[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin Vohra

Wed Apr 4 13:32:21 EDT 2018

Arvin, 

You expressed a dishonest apology. “I’m Sorry, but….” Is a rationalization, not an apology. You deflected the issue at hand and launched into accusations of your own that everyone who was upset with your “joke” wasn’t Libertarian enough to have an opinion.

You said “I don’t support actually shooting up a school board” but then went on a rant justifying why someone should be ok with such a course of action. As I explained when I cast my vote, it wasn’t simply your comment that led me to vote in favor of the motion at hand, but rather your response to it, and lack of a sincere apology. 

You have displayed a persistent inability to accept accountability for the wrong in what you’ve said, and refuse to acknowledge the gravity of your position and how personal posts make in public environments reflect on the organization simply due to the position you are in. Face the facts Arvin, as Vice Chair of this organization, you ARE a public figure, and everything you say, whether personal or political reflects upon this organization, and that is something that needs to be inherently understood by everyone aiming to serve in any capacity of leadership. 

In the past I have consistently defended the morality and principles behind your statements, even if you lacked the tact to express those opinions in an amicable manner yourself. However, your narcissistic and audacious purism is dangerous and hindering the growth of this party, and any actual advancement towards Liberty in our Lifetimes. How you say things is often much more important than what you say. It is perfectly possible to express radical opinions and beliefs in a manner that encourages independent thought rather than backlash. If your intent is to grow this party, and advance this movement, then I suggest you sincerely take a reprieve to learn a thing or two about marketing and communication, and how to reach people outside your own echo chamber. 

Justin O’Donnell
LNC Region 8 (ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, NY, NJ)

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Arvin Vohra
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:10 PM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin Vohra

Since some were not able to see the facebook live video, I uploaded the
video to youtube. This is the original video, unaltered.

Given that we have at least one LNC member saying that I never apologized,
I would like to correct the record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Steve Scheetz <steve.scheetz at lp.org> wrote:

> I was informed that what I said could be misinterpreted as not voting.
>
> I vote yes.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Steve Scheetz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> Alicia Mattson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:16 AM
> To: Libertarian National Committee list
> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin Vohra
>
> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>
>
> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 12, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
> Pacific time.*
> *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Van Horn, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein, Redpath, Hewitt,
> O'Donnell
>
> *Motion:*
>
> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force as its
> cardinal principle and requires each of its members certify that they
> neither advocate or believe in violent means to achieve political or social
> goals.
>
> RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin Vohra
> from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated unacceptable
> conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into disrepute,
> including making and defending a statement advocating lethal violence
> against state employees who are not directly threatening imminent physical
> harm. Such action is in violation of our membership pledge. These actions
> further endanger the survival of our movement and the security of all of
> our members without their consent.
>
> -Alicia
>
>

-- 
Arvin Vohra

www.VoteVohra.com
VoteVohra at gmail.com
(301) 320-3634

-------------- next part --------------
   Arvin,

   You expressed a dishonest apology. “I’m Sorry, but….” Is a
   rationalization, not an apology. You deflected the issue at hand and
   launched into accusations of your own that everyone who was upset with
   your “joke” wasn’t Libertarian enough to have an opinion.

   You said “I don’t support actually shooting up a school board” but then
   went on a rant justifying why someone should be ok with such a course
   of action. As I explained when I cast my vote, it wasn’t simply your
   comment that led me to vote in favor of the motion at hand, but rather
   your response to it, and lack of a sincere apology.

   You have displayed a persistent inability to accept accountability for
   the wrong in what you’ve said, and refuse to acknowledge the gravity of
   your position and how personal posts make in public environments
   reflect on the organization simply due to the position you are in. Face
   the facts Arvin, as Vice Chair of this organization, you ARE a public
   figure, and everything you say, whether personal or political reflects
   upon this organization, and that is something that needs to be
   inherently understood by everyone aiming to serve in any capacity of
   leadership.

   In the past I have consistently defended the morality and principles
   behind your statements, even if you lacked the tact to express those
   opinions in an amicable manner yourself. However, your narcissistic and
   audacious purism is dangerous and hindering the growth of this party,
   and any actual advancement towards Liberty in our Lifetimes. How you
   say things is often much more important than what you say. It is
   perfectly possible to express radical opinions and beliefs in a manner
   that encourages independent thought rather than backlash. If your
   intent is to grow this party, and advance this movement, then I suggest
   you sincerely take a reprieve to learn a thing or two about marketing
   and communication, and how to reach people outside your own echo
   chamber.

   Justin O’Donnell

   LNC Region 8 (ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, NY, NJ)

   Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10

   From: [2]Arvin Vohra
   Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:10 PM
   To: [3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin
   Vohra

   Since some were not able to see the facebook live video, I uploaded the

   video to youtube. This is the original video, unaltered.

   Given that we have at least one LNC member saying that I never
   apologized,

   I would like to correct the record:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be

   On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Steve Scheetz <steve.scheetz at lp.org>
   wrote:

   > I was informed that what I said could be misinterpreted as not
   voting.

   >

   > I vote yes.

   >

   > Sincerely,

   >

   >

   > Steve Scheetz

   >

   > -----Original Message-----

   > From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf
   Of

   > Alicia Mattson

   > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:16 AM

   > To: Libertarian National Committee list

   > Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin
   Vohra

   >

   > We have an electronic mail ballot.

   >

   >

   > *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 12, 2018 at
   11:59:59pm

   > Pacific time.*

   > *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Van Horn, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein, Redpath,
   Hewitt,

   > O'Donnell

   >

   > *Motion:*

   >

   > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force as
   its

   > cardinal principle and requires each of its members certify that they

   > neither advocate or believe in violent means to achieve political or
   social

   > goals.

   >

   > RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin
   Vohra

   > from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated
   unacceptable

   > conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into
   disrepute,

   > including making and defending a statement advocating lethal violence

   > against state employees who are not directly threatening imminent
   physical

   > harm. Such action is in violation of our membership pledge. These
   actions

   > further endanger the survival of our movement and the security of all
   of

   > our members without their consent.

   >

   > -Alicia

   >

   >

   --

   Arvin Vohra

   www.VoteVohra.com

   VoteVohra at gmail.com

   (301) 320-3634

References

   1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
   2. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org