[Lnc-business] FW: Please Vote NO on suspension of the Vice-Chairman

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Mon Apr 2 17:09:43 EDT 2018


>From a previous objector on the LPCO Board:


Richard Tietjen Longstreth
<https://www.facebook.com/tietjen002?fref=gc&dti=252474608447206> Up until
now, I've argued that what Arvin has said has lacked tact. That his
messaging was the problem, not the message behind the poor messaging. Arvin
has crossed a line at this juncture. He has advocated violence, whether in
jest or otherwise. This is a clear violation of the principle of the NAP.

As a previous Arvin defender, I apologize. His lack of tact was certainly a
problem in the past but his lack of care to improve his tact time and time
again is a clear indication to me that he is unfit to continue to be a
leader of the Libertarian Party
<https://www.facebook.com/libertarians/?fref=gc&dti=252474608447206&hc_location=ufi>
.

I support any decision to remove him from office and hope that the
delegates in New Orleans do not make a mistake in re-electing him. At this
point, I am undecided as to whom I will be supporting for the role of Vice
Chair of the Libertarian Party.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> From another
>
> ==
> Utah LP executive committee asks you to resign
>
> Regional
> x
> Joseph Buchman
> Mar 30 (2 days ago)
> to Arvin, Barry, secretary, Treasurer, Libertarian, me
> Unanimously.
>
> We have also asked our region rep to reinitiate the process for your
> removal from the LNC asap.
>
> Regretfully,
>
> Joe===
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is one ====I don’t want to waste any more time on this than is
>> necessary, but I want to let you know that I am 100% in favor of Arvin
>> being removed immediately.====
>>
>> from a Region 1 Chair
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> And the vast majority of Region 1, including the state that was an
>>> adamant no last time are now an adamant yes.
>>>
>>> Rather than a million threads, if we could copy and paste any emails
>>> here rather than in separate threads, it would be appreciated it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:42 PM, <david.demarest at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Forwarding to [1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org business list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>
>>>>    Region 6 Representative
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    From: Matt C <mattcholko at hotmail.com>
>>>>    Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 3:28 PM
>>>>    To: Chair at lp.org
>>>>    Cc: vicechair at lp.org; treasurer at lp.org; secretary at lp.org;
>>>>    william.redpath at lp.org; sam.goldstein at lp.org; starchild at lp.org;
>>>>    daniel.hayes at lp.org; joshua.katz at lp.org; caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org;
>>>>    steven.nielson at lp.org; ed.marsh at lp.org; steven.nekhaila at lp.org;
>>>>    elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org; dustin.nanna at lp.org; jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
>>>> ;
>>>>    james.lark at lp.org; David.Demarest at lp.org; sean.otoole at lp.org;
>>>>    whitney.bilyeu at lp.org; erin.adams at lp.org; patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>>>>    Subject: Please Vote NO on suspension of the Vice-Chairman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Friend,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    You may notice that this note sounds a whole lot like the one I sent
>>>> a
>>>>    couple months ago.  That's because we're dealing with the same issue
>>>>    again - some members of the LNC are attempting to Vice-Chairman
>>>> because
>>>>    they disagree with his statements, either in principle or style.
>>>> Once
>>>>    again, I must ask that you vote against this motion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I, along with a majority of the delegates assembled in
>>>>    convention, supported Arvin Vohra when he ran for this VC position,
>>>>    with full knowledge of who he is.  He is doing what we elected him to
>>>>    do.  Therefore, I believe that this attempt to remove him from his
>>>>    position amounts to an attempt to overturn the will of the delegates.
>>>>    I do not think that is an appropriate use of the LNC's authority.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    In addition, if a motion to censure or otherwise discipline him is
>>>> put
>>>>    in front of you, I'd ask that you not cosponsor, and vote against it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Thank you for your time and consideration, and for all that you do on
>>>>    behalf of the Libertarian Party.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Matt Cholko
>>>>
>>>>    LP Member since 2008
>>>>
>>>>    Member, National Platform Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    6873 Lafayette Park Drive
>>>>
>>>>    Annandale, VA 22003
>>>>
>>>>    703-343-0047
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>



-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   From a previous objector on the LPCO Board:
   [1]
   Richard Tietjen Longstreth Up until now, I've argued that what Arvin
   has said has lacked tact. That his messaging was the problem, not the
   message behind the poor messaging. Arvin has crossed a line at this
   juncture. He has advocated violence, whether in jest or otherwise.
   This is a clear violation of the principle of the NAP.
   As a previous Arvin defender, I apologize. His lack of tact was
   certainly a problem in the past but his lack of care to improve his
   tact time and time again is a clear indication to me that he is unfit
   to continue to be a leader of the [2]Libertarian Party.
   I support any decision to remove him from office and hope that the
   delegates in New Orleans do not make a mistake in re-electing him. At
   this point, I am undecided as to whom I will be supporting for the role
   of Vice Chair of the Libertarian Party.

   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   From another
   ==

Utah LP executive committee asks you to resign

   Regional
   x
   [AIbEiAIAAABECJ6657_Jv4G-0wEiC3ZjYXJkX3Bob3RvKig5NjA5MTA4YWY2NjFkODhiND
   U4MDU4YjA2NWM0MmE1ZDcwOGE2YWE0MAF4xqFb_CHO9c9FHeUzIujkcprqBw?sz=24]

Joseph Buchman

   Mar 30 (2 days ago)
   to Arvin, Barry, secretary, Treasurer, Libertarian, me
   Unanimously.
   We have also asked our region rep to reinitiate the process for your
   removal from the LNC asap.
   Regretfully,
   Joe===

   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   Here is one ====I don’t want to waste any more time on this than is
   necessary, but I want to let you know that I am 100% in favor of Arvin
   being removed immediately.====
   from a Region 1 Chair

   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   And the vast majority of Region 1, including the state that was an
   adamant no last time are now an adamant yes.
   Rather than a million threads, if we could copy and paste any emails
   here rather than in separate threads, it would be appreciated it.

   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:42 PM, <[6]david.demarest at lp.org> wrote:

        Forwarding to [1][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org business list.
        ~David Pratt Demarest
        Region 6 Representative
        From: Matt C <[8]mattcholko at hotmail.com>
        Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 3:28 PM
        To: [9]Chair at lp.org
        Cc: [10]vicechair at lp.org; [11]treasurer at lp.org;
     [12]secretary at lp.org;
        [13]william.redpath at lp.org; [14]sam.goldstein at lp.org;
     [15]starchild at lp.org;
        [16]daniel.hayes at lp.org; [17]joshua.katz at lp.org;
     [18]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org;
        [19]steven.nielson at lp.org; [20]ed.marsh at lp.org;
     [21]steven.nekhaila at lp.org;
        [22]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org; [23]dustin.nanna at lp.org;
     [24]jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org;
        [25]james.lark at lp.org; [26]David.Demarest at lp.org;
     [27]sean.otoole at lp.org;
        [28]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org; [29]erin.adams at lp.org;
     [30]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
        Subject: Please Vote NO on suspension of the Vice-Chairman

      Friend,
      You may notice that this note sounds a whole lot like the one I sent
   a
      couple months ago.  That's because we're dealing with the same issue
      again - some members of the LNC are attempting to Vice-Chairman
   because
      they disagree with his statements, either in principle or style.
   Once
      again, I must ask that you vote against this motion.
      I, along with a majority of the delegates assembled in
      convention, supported Arvin Vohra when he ran for this VC position,
      with full knowledge of who he is.  He is doing what we elected him
   to
      do.  Therefore, I believe that this attempt to remove him from his
      position amounts to an attempt to overturn the will of the
   delegates.
      I do not think that is an appropriate use of the LNC's authority.
      In addition, if a motion to censure or otherwise discipline him is
   put
      in front of you, I'd ask that you not cosponsor, and vote against
   it.
      Thank you for your time and consideration, and for all that you do
   on
      behalf of the Libertarian Party.
      Sincerely,
      Matt Cholko
      LP Member since 2008
      Member, National Platform Committee
      6873 Lafayette Park Drive
      Annandale, VA 22003
      [31]703-343-0047

     References
        1. mailto:[32]lnc-business at hq.lp.org

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [33]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [34]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [35]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [36]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [37]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [38]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [39]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [40]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. https://www.facebook.com/tietjen002?fref=gc&dti=252474608447206
   2. https://www.facebook.com/libertarians/?fref=gc&dti=252474608447206&hc_location=ufi
   3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   5. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   6. mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
   7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   8. mailto:mattcholko at hotmail.com
   9. mailto:Chair at lp.org
  10. mailto:vicechair at lp.org
  11. mailto:treasurer at lp.org
  12. mailto:secretary at lp.org
  13. mailto:william.redpath at lp.org
  14. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
  15. mailto:starchild at lp.org
  16. mailto:daniel.hayes at lp.org
  17. mailto:joshua.katz at lp.org
  18. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
  19. mailto:steven.nielson at lp.org
  20. mailto:ed.marsh at lp.org
  21. mailto:steven.nekhaila at lp.org
  22. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  23. mailto:dustin.nanna at lp.org
  24. mailto:jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org
  25. mailto:james.lark at lp.org
  26. mailto:David.Demarest at lp.org
  27. mailto:sean.otoole at lp.org
  28. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
  29. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
  30. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
  31. tel:703-343-0047
  32. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  33. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  35. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  36. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  37. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  38. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  39. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  40. http://www.lpcolorado.org/


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