[Lnc-business] Publishing links to candidate articles with some platform deviations
Daniel Hayes
daniel.hayes at lp.org
Wed Mar 28 02:17:20 EDT 2018
Caryn Ann,
The dunk tank project has been in the works for a while but the hotel keeps kind of ignoring me. Part of the issue is where to put it. I don’t think the tank can get to the floor the pool is on because there is no freight elevator that makes it there and it doesn’t fit in a regular one.
Besides that renting Champion Square is pricey. I keep trying because it seems popular.
I think Arvin agreed to do it so I heard.
As I am going to be ULTRA busy. Getting in the tank will require pre-sale of the balls at a premium price. Once in the tank I will talk serious smack.
The problem is just getting the space worked out. I’m too overloaded to focus on it and giving the task to another COC Member isn’t so effective cause they can’t really scout it.
Maybe outside the bank entrance. I need to go down there tomorrow so I will try and check it out.
Daniel
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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I'm for fundraising by having a dunk tank with Daniel Hayes. We would
> raise a ton.
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Hayes <[1]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> I’m for deleting the whole platform and rolling the omissions plank
> into the end of the SOP. But that’s a little out of the power of the
> LNC.
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:55 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> This is how we have done it successfully. And the disclaimer
> can be
>> done very politely and professionally that will not embarrass
> the
>> candidate. I would hope that candidates would make that
> disclaimer
>> themselves. Just as an activist I always clearly say when I
> deviate
>> from an LP position or when it is unsettled (most notable
> example being
>> abortion).
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Joshua Katz
>> <[1][3]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I'm clearly outnumbered, and it's
> situation-dependent, but
>> as a
>> general matter, I think I'd rather not do it than use a
>> disclaimer (but
>> I favor running things without the disclaimer, and if we
> can't do
>> that,
>> then just not running it - and, given our current system,
> I'm
>> happy
>> leaving that decision to the APRC and staff). There are
> probably
>> circumstances where I'm fine with the disclaimer, and
>> circumstances
>> where I'm less fine.
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:08 PM,
> <[1][2][4]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>> I am comfortable with this
>> On 2018-03-27 18:55, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>> I favor this method. As it allows for highlighting a
> candidate,
>> while
>> simultaneously alerting readers that the LP platform
> differs
>> somewhat.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> [2][3][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> On 2018-03-27 15:14, Whitney Bilyeu wrote:
>> What if we just ask staff to include in the blog post a
>> disclaimer
>> of
>> sorts with any such link....acknowledging that there
> may be
>> specific
>> opinions held by the candidate that are not 100% our
> own...?
>> Whitney
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Wes Benedict
>> <[1][3][4][6]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>
>>
>> wrote:
>> Dear LNC:
>> I'm bringing this to your attention now, because it has
> not
>> been an
>> issue for several months, but likely will come up again
> soon
>> given
>> that we have lots of candidates and will be writing lots
> of
>> blog
>> entries about candidates this year.
>> Staff works to publish articles that comply with the LNC
>> Bylaws
>> and
>> Policy Manual. The Advertising Publications and Review
>> Committee is
>> tasked with ensuring publications comply.
>> I'd like to point out that I think Staff and the APRC
> have
>> had
>> a
>> pretty good working relationship for at least 3 years and
>> perhaps
>> even longer than that if I think about it. So, this is
> not
>> meant as
>> a complaint in general about the APRC, Staff, or the
> overall
>> procedures. Most things are fine in that area, in my
> opinion.
>> I
>> just
>> want to focus on one issue.
>> Nevertheless, it should come as no surprise that various
>> members of
>> the APRC and various staff don't always agree with each
> other
>> on
>> what constitutes a violation.
>> A particular area of uncertainty has been articles with
>> coverage of
>> candidates where the articles include some positions that
>> violate
>> platform.
>> I'll use public schools as a hypothetical, and the
> article
>> below
>> from the imaginary "Alexandria Beach Times."
>> ====start article====
>> [Sentence 1] John Doe, Libertarian candidate for
> Congress,
>> says
>> he
>> wants to cut taxes, cut spending, end the war on drugs,
> and
>> bring
>> our troops home from overseas.
>> [Sentence 2] When asked about public education, John Doe
> says
>> "I'd
>> like to use some of the savings from those cuts to
> increase
>> spending
>> on public schools."
>> ====end article====
>> I think most of the APRC and Staff would feel it's okay
> to
>> write a
>> blog and to quote Sentence 1 of the article above. Most
> of
>> the
>> APRC
>> and Staff would probably feel it's NOT okay to quote
> Sentence
>> 2.
>> The area of likely disagreement is whether or not we
> could
>> include a
>> link to the source article in our blog entry.
>> If there was an article where 50% or more of the content
>> about
>> the
>> Libertarian candidate had platform violations, probably
> most
>> of
>> us
>> wouldn't want to publicize it.
>> There can be a great article about one of our candidates
>> where
>> 90%
>> of the coverage is positive, but if 10% of the article
>> includes
>> a
>> platform violation, we maybe should not link to it, or
> maybe
>> we
>> should.
>> I used public school spending as an example above, but
> all
>> kinds of
>> things have come up in the past, such as opposing
>> legalization
>> of
>> hard drugs (or letting the states decide on that), the
> Fair
>> Tax,
>> welfare, some regulations, and so on.
>> I would like direction from the LNC on whether or not it
> is
>> okay to
>> publish things like blogs that links with some positions
> that
>> might
>> violate the platform.
>> Based on feedback, I might float a suggest amendment to
> the
>> Policy
>> Manual for you all to consider at the upcoming LNC
> meeting.
>>
>> I can work comfortabl[4]y with whichever direction the
> LNC
>> might go on
>> this particular issue, but I think it's an important
>> enough
>> issue
>> that has come up quite a bit in the past, that it
> should
>> be
>> considered by the LNC.
>> If the LNC prefers to leave the decision up to the
> APRC,
>> that
>> is
>> another option I'm comfortable with. In fact, I think
>> that's
>> the
>> status quo right now, however, given recent changes in
> the
>> APRC, I
>> could not tell you how they'd rule on the above issue.
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> [2]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>
>> [3][5][5][7](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>> [4][6][6][8]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> [5][7][7][9]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>> [6][8][8][10]http://lp.org/membership
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[9][9][11]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 2.
>> [10][10][12]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St.,+
> Alexandria,+
>> VA+223
>> 14&entry=gmail&source=g
>> 3. tel:[11][11][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 4. mailto:[12][12][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 5. [13][13][15]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 6. [14][14][16]http://lp.org/membership
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[15][17]erin.adams at lp.org
>> 2. [16][18]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> 3. mailto:[17][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 4. [18][20]https://maps.google.com/?
> q=y+with+whichever+direction+the+
>> LNC+&entry=gmail&source=g
>> 5. tel:[19][21](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 6. mailto:[20][22]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 7. [21][23]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 8. [22][24]http://lp.org/membership
>> 9. mailto:[23][25]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 10. [24][26]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
>> 11. tel:[25][27](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 12. mailto:[26][28]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 13. [27][29]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 14. [28][30]http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington)
>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, [30]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:[31]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> 2. mailto:[32]erin.adams at lp.org
>> 3. [33]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> 4. mailto:[34]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 5. tel:[35](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 6. mailto:[36]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 7. [37]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 8. [38]http://lp.org/membership
>> 9. mailto:[39]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 10. [40]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
>> 11. tel:[41](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 12. mailto:[42]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 13. [43]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 14. [44]http://lp.org/membership
>> 15. mailto:[45]erin.adams at lp.org
>> 16. [46]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> 17. mailto:[47]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 18. [48]https://maps.google.com/?q=y+
> with+whichever+direction+the+LNC+&entry=gmail&source=g
>> 19. tel:[49](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 20. mailto:[50]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 21. [51]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 22. [52]http://lp.org/membership
>> 23. mailto:[53]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 24. [54]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
>> 25. tel:[55](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>> 26. mailto:[56]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> 27. [57]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> 28. [58]http://lp.org/membership
>> 29. mailto:[59]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 30. [60]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
> - [61]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, [62]Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:daniel.hayes at lp.org
> 2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 3. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
> 5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 6. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 7. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 8. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 9. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 10. http://lp.org/membership
> 11. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 12. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
> 13. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 14. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 15. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 16. http://lp.org/membership
> 17. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
> 18. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 19. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 20. https://maps.google.com/?q=y+with+whichever+direction+the+
> 21. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 22. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 23. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 24. http://lp.org/membership
> 25. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 26. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
> 27. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 28. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 29. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 30. http://lp.org/membership
> 31. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
> 32. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
> 33. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 34. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 35. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 36. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 37. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 38. http://lp.org/membership
> 39. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 40. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
> 41. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 42. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 43. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 44. http://lp.org/membership
> 45. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
> 46. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 47. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 48. https://maps.google.com/?q=y+with+whichever+direction+the+LNC+&entry=gmail&source=g
> 49. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 50. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 51. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 52. http://lp.org/membership
> 53. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 54. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
> 55. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> 56. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
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> 58. http://lp.org/membership
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> 62. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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