[Lnc-business] Fwd: Ohio petition too slow. Help! Get paid $2.50 each!

erin.adams at lp.org erin.adams at lp.org
Tue Apr 10 16:42:34 EDT 2018


I am not Okay with paying LNC members to do the work of LNC members. 
This is our JOB! I am fine with reimbursing expenses if travel were 
involved, but this? Not even a little bit.

In Liberty,
Erin Adams
Region 7 Alternate




On 2018-04-10 14:44, Wes Benedict wrote:
> Dear LNC: I have a question related to LN Alternate Dustin Nanna of 
> Ohio.
> 
> I have received very little response to my call for petitioners to
> help in Ohio. I have a couple more emails to follow up on, but have to
> put the chances of those follow-ups leading to hires of around 5%
> each.
> 
> Hiring complete strangers from afar can be quite tough. Managing and
> training new people from afar is also quite tough.
> 
> Therefore, I'd like to focus more on hiring LPO members.
> 
> And, in particular, I'd like to contract with Dustin Nanna to collect
> some signatures, with the same deal I'm offering to others.
> 
> Dustin Nanna is an LNC Alternate and an LPO officer. Because of that,
> I want to see if there is opposition to hiring him before I sign a
> contract with him. Dustin has a day job so this would be very
> part-time.
> 
> The advantage of getting Dustin to petition is that he already knows
> the Ohio rules. And maybe . . . . must maybe . . . . if I get Dustin
> on a contract and he delivers a few dozen signature, then I can tell
> other LPO members as I try to hire them.
> 
> In general, I prefer not to hire LNC members. But, at this point, I'd
> like to hire Dustin in Ohio. For that matter, I'd be happy to hire any
> LNC member willing, or any candidate for LNC, subject to the terms
> below, etc.
> 
> If my memory is correct (I've not researched notes in detail), I
> believe in the past form LNC member Diana Visek of Illinois was paid
> to collect signatures in Illinois, and former LNC member Paul Frankel
> was paid for signature collection in places while on the LNC.
> 
> Is there opposition to hiring Dustin to collect some signatures in
> Ohio (with the hope that inspires some other folks)?
> 
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
> 
> On 4/5/2018 4:33 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>> I forgot the LNC-business email group doesn't allow embedded 
>> formatting. So, I'm attaching the note as a PDF and the graph 
>> separately as an attachment as well.  Thanks again, --Wes
>> 
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>> 
>> On 4/5/2018 4:29 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>     Dear LNC, plus a few state leaders:
>>>     Just fyi, the email below went to Ohio contacts today. It's also 
>>> posted
>>>     on the blog here:
>>>     [1]https://www.lp.org/ohio-petition-slow-help-get-paid-2-50/
>>>     It's too soon for Widespread Panic, but brace yourselves for 
>>> possible
>>>     similar messages in the near future related to Tennessee, 
>>> Illinois, New
>>>     York, and Virginia. The state-wide Alabama drive was cancelled 
>>> over a
>>>     month ago due to lack of matching resources by the state party, 
>>> and
>>>     that's even with Paul Frankel offering $25,000 and Michael 
>>> Chastain
>>>     offering another $20,000 to help what would have been the LP 
>>> Alabama
>>>     portion of the drive. The LPA was unable to raise the additional
>>>     $15,000, which can be a tall order for a relatively small state.
>>>     Kudos again to LP Arkansas for finishing its petition drive in 
>>> 2017
>>>     early and under budget.
>>>     Mega kudos to [2]Bill Gelineau, candidate for Governor in 
>>> Michigan, for
>>>     getting his 21,187 signature petition drive done with no help 
>>> from the
>>>     national LP.
>>>     --Wes
>>> 
>>>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>      Subject: Ohio petition too slow. Help! Get paid $2.50 each!
>>>         Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 15:00:41 -0400
>>>         From: Wes Benedict [3]<wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>>     Reply-To: [4]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>           To: [5]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Ohio petition too slow. Help!
>>>     Get paid $2.50 each!
>>> 
>>>     I'll pay you $2.50 per signature for each signature you collect 
>>> for the
>>>     LP Ohio petition drive, subject to the terms below.
>>> 
>>>     I need your help! See the graph below. We have to speed up right 
>>> away!
>>> 
>>>     We had hoped to finish this petition drive in December 2017, but 
>>> it
>>>     just keeps dragging on and on. We need to finish this statewide
>>>     petition drive so that candidates can finally get started on 
>>> their own
>>>     petition drives — and then start campaigning!
>>> 
>>>     We started the ballot access petition drive in Ohio in January 
>>> 2017.
>>>     Fifteen months later, we’ve collected about 85,000 signatures, 
>>> but need
>>>     more than 100,000 to be safe. The national LP expects to spend 
>>> $140,000
>>>     total. The Ohio LP is spending more than $50,000 as well.
>>> 
>>>     The graph below represents the portion of the petition drive paid 
>>> for
>>>     by the national Libertarian Party (LP Ohio has additional 
>>> signatures).
>>>     [6]LNC Paid Portion of LP Ohio Petition Drive - April 2018
>>> 
>>>     A lot of our paid petitioners have been lured away to other 
>>> states,
>>>     mostly for petition drives that aren't related to the Libertarian
>>>     Party.
>>> 
>>>     I can't find enough people to hire. That's why I want to hire 
>>> you.
>>> 
>>>     I'll hire almost anyone, from candidates for governor to 
>>> candidates for
>>>     city council, to board members of LP Ohio, to members of LP Ohio, 
>>> to
>>>     people interested in helping Libertarians whether living inside 
>>> or
>>>     outside Ohio, to non-registered voters, subject to the terms 
>>> below
>>>     (terms subject to change without notice).
>>> 
>>>     You must sign the contract I'll provide to you, which will 
>>> constitute
>>>     the entire agreement, and get that contract countersigned by me 
>>> before
>>>     starting and being eligible to collect signatures for pay. 
>>> Additional
>>>     terms likely to be in the contract:
>>>      1. You must collect at least 100 signatures per week.
>>>      2. You will get paid $2.50 per signature collected, subject to 
>>> pay
>>>         reductions for validity lower than 75 percent.
>>>      3. No expenses will be covered; for example, you will not be
>>>         reimbursed for any lodging, travel, miles on your car, meals, 
>>> gas,
>>>         petition forms, supplies, etc. That's why we are specifically
>>>         trying to hire Ohio residents.
>>>      4. You'll have to mail the signatures to me by FedEx, UPS, or 
>>> USPS
>>>         Priority Mail, at your own expense, on a weekly basis. 
>>> Overnight
>>>         shipping isn't necessary. You can use the cheapest option 
>>> that
>>>         includes tracking.
>>> 
>>>     [7]Click here to find out more of the background on the LPO 
>>> petition
>>>     drive, plus some of the rules and forms.
>>> 
>>>     Many LP Ohio members pledged to volunteer for the petition drive, 
>>> and
>>>     we still need lots of people to help as volunteers.
>>> 
>>>     [8]Send me a note if you want to volunteer.
>>> 
>>>     What I really really really want, though, is two or three hard 
>>> workers
>>>     to pay. Adding two or three hard workers who will work hard on 
>>> this and
>>>     get 500 signatures per week ($1,250 per week) would be ideal and 
>>> would
>>>     get the job done.
>>> 
>>>     [9]Send a note to me at wes.benedict at lp.org to get started, or 
>>> call
>>>     (202) 333-0008 x232 (and leave a message).
>>> 
>>>     [10]Click here to donate for ballot access.
>>> 
>>>     I need your help today!
>>> 
>>>     Sincerely,
>>> 
>>>     Wes Benedict
>>> 
>>>     Wes Benedict
>>>     Executive Director
>>>     Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>     (202) 333-0008 x232
>>>     [11]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> 
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>>> References
>>> 
>>>     Visible links
>>>     1. https://www.lp.org/ohio-petition-slow-help-get-paid-2-50/
>>>     2. https://liberty4gov.org/
>>>     3. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>     4. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>     5. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
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>>> http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=59142716&msgid=616925&act=41BX&c=1115108&destination=https://www.lp.org/ohio-petition-slow-help-get-paid-2-50/
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>>>     8. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>     9. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>    10. 
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