[Lnc-business] Publishing links to candidate articles with some platform deviations
Alex Merced (Region 8 Alt)
alex.merced at lp.org
Wed Mar 28 08:53:12 EDT 2018
I’ll totally volunteer to be dunked in a dunk tank. :)
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 28, 2018, at 2:35 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
> To be fair, will you have to open this up to all candidates for the
> LNC?
>
> If there’s not enough dunking tanks, (or they’re prohibited) can y’all
> line up against a wall outside by the pool and sell water balloons to
> be thrown?
>
> Upon request, i can bring balloons to Denver for a trial run to see if
> they hurt y’all too much.
>
> But, I can’t see myself having the courage to actually throw one at
> y’all. You’ll have to test on each other.
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> [1]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> [2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [3]wes.benedict at lp.org
> [4]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: [5]http://lp.org/membership
> On Mar 28, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hayes <[6]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Caryn Ann,
> The dunk tank project has been in the works for a while but the hotel
> keeps kind of ignoring me. Part of the issue is where to put it. I
> don’t think the tank can get to the floor the pool is on because there
> is no freight elevator that makes it there and it doesn’t fit in a
> regular one.
> Besides that renting Champion Square is pricey. I keep trying because
> it seems popular.
> I think Arvin agreed to do it so I heard.
> As I am going to be ULTRA busy. Getting in the tank will require
> pre-sale of the balls at a premium price. Once in the tank I will talk
> serious smack.
> The problem is just getting the space worked out. I’m too overloaded
> to focus on it and giving the task to another COC Member isn’t so
> effective cause they can’t really scout it.
> Maybe outside the bank entrance. I need to go down there tomorrow so I
> will try and check it out.
> Daniel
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I'm for fundraising by having a dunk tank with Daniel Hayes. We
> would
>
> raise a ton.
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Hayes
> <[1][8]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> I’m for deleting the whole platform and rolling the omissions
> plank
>
> into the end of the SOP. But that’s a little out of the power of
> the
>
> LNC.
>
> Daniel Hayes
>
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:55 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> <[2][9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> This is how we have done it successfully. And the disclaimer
>
> can be
>
> done very politely and professionally that will not embarrass
>
> the
>
> candidate. I would hope that candidates would make that
>
> disclaimer
>
> themselves. Just as an activist I always clearly say when I
>
> deviate
>
> from an LP position or when it is unsettled (most notable
>
> example being
>
> abortion).
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Joshua Katz
>
> <[1][3][10]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I'm clearly outnumbered, and it's
>
> situation-dependent, but
>
> as a
>
> general matter, I think I'd rather not do it than use a
>
> disclaimer (but
>
> I favor running things without the disclaimer, and if we
>
> can't do
>
> that,
>
> then just not running it - and, given our current system,
>
> I'm
>
> happy
>
> leaving that decision to the APRC and staff). There are
>
> probably
>
> circumstances where I'm fine with the disclaimer, and
>
> circumstances
>
> where I'm less fine.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:08 PM,
>
> <[1][2][4][11]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I am comfortable with this
>
> On 2018-03-27 18:55, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>
> I favor this method. As it allows for highlighting a
>
> candidate,
>
> while
>
> simultaneously alerting readers that the LP platform
>
> differs
>
> somewhat.
>
> ---
>
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>
> [2][3][5][12]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
> On 2018-03-27 15:14, Whitney Bilyeu wrote:
>
> What if we just ask staff to include in the blog post a
>
> disclaimer
>
> of
>
> sorts with any such link....acknowledging that there
>
> may be
>
> specific
>
> opinions held by the candidate that are not 100% our
>
> own...?
>
> Whitney
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Wes Benedict
>
> <[1][3][4][6][13]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> Dear LNC:
>
> I'm bringing this to your attention now, because it has
>
> not
>
> been an
>
> issue for several months, but likely will come up again
>
> soon
>
> given
>
> that we have lots of candidates and will be writing lots
>
> of
>
> blog
>
> entries about candidates this year.
>
> Staff works to publish articles that comply with the LNC
>
> Bylaws
>
> and
>
> Policy Manual. The Advertising Publications and Review
>
> Committee is
>
> tasked with ensuring publications comply.
>
> I'd like to point out that I think Staff and the APRC
>
> have
>
> had
>
> a
>
> pretty good working relationship for at least 3 years and
>
> perhaps
>
> even longer than that if I think about it. So, this is
>
> not
>
> meant as
>
> a complaint in general about the APRC, Staff, or the
>
> overall
>
> procedures. Most things are fine in that area, in my
>
> opinion.
>
> I
>
> just
>
> want to focus on one issue.
>
> Nevertheless, it should come as no surprise that various
>
> members of
>
> the APRC and various staff don't always agree with each
>
> other
>
> on
>
> what constitutes a violation.
>
> A particular area of uncertainty has been articles with
>
> coverage of
>
> candidates where the articles include some positions that
>
> violate
>
> platform.
>
> I'll use public schools as a hypothetical, and the
>
> article
>
> below
>
> from the imaginary "Alexandria Beach Times."
>
> ====start article====
>
> [Sentence 1] John Doe, Libertarian candidate for
>
> Congress,
>
> says
>
> he
>
> wants to cut taxes, cut spending, end the war on drugs,
>
> and
>
> bring
>
> our troops home from overseas.
>
> [Sentence 2] When asked about public education, John Doe
>
> says
>
> "I'd
>
> like to use some of the savings from those cuts to
>
> increase
>
> spending
>
> on public schools."
>
> ====end article====
>
> I think most of the APRC and Staff would feel it's okay
>
> to
>
> write a
>
> blog and to quote Sentence 1 of the article above. Most
>
> of
>
> the
>
> APRC
>
> and Staff would probably feel it's NOT okay to quote
>
> Sentence
>
> 2.
>
> The area of likely disagreement is whether or not we
>
> could
>
> include a
>
> link to the source article in our blog entry.
>
> If there was an article where 50% or more of the content
>
> about
>
> the
>
> Libertarian candidate had platform violations, probably
>
> most
>
> of
>
> us
>
> wouldn't want to publicize it.
>
> There can be a great article about one of our candidates
>
> where
>
> 90%
>
> of the coverage is positive, but if 10% of the article
>
> includes
>
> a
>
> platform violation, we maybe should not link to it, or
>
> maybe
>
> we
>
> should.
>
> I used public school spending as an example above, but
>
> all
>
> kinds of
>
> things have come up in the past, such as opposing
>
> legalization
>
> of
>
> hard drugs (or letting the states decide on that), the
>
> Fair
>
> Tax,
>
> welfare, some regulations, and so on.
>
> I would like direction from the LNC on whether or not it
>
> is
>
> okay to
>
> publish things like blogs that links with some positions
>
> that
>
> might
>
> violate the platform.
>
> Based on feedback, I might float a suggest amendment to
>
> the
>
> Policy
>
> Manual for you all to consider at the upcoming LNC
>
> meeting.
>
> I can work comfortabl[4]y with whichever direction the
>
> LNC
>
> might go on
>
> this particular issue, but I think it's an important
>
> enough
>
> issue
>
> that has come up quite a bit in the past, that it
>
> should
>
> be
>
> considered by the LNC.
>
> If the LNC prefers to leave the decision up to the
>
> APRC,
>
> that
>
> is
>
> another option I'm comfortable with. In fact, I think
>
> that's
>
> the
>
> status quo right now, however, given recent changes in
>
> the
>
> APRC, I
>
> could not tell you how they'd rule on the above issue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>
> [2]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>
> [3][5][5][7](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>
> [4][6][6][8][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> [5][7][7][9][15]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>
> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>
> [6][8][8][10][16]http://lp.org/membership
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[9][9][11][17]wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> 2.
>
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>
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>
> VA+223
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> --
>
> --
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>
> Washington)
>
> - [29]Caryn.Ann. [37]Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, [30]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> We defend your rights
>
> And oppose the use of force
>
> Taxation is theft
>
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>
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>
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> --
>
> --
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington)
>
> - [61]Caryn.Ann. [68]Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, [62]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> We defend your rights
>
> And oppose the use of force
>
> Taxation is theft
>
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>
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> 98. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 99. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 100. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 101. http://lp.org/membership
> 102. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 103. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
> 104. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 105. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 106. http://lp.org/membership
> 107. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
> 108. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 109. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 110. https://maps.google.com/?q=y+with+whichever+direction+the+LNC+&entry=gmail&source=g
> 111. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 112. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 113. http://lp.org/membership
> 114. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 115. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
> 116. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 117. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 118. http://lp.org/membership
> 119. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 120. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 121. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 122. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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