[[54]51][57][60]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    17.
     [52][55][58][61]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                    18. [53][56][59][62]http://lp.org/membership
     >                    19. mailto:[[57]54][60][63]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                    20. mailto:[[58]55][61][64]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    21. mailto:[[59]56][62][65]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    22. tel:[57](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >                    23. mailto:[[60]58][63][66]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    24.
     [59][61][64][67]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                    25. [60][62][65][68]http://lp.org/membership
     >                    26. mailto:[[63]61][66][69]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                    27. mailto:[[64]62][67][70]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    28. tel:[63]202.333.0008 x 231
     >                    29. mailto:[[65]64][68][71]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    30.
     [65][66][69][72]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >                    31. [66][67][70][73]http://lp.org/membership
     >                    32. mailto:[[68]67][71][74]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >                    33. mailto:[[69]68][72][75]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >                    34. mailto:[[70]69]Operations at LP.org
     >           References
     >               1. [71]mailto:[73][76]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >               2. [72]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >               3. [73]mailto:[74][77]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >               4. [74][75][78]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >               5. [75][76][79]http://lp.org/membership
     >               6. [76]mailto:[77][80]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >               7.
     [77][78][81]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
     >               8. [78]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >               9. [79]mailto:[79][82]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              10. [80][80][83]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >              11. [81][81][84]http://lp.org/membership
     >              12. [82]mailto:[82][85]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              13. [8[86]3]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >              14. [84]mailto:[83][87]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              15. [85][84][88]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >              16. [86][85][89]http://lp.org/membership
     >              17. [87]mailto:[86][90]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >              18. [88]mailto:[87][91]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              19. [89]mailto:[88][92]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              20. [90][89][93]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >              21. [91][90][94]http://lp.org/membership
     >              22. [92]mailto:[91][95]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >              23. [93]mailto:[92][96]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              24. [94]mailto:[93][97]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              25. [95]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >              26. [96]mailto:[94][98]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              27. [97][95][99]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >              28. [98][96][100]http://lp.org/membership
     >              29. [99]mailto:[97][101]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >              30. [100]mailto:[98][102]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              31. [101]mailto:[99][103]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              32. [102][100][104]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >              33. [103][101][105]http://lp.org/membership
     >              34. [104]mailto:[102][106]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >              35. [105]mailto:[103][107]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              36. [106]mailto:[104]

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