[Lnc-business] Seeking clarification on committee alternates

[Sam Goldstein]

At in person LNC meetings alternates only votes if they are sitting at 
the table in place of the Regional rep.  That can be due to an absence, 
vacancy or because the rep gave up the seat for a period of time.  They 
can be recognized for discussion at the will of the body.  I would 
assume the same applies to other committee meetings.

During an email ballot in many cases the alternate may vote but his/her 
vote is superseded if the representative also votes on the issue.

Sam

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Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2018-03-03 03:49, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Or does this Bylaw override the general principle that alternates only
>    fill vacancies but not absences?
>    == 2016 LP Bylaws and Convention Rules w 2016 JC Rules
>     5. Ranked alternates may be named by the appointing bodies to fill 
> any
>        vacancies or absences in the Convention Committees.==
> 
>    It seems like it does, but I wanted to be clear as an alternate had
>    asked.  So absent that above bylaw, then an alternate would only 
> fill a
>    vacancy not an absence.
>    And an esoteric question - what does "absences" mean here?  Does the
>    word absence mean something different in email voting?  Is that made
>    clear anywhere or is it an implication?  It seems like our email 
> bylaw
>    is not talking about absent persons but absent votes.  But that is 
> not
>    entirely clear.  This is talking about absent persons... or can it 
> also
>    mean absent votes?  Wouldn't that then pretty much then allow the 
> free
>    substitution of committee alternates contrary to the footnote in our
>    Policy Manual that there needs to be an explicit permission for 
> that.
>    But if absent means absent vote in one section, why is not that 
> here?
> 
>    On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>    <[1]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>    At an in-person or electronic (not email voting) meeting, an 
> alternate
>    can only debate with consent of the members and cannot vote.... is 
> that
>    correct?
>    --
>    In Liberty,
>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, 
> Washington)
>    - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>    Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>    We defend your rights
>    And oppose the use of force
>    Taxation is theft
> 
>    --
>    In Liberty,
>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, 
> Washington)
>    - [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>    Communications Director, [5]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>    We defend your rights
>    And oppose the use of force
>    Taxation is theft
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    3. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>    4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    5. http://www.lpcolorado.org/