[Lnc-business] Membership Recruitment
Wes Benedict
wes.benedict at lp.org
Fri Mar 9 15:28:51 EST 2018
Elizabeth, you wrote: "why hasn't this been shared with the rest of the
LNC?"
There are many personalized links. Some below.
https://www.lp.org/renew-sg/
https://www.lp.org/renew-r6/
https://www.lp.org/renew-r8/
https://www.lp.org/renew-r7/
I'm not going to be able to recall all the things I've told other LNC
members over the past 4 years that I have not yet shared with you
personally.
If I wrote notes to the LNC today disclosing everything I've shared with
the LNC before, it would drive everyone crazy.
You can get an overview by reviewing all emails from 2012-2018 here:
http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/
And reading LNC meeting minutes: https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
On 3/9/2018 3:19 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
> Two questions for Daniel and Cayn Ann:
>
> 1) Have you found that people are *more* likely to donate if given a
> link that looks like *you personally* are responsible?
>
> 2) Likewise, are *you* more likely to ask people to donate, if you're
> able to give them a link that has your picture, name, and information?
>
> If the answers are yes, to either 1 & 2, then why hasn't this been
> shared with the rest of the LNC? (If it was share to the LNC prior to
> me joining, then why hasn't anyone updated new members?)
>
> (I wasn't even told when my picture was put into the LP website, it
> just appeared. Whoever did it, took the picture off my FB profile,
> and did so without asking or telling me.)
>
> For this body to function well, it would behoove us to ensure that the
> tools, which some have been given access to, are available, and
> equally important, are *known* by all LNC members. This would include
> who the contacts for getting things done, who to talk to for
> materials, LP website info, etc.
>
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
> On 2018-03-09 15:03, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>> Daniel, I'm just now learning about all sorts of things. Thank you!
>>
>> For instance, I never heard from Wes before that he'd "quite some time
>> ago I decided to provide a small supply of shirts to Caryn Ann to use
>> when promoting memberships."
>> This is also the first time I've seen him offer that same to other LNC
>> members. I certainly never knew about it.
>>
>> As for a personal LP donation page link, this is the first time I knew
>> such a thing existed.
>>
>> This is an example of the lack of transparency that some like to talk
>> about. Why were these things not brought to the attention of all the
>> LNC before this point? Granted, I've only been on this body for about
>> 2.5 months, but you'd think someone would have mentioned these things.
>>
>> I've noted a while back that there seems to be certain things offered
>> to some people, and not others. Why is that? Perhaps the
>> relationships developed. But, if this body is going to all be working
>> to grow the LP, and you said that you want the LP to be successful,
>> then you'd think that EVERYONE on the LNC would have been told about
>> these donation and membership arrangements that aid them. Right?
>>
>> I still can't fathom why someone would want to take personal credit
>> for doing what we all should be doing. Is these a reason why anyone
>> would have a personal donation page link to the LP, and not just send
>> them to the main donation page? (This is a serious question, btw.
>> Have you found that people are *more* likely to donate if given a link
>> that looks like *you personally* are responsible?)
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>>
>> On 2018-03-09 14:43, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>> I think that Wes has said that he will make this available to any LNC
>>> member willing to promote National Membership during state
>>> conventions. That makes this opportunity available to all LNC
>>> members. I think that satisfies the policy manual. Instead of saying
>>> “You can’t do that” maybe “I will do that too!” might be better. LNC
>>> members should be trying to outdo each other with memberships.
>>>
>>> I think every LNC member should have one of these.
>>> www.LP.org/Daniel
>>>
>>> To my knowledge only Caryn Ann and I have these, because we are the
>>> only ones that asked. I use it at times and other times I use the
>>> regular link or the current promo link or the ASC link or various
>>> convention links or the State CRM link. I am interested in this
>>> organization succeeding. Maybe you did or maybe y’all didn’t notice
>>> that Louisiana National Memberships went up by close to 90% last year.
>>> Wonder how that happened....
>>>
>>> I could never have another day on the LNC and I still have more on my
>>> plate to do to help this Party succeed than any 3 people could. If
>>> you are not in something of a similar situation, you ain’t trying.
>>>
>>> Let’s encourage each other to do more, not less.
>>>
>>> Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You too Daniel?
>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:16 PM Daniel Hayes
>>>> <[1]Daniel.Hayes at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How bout some Music. This thread has the end of this song by
>>>> Rush
>>>> running through my head.
>>>> [1][2]https://g.co/kgs/6thRik
>>>> Daniel
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> <[2][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> Caryn Ann, it's not petty to take note of when an individual
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> afforded an advantage to their internal campaign for national
>>>> officer
>>>> position. Nor, to note that the advantage is being given by an
>>>> arrangement with the LPHQ.
>>>> No one is stopping you from recruiting members.
>>>> It's simple. While you're campaigning for an internal officer
>>>> position, you just shouldn't be giving away LP gifts to
>>>> members.
>>>> (I'm still puzzled about why you'd have been tracking the
>>>> recruitment
>>>> numbers, sending envelopes to LPHQ, etc. Why were you even
>>>> doing
>>>> that
>>>> method? To have a tracking system, so Wes could cite your
>>>> numbers? The
>>>> more I hear, the more baffling it becomes.)
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> On 2018-03-09 13:54, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>> Elizabeth because it is. It’s super petty. I am not
>>>> claiming
>>>> it
>>>> wouldn’t be said to someone else. It would be petty there
>>>> too.
>>>> And it
>>>> far pre-dates you or me.
>>>> And recruiting members is all of our jobs. I am not
>>>> supposed
>>>> to
>>>> do my
>>>> job - gotcha.
>>>> I couldn’t make this stuff up.
>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 11:46 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> What's with the personal smears? You wrote: "it isn't
>>>> talking
>>>> about
>>>> petty internal jealousies and power struggles."
>>>> Caryn Ann, I would be writing the exact same thing for
>>>> ANYONE
>>>> that
>>>> is
>>>> doing internal campaigning and while simultaneously
>>>> giving
>>>> away
>>>> free-LP-gifts.
>>>> Are you able to step outside yourself, and look at it
>>>> from
>>>> the
>>>> position
>>>> of how it gives an uneven advantage to your internal
>>>> campaigning?
>>>> Because, it does. Whether you'll acknowledge that
>>>> remains
>>>> to be
>>>> seen.
>>>> ---
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>> On 2018-03-09 13:37, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>> Yes Wes your memory is correct.
>>>>> And people who are personally approached and given
>>>> what
>>>> they
>>>> are
>>>>> entitled to not only saves us shipping but I find
>>>> those
>>>> people
>>>> tend
>>>>> to
>>>>> throw in an extra $25. And some turn into recruiters
>>>> for
>>>> me.
>>>> They
>>>>> go
>>>>> grab their friends and bring them over.
>>>>> I really have a lot better things to do but I am
>>>> spending
>>>> time
>>>> on
>>>>> this
>>>>> because this is precisely one of our problems. The
>>>> Policy
>>>> Manual
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> talking about membership drives. it isn't talking
>>>> about
>>>> petty
>>>>> internal
>>>>> jealousies and power struggles. If so, let's forbid
>>>> any
>>>> sitting
>>>>> member
>>>>> from running because they cannot effectively do their
>>>> job
>>>> out
>>>> of
>>>>> worry
>>>>> that their efforts might get them some credit, and
>>>> that is
>>>> what
>>>>> matters, not you know, growing the Party. I say, hey
>>>> LP.
>>>> Equip me
>>>>> with what you would do anyway to get members passively
>>>> and
>>>> I
>>>> will
>>>>> actively bring you 100 members. If I promise to do it
>>>> with
>>>> a
>>>> bag
>>>>> over
>>>>> my head and a voice modulator so that there is no risk
>>>> that
>>>> anyone
>>>>> would ever be tempted to think well of me, would that
>>>> help?
>>>> Peak
>>>>> Poe's
>>>>> Law Achieved.
>>>>> Or in a more homey fashion. I couldn't think of a
>>>> more apt
>>>> example
>>>>> of
>>>>> LNC micromanagement and cutting our nose off to spite
>>>> our
>>>> face. We
>>>>> have freedom to win out there and instead we play
>>>> internal
>>>>> whack-a-mole
>>>>> with anyone that might be sticking their head up a
>>>> little
>>>> bit
>>>> too
>>>>> high. The only thing that would make it more
>>>> perfectly LP
>>>> is
>>>> to
>>>>> cite
>>>>> footnote 5(a)(c)(d) of RONR. Because that's how we
>>>> roll.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do those promos precisely to sign people up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve got the CO convention in two weeks - what say the
>>>> rest
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>>> LNC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or do I inform that Board ixnay on the member signups.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also OH and NH?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> <[1][2][4][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Two states invited me to speak AND do member drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I now tell them no lest I be the temptress of the
>>>> shirts?
>>>>>
>>>>> This have gone to a ridiculous level. Hobbling
>>>> volunteers
>>>> who
>>>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>> proven track record is not a good look for the Party.
>>>> Can’t
>>>> let
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> do well, lord forbid. Better to have the Party get
>>>> less
>>>> members and
>>>>> have to pay to ship them. Yeah, that’s wise.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. That’s insanely disfunctional.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what we should be encouraging.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead (and this goes back to way before this
>>>> conversation)
>>>> there
>>>>> are
>>>>> petty arguments about who might be noticed. Because
>>>> lord
>>>> forbid
>>>>> someone might be mentioned on FB for getting things
>>>> done.
>>>>>
>>>>> So tell Ohio and NH that the crown has forbidden me to
>>>> bear
>>>> the
>>>>> tshirts
>>>>> of glory?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. It’s petty nonsense. It’s been going on a long
>>>> time
>>>> and
>>>> is an
>>>>> LP
>>>>> cultural issue and it needs to die in a fire. We need
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>>> empowering
>>>>> Party growth wherever and by whoever wants to do it.
>>>> Good
>>>> lord
>>>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>> ludicrous.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:42 AM Wes Benedict
>>>> <[2][3][5][6]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Libertarian Party has been offering T-shirts and
>>>> other
>>>> things
>>>>> as
>>>>> membership promotions for a long time.
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> [3][4][6][7]https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>>>> [4][5][7][8]https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>>>> [5][6][8][9]https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>>> If I remember correctly Caryn Ann started out
>>>> recruiting
>>>> members
>>>>> at
>>>>> state conventions without offering anything in
>>>> return. As
>>>> she
>>>> did
>>>>> that
>>>>> work, members who had seen T-shirt offerings various
>>>> places
>>>> online
>>>>> would
>>>>> start to ask Caryn Ann "can I get a shirt since I
>>>> joined."
>>>>> Our standard response to those who ask has been "yes
>>>> we'll
>>>> give
>>>>> you
>>>>> a
>>>>> shirt. What size do you wear?" and we ship them a
>>>> shirt
>>>> (polos
>>>>> excluded
>>>>> because they are higher cost").
>>>>> As a result of Caryn Ann recruiting so many members
>>>> and
>>>> members
>>>>> asking
>>>>> for shirts, quite some time ago I decided to provide
>>>> a
>>>> small
>>>>> supply
>>>>> of
>>>>> shirts to Caryn Ann to use when promoting
>>>> memberships.
>>>>> If any other LNC members want to help recruit
>>>> memberships,
>>>> let me
>>>>> know,
>>>>> and I'll send you a small supply of these two
>>>> shirts:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [6][7][9][10]https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>>>>
>>>> [7][8][10][11]https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>>> These shirts are to be used for membership
>>>> recruitment
>>>> purposes.
>>>>> Any
>>>>> you
>>>>> don't use should be returned to me in the future.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>> [8]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>> [9](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>>>> [10][9][11][12]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>> [11][10][12][13]facebook.com/libertarians
>>>> @LPNational
>>>>> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>>>> [12][11][13][14]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> On 3/9/2018 8:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>> There is no service. Conversely in fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (and btw though not applicable it is an
>>>> either/or
>>>> in
>>>> that
>>>>> statement)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:55 AM Elizabeth Van
>>>> Horn
>>>>>> <[1][13][12][14][15]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Caryn Ann, you're running for a national
>>>> officer
>>>> position.
>>>>> From the
>>>>>> LNC
>>>>>> Policy Manual page 46:
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> "6) Limitations on Party Support for Party
>>>> Office
>>>>>> Party resources shall not be used to provide
>>>> information
>>>>> or
>>>>> services
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> any candidate for party
>>>>>> office unless:
>>>>>> • such information or services are available
>>>> and
>>>> announced
>>>>> on an
>>>>>> equal
>>>>>> basis to all
>>>>>> Libertarians who have declared they are
>>>> seeking
>>>> that
>>>>> office,
>>>>> or
>>>>>> • such information or services are generally
>>>> available and
>>>>> announced
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> all party
>>>>>> members."
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> The above language isn't "either/or", which
>>>> would
>>>> indicate
>>>>> only one
>>>>>> condition applies. Both conditions apply.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>> On 2018-03-09 01:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>> I say let’s get everyone who wants to
>>>> recruiting.
>>>> I
>>>>> don’t
>>>>> see a
>>>>>> line
>>>>>>> forming after the last offer by Wes.
>>>>>>> And we are insanely territorial. And I
>>>> will
>>>> continue
>>>>> to
>>>>> point
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>> I don’t appreciate its existence.
>>>>>>> I almost as a joke was going to ask if
>>>> I
>>>> needed
>>>>> permission to
>>>>>> wear
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> Party issued name badge. Then I
>>>> stopped and
>>>> realized
>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>> senseless politicking has reached Peak
>>>> Poe’s
>>>> Law
>>>> and
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> indistinguishable from a parody of
>>>> itself
>>>> and it
>>>>> could
>>>>> go
>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>> I will be. Lodge objections now.
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> Van
>>>> Horn
>>>>>>>
>>>> <[1][2][14][13][15][16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann, people can go to the
>>>> website
>>>> and
>>>> sign-up
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> membership.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have no idea what you mean by "the
>>>> standard
>>>>> membership pitch"
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> standard supplies. Nor, do I
>>>> appreciate
>>>> you
>>>> using
>>>>> terms
>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>> "insanely
>>>>>>> territorial and self-destructive",
>>>> when
>>>> I'm
>>>> saying
>>>>> to
>>>>> you the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> things I'd say to anyone who is
>>>> running a
>>>> campaign
>>>>> for a
>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> LP
>>>>>>> officer position. We currently have
>>>> three
>>>> people
>>>>> running for
>>>>>>> chair,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> six or seven running for Vice-Chair,
>>>> and
>>>> two
>>>> that I
>>>>> know of
>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> running (maybe declared) for
>>>> secretary.
>>>> Gosh,
>>>> at
>>>>> this rate,
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> may jump into the fray. Are all
>>>> these
>>>> people
>>>> going
>>>>> to be
>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> materials? Some are making trips to
>>>> a lot
>>>> of
>>>> state
>>>>>> conventions.
>>>>>>> Are those people going to be given
>>>> the
>>>> exact
>>>> same
>>>>> supplies as
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> the supplies are T-shirts and gifts,
>>>> then
>>>> do
>>>> they
>>>>> all
>>>>> get
>>>>>> those to
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> to people while they campaign? What
>>>> if
>>>> they're
>>>>> signing-up
>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> members? As it's easier to influence
>>>> people
>>>> when
>>>>> they're
>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>> You yourself wrote: "People sign up
>>>> twice as
>>>> much
>>>>> when they
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> something in their hands on the
>>>> spot."
>>>> That
>>>> goes
>>>>> for
>>>>>> campaigning
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> I'm still not understanding why you
>>>> send
>>>> envelopes
>>>>> to
>>>>> LPHQ
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> signing
>>>>>>> up members. I've never heard of
>>>> anyone
>>>> doing
>>>> that.
>>>>> People I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> sign-up someone, and that's that.
>>>> We're
>>>> not
>>>>> keeping
>>>>> track or
>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>> the numbers, as it's not a
>>>> competition.
>>>>>>> Turning the tide on membership isn't
>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>>> happen
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> blitz-sign-ups
>>>>>>> at conventions. Daily I'm seeing
>>>> people
>>>> announce
>>>>> that
>>>>> they're
>>>>>>> leaving
>>>>>>> the LP. Some even shared with me
>>>> information
>>>> on
>>>>> new
>>>>>> political
>>>>>>> party
>>>>>>> they're attempting to start. (Former
>>>> LP
>>>> members who
>>>>> all just
>>>>>> left
>>>>>>> the LP
>>>>>>> this past year) The issue is a
>>>> systemic
>>>> one.
>>>> When I
>>>>> mention
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> issue,
>>>>>>> I get the usual reaction from the
>>>> usual
>>>> people.
>>>>> So,
>>>>> I expect
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> different this time.
>>>>>>> If you wish to take up this issue at
>>>> the
>>>> April
>>>> LNC
>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>> then I
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>> forward to the discussion.
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of
>>>> Madison Co,
>>>> Indiana
>>>>>>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review
>>>> Committee
>>>>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist
>>>> Caucus
>>>>>>>
>>>> [2][3][15][14][16][17]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>> On 2018-03-09 00:19, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Members are entitled to a free
>>>> shirt.
>>>>>>>> All of us should be doing this
>>>> and
>>>> that
>>>>> opportunity is
>>>>>>> equally
>>>>>>>> available to all.
>>>>>>>> To say that successful
>>>> recruiters who
>>>> happen
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>>> running
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> the standard membership pitch to
>>>> me
>>>> is
>>>> where
>>>>> we
>>>>> get
>>>>>> insanely
>>>>>>>> territorial and
>>>> self-destructive.
>>>>>>>> People sign up twice as much
>>>> when
>>>> they
>>>> get
>>>>> something in
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> hands
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the spot.
>>>>>>>> I will get 100 more members. If
>>>> I
>>>> have
>>>> to be
>>>>> hobbled by
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> having the standard supplies,
>>>> well -
>>>> we
>>>> aren’t
>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>> signing
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> members because we are too
>>>> concerned
>>>> over
>>>> our
>>>>>> internicence
>>>>>>>> calculations. And if that’s the
>>>> case
>>>> -
>>>> I’m
>>>>> not
>>>>> setting
>>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> failure. If I’m going to
>>>> recruit,
>>>> I’m
>>>> going
>>>>> to
>>>>> kick
>>>>>> ass. If
>>>>>>> I’m
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> equipped for success then I’m
>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>> put my
>>>>> energy
>>>>>>> elsewhere
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> deliver to Wes in April the
>>>> remainder
>>>> and
>>>> will
>>>>> not get
>>>>>> the 20
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>> CO
>>>>>>>> convention which is my goal.
>>>>>>>> I would like the rest of the LNC
>>>> to
>>>> weigh
>>>> in.
>>>>>>>> If not please consider this my
>>>> request
>>>> for
>>>>> agenda time
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> April
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> settle this.
>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:54 PM
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> Van
>>>>> Horn
>>>>>>>>
>>>> <[1][3][4][16][15][17][18]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann, I think it's great
>>>> that
>>>> you
>>>> do
>>>>> membership
>>>>>>> recruiting.
>>>>>>>> My concern would be if you're
>>>> personal
>>>>> campaigning and
>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> membership supplies that are
>>>> gifts/freebie
>>>>> things to
>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> prospective
>>>>>>>> recruits. (You'd mentioned
>>>> T-shirts,
>>>> in a
>>>>> past
>>>>>>> communication
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> subject.) I'm not sure what
>>>> membership
>>>>> supplies
>>>>>> you'd
>>>>>>> need,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> signing
>>>>>>>> up members can just be done
>>>> with a
>>>> laptop on
>>>>> the spot.
>>>>>> No
>>>>>>> need for
>>>>>>>> supplies. So, if you're not
>>>> giving
>>>> people
>>>>> gifts or
>>>>>> freebie
>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> signing-up/campaigning, then I
>>>> see
>>>> no
>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>>>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of
>>>> Madison
>>>> Co,
>>>>> Indiana
>>>>>>>> Chair-LP Social Media Process
>>>> Review
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian
>>>> Pragmatist
>>>> Caucus
>>>>>>>>
>>>> [2][4][5][17][16][18][19]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>> On 2018-03-08 23:34, Caryn Ann
>>>> Harlos
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Beginning April I will be at
>>>> a
>>>> convention
>>>>> nearly
>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> weekend,
>>>>>>>> some of
>>>>>>>>> them I am an invited
>>>> guest
>>>> speaker
>>>> and
>>>>> other are
>>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>>>> trips.
>>>>>>>>> Is there any objection to
>>>> my
>>>> continuing
>>>>> my
>>>>>> membership
>>>>>>>> recruitment
>>>>>>>>> during these trips (no
>>>> cost to
>>>> the
>>>>> Party
>>>>> other
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> membership
>>>>>>>>> supplies).
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative,
>>>> Libertarian
>>>>> National
>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado,
>>>> Hawaii,
>>>> Kansas,
>>>>> Montana, Utah,
>>>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>>> - [1]Caryn.Ann.
>>>> [19]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director,
>>>> [2]Libertarian
>>>>> Party of
>>>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical
>>>> Preservation
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement
>>>> of
>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of
>>>> force
>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>> mailto:[3][20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>> [4][5][6][18][17][21][20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative,
>>>> Libertarian
>>>> National
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
>>>> Kansas,
>>>> Montana,
>>>>> Utah,
>>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>> - [5]Caryn.Ann.
>>>> [22]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> Communications Director,
>>>> [6]Libertarian
>>>> Party
>>>>> of
>>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical
>>>> Preservation
>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>> mailto:[6][7][19][18][23][21]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>> [7][8][20][19][24][22]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>> mailto:[8][25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 4.
>>>> [9][9][21][20][26][23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>> mailto:[10][27]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 6.
>>>> [11][10][22][21][28][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian
>>>> National
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>>>> Montana,
>>>> Utah,
>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>> - [12]Caryn.Ann. [29]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> Communications Director,
>>>> [13]Libertarian
>>>> Party
>>>> of
>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>> Committee
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.
>>>> mailto:[11][23][22][30][25]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>> 2.
>>>> [12][24][23][31][26]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>> 3.
>>>> mailto:[13][25][24][32][27]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>> 4.
>>>> [14][26][25][33][28]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>> 5.
>>>> [15][27][26][34][29]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>> 6.
>>>> mailto:[16][28][27][35][30]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>> 7.
>>>> [17][29][28][36][31]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>> 8.
>>>> mailto:[18][37]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> 9.
>>>> [19][30][29][38][32]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>> 10.
>>>> mailto:[20][39]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> 11.
>>>> [21][31][30][40][33]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>> 12.
>>>> mailto:[22][41]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> 13.
>>>> [23][32][31][42][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>> Committee
>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
>>>> Utah,
>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>> - [24]Caryn.Ann. [43]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director, [25]Libertarian Party
>>>> of
>>>> Colorado
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>
>>>>>> References
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.
>>>> mailto:[33][32][44][35]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 2.
>>>> mailto:[34][33][45][36]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 3. [35][34][46][37]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> 4.
>>>> mailto:[36][35][47][38]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 5. [37][36][48][39]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> 6. [38][37][49][40]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 7.
>>>> mailto:[39][38][50][41]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 8. [40][39][51][42]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> 9. [41][40][52][43]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 10. [42][41][53][44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 11.
>>>> mailto:[43][42][54][45]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 12. [44][43][55][46]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> 13.
>>>> mailto:[45][44][56][47]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 14. [46][45][57][48]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> 15. [47][46][58][49]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 16.
>>>> mailto:[48][47][59][50]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>> 17. [49][48][60][51]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>> 18. mailto:[50][61]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> 19. [51][49][62][52]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 20. mailto:[52][63]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> 21. [53][50][64][53]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 22. mailto:[54][65]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> 23. [55][51][66][54]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>> 24. mailto:[56][67]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> 25. [57][52][68][55]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>> Committee
>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>> - [58]Caryn.Ann. [69]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, [59]Libertarian Party of
>>>> Colorado
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>> Committee
>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>> - [60]Caryn.Ann. [70]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, [61]Libertarian Party of
>>>> Colorado
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>> Committee
>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>> - [62]Caryn.Ann. [71]Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, [63]Libertarian Party of
>>>> Colorado
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> References
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. mailto:[53][72][56]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[54][73][57]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>> 3. [55][74][58]https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>>>> 4. [56][75][59]https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>>>> 5. [57][76][60]https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>>> 6.
>>>>
>>>> [58][77][61]https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>>>> 7.
>>>> [59][78][62]https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>>> 8.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [60][79][63]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA
>>>> +22314&e
>>>> ntry=gmail&source=g
>>>>> 9. tel:(202) 333-0008
>>>>> 10. mailto:[61][80][64]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>> 11. [62][81][65]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>> 12. [63][82][66]http://lp.org/membership
>>>>> 13. mailto:[64][83][67]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 14. mailto:[65][84][68]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 15. [66][85][69]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 16. mailto:[67][86][70]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 17. [68][87][71]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 18. [69][88][72]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 19. mailto:[70][89][73]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 20. [71][90][74]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 21. [72][91][75]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 22. [73][92][76]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 23. mailto:[74][93][77]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 24. [75][94][78]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 25. mailto:[76][95][79]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 26. [77][96][80]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 27. [78][97][81]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 28. mailto:[79][98][82]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 29. [80][99][83]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 30. [81][100][84]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 31. [82][101][85]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 32. [83][102][86]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 33. mailto:[84][103][87]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 34. mailto:[85][104][88]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 35. [86][105][89]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 36. mailto:[87][106][90]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 37. [88][107][91]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 38. [89][108][92]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 39. mailto:[90][109][93]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 40. [91][110][94]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 41. [92][111][95]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 42. [93][112][96]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 43. mailto:[94][113][97]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 44. [95][114][98]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 45. mailto:[96][115][99]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 46. [97][116][100]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 47. [98][117][101]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 48. mailto:[99][118][102]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>> 49. [100][119][103]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> 50. mailto:[101][120]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 51. [102][121][104]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 52. mailto:[103][122]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 53. [104][123][105]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 54. mailto:[105][124]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 55. [106][125]
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> In Liberty,
>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>> Washington)
>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, [107]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> We defend your rights
>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> Visible links
>>>> 1. mailto:Daniel.Hayes at lp.org
>>>> 2. https://g.co/kgs/6thRik
>>>> 3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 5. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>> 6. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>> 7. https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>>> 8. https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>>> 9. https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>> 10. https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>>> 11. https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>> 12. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>> 13. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>> 14. http://lp.org/membership
>>>> 15. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 17. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 18. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 19. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 21. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 22. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 24. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 25. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 26. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 27. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 28. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 29. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 30. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 31. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 32. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 33. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 35. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 36. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 37. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 38. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 39. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 40. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 41. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 42. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 43. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 45. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 46. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 47. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 48. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 49. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 50. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 51. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 52. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 53. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 54. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 55. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 56. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>> 57. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>> 58. https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>>> 59. https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>>> 60. https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>> 61. https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>>> 62. https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>> 63. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
>>>> 64. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>> 65. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>>> 66. http://lp.org/membership
>>>> 67. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 68. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 69. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 70. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 71. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 72. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 73. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 74. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 75. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 76. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 77. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 78. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 79. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 80. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 81. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 82. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 83. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 84. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 85. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 86. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 87. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 88. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 89. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 90. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 91. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 92. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 93. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 94. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 95. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 96. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 97. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 98. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 99. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 100. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 101. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 102. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 103. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 104. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 105. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 106. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> 107. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>
>>>> Hidden links:
>>>> 109. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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