[Lnc-business] Complaint from state affiliate

[erin.adams at lp.org]

porcfest is a private event. As such they have the right to ask whomever 
they want to participate or not. Im not clear why the affiliate could 
not reach out directly if they wanted to participate nor why anyone 
would think that it is nationals job to do so for them . Porcfest is 
well advertised, it isnt a secret event.




On 2018-05-05 11:53, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> I agree with Chair Spangler.  LPCO would be pretty salty if that
>    happened to us.
> 
>    On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 11:53 AM Daniel Hayes via Lnc-business
>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>      For people that seem to snub their nose at the concept of National
>      borders, Libertarians sure are petty in their defense of their own
>      territories arbitrarily delineated by man.
>      The PorcFest planners sent us requests for MONTHS.  They wanted to
>      have a table at our NatCon.  There is NO authoritarian policy that
>      exists that says the National Staff must kiss the ring of a state
>      affiliate in order to do business with a private entity pursuing a
>      relationship with the NATIONAL PARTY in a particular territory
>      arbitrarily defined by men.
>      Daniel Hayes
>      LNC at Large Member
>      Sent from my iPhone
>      > On May 5, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Daniel Hayes via Lnc-business
>      <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>      >
>      > Ya know what makes people look like amateurs? Petty little 
> emails
>      like this.
>      >
>      > Daniel Hayes
>      >
>      >
>      > Sent from my iPhone
>      >
>      >> On May 5, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
>      <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>  All,
>      >>  I've copied and pasted below, a request from one of my state
>      chairs,
>      >>  asking why the state party received no notice of an event 
> being
>      planned
>      >>  in their state by national, and no invitation to help out or 
> to
>      >>  participate.
>      >>  Do we not have such a policy to involve the state affiliates 
> in
>      our
>      >>  outreach events?
>      >>  Justin O'Donnell
>      >>  LNC Region 8 Representative
>      >>  Hi Justin,
>      >>  I have a request for my LNC regional representative.
>      >>  The other day, LPUS sent out a tweet about how they are 
> planning
>      to
>      >>  attend PorcFest this
>      >>  year:
>      [1][4]https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/991687794702606336
>      >>  Now as far as I know, there was no notification about this to
>      the
>      >>  leadership of the state party prior to the announcement. It's
>      possible
>      >>  something got lost because of the transition of leadership, or
>      >>  something was sent a long time ago, but as far as I know, no
>      >>  notification was sent from LPUS to LPNH regarding their plans 
> at
>      >>  PorcFest.
>      >>  I'm trying to remember whether or not Rachel mentioned 
> anything
>      to me a
>      >>  while ago - it's possible but I don't remember such a
>      notification.
>      >>  Regardless of whether or not that happened, I don't think it's 
> a
>      lot to
>      >>  ask that the state party leadership receive notice from LPUS
>      when they
>      >>  are planning to attend a notable event in our state.
>      Coordination
>      >>  between the national and the state party is a useful thing,
>      especially
>      >>  so that efforts are not duplicated and we can make the most of
>      our
>      >>  outreach efforts.
>      >>  Can you please investigate as to whether or not any notice was
>      sent
>      >>  out, and if not, why it was not. I'd also like to know if 
> there
>      is any
>      >>  policy that exists that requires LPUS to inform the state 
> party
>      of
>      >>  notable events taking place. It's not unreasonable to expect
>      that state
>      >>  parties will participate in fairs and festivals, and if the 
> LPUS
>      is
>      >>  also planning to participate in one it should absolutely be
>      talking to
>      >>  the state party so that both can make the most of the effort.
>      >>  It makes us look like amateurs when we're caught off guard not
>      knowing
>      >>  that something like this will be happening. Please 
> investigate;
>      thank
>      >>  you for your help.
>      >>  - Chip Spangler
>      >>  Chair, Libertarian Party of New Hampshire
>      >>
>      >> References
>      >>
>      >>  1. [5]https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/991687794702606336
>      >
> 
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> 
>    --
>    In Liberty,
>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, 
> Washington)
>    - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>    Communications Director, [7]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
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> References
> 
>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    4. https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/991687794702606336
>    5. https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/991687794702606336
>    6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    7. http://www.lpcolorado.org/