[Lnc-business] Proposed motion for candidate funding

Tue Jun 5 18:10:39 EDT 2018

	 My reading is that the issue was not "localization of education" (a step in the right direction in my book too), but rather the phrase "The federal government should allow each state to allocate all of the money that will be spent on education".

	I saw that language, but did not include it in my list of concerns because I assume that by "all of the money that will be spent on education", Princeton is talking about funds which government is already spending, and that he is not advocating that ALL education spending (including money spent by individuals, families, etc.) go through government (or that spending authority be transferred from local school boards to state governments), but merely that FEDERAL government spending on education should devolve to the state level. I suspect Arvin may have been misled by the clumsy wording of the passage.

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On Jun 5, 2018, at 2:45 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

>   Exactly Justin.  We keep confusing the end game with the steps and we
>   are not a party that denies transitional steps.  Nothing on Mr.
>   Princeton's page denies the end game.
> 
>   On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
>   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>        If the localization of education isn't the LP view, then someone
>     should
>        tell whoever is in vharge of maintaining
>        [2]www.lp.org/candidate-pledges/2016-federal-candidate-pledges/
>        Either that, or We should stop letting the good be the enemy of
>     the
>        perfect, amd going out of our way tonfind something wrong with
>     people
>        who disagree with our pet issues ever so slightly on the road to
>        advancing Liberty...
>        Justin O'Donnell
>        LNC Region 8 Representative
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>   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
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>   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   2. http://www.lp.org/candidate-pledges/2016-federal-candidate-pledges/
>   3. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   4. http://www.lpcolorado.org/

On Jun 5, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Arvin Vohra wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Lloyd is a great communicator, and certainly could be a great candidate. However, his site currently has direct violations of the LP position, and the divergence is not yet clarified. I imagine that a discussion with his campaign could probably clear that up. Here's one that I consider problematic:
> 
> " The federal government should allow each state to allocate all of the money that will be spent on education, enabling the states to identify and grow the most effective educational institutions, whatever they may be."
> 
> This certainly isn't the LP view.
> 
> -Arvin
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Starchild via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>         I checked out both candidates' websites. 
> 
>         Craig Bowden's is commendable for identifying the candidate upfront as a Libertarian (although I could find no links to the state or national LP) and setting forth strongly libertarian positions on a number of issues. Some of the issue statements could be improved with additional detail (e.g. the "Privacy and Security" topic focuses mostly on the "USA Patriot Act" and doesn't mention NSA surveillance or the 4th Amendment) and editing, but I didn't notice anything of concern from a libertarian standpoint.
> 
>         Lloyd Princeton's site addresses only three areas of public policy – crime, education, and employment, and the wording is not as unambiguously libertarian. Most of the content on these topics looks good from a libertarian standpoint, but a few points of concern:
> 
> • The site lists as his "1st Principle" that, "When people need support, government should provide assistance, not dependency" 
> • On employment: "Provide one-time grants to launch apprenticeship programs at public institutions for training and employment." 
> • On crime: "Data systems that allow law enforcement agencies to communicate more effectively with district attorneys must be improved..." 
> • While advocating for less prosecution of victimless crimes, he states that "...mandatory sentences for violent crimes may need to be increased." 
> 
>         Also, other than at the end of a blog post not readily visible on the site in which he announces his candidacy, I could find no mention of his being a Libertarian or links to LP or other libertarian websites.
> 
> Love & Liberty,
> 
>                                      ((( starchild )))
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> 
> 
> On Jun 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, david.demarest--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> 
> > I will co-sponsor.
> > 
> > David Pratt Demarest
> > LNC Region 6 Representative
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 8:31 PM
> > To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > Cc: Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> > Subject: [Lnc-business] Proposed motion for candidate funding
> > 
> > Based on a favorable vote during a Candidate Support Committee meeting on June 3, 2018, the CSC and I are seeking one additional co-sponsor for the following
> > motion:
> > 
> > "The LNC will provide $500 each to the campaigns of Craig Bowden (U.S. 
> > Senate UT) and Lloyd Princeton (U.S. House of Representatives NM) from the Candidate Support budget line."
> > 
> > Each candidate has submitted a complete Candidate Support application with support documents.  The CSC has reviewed the materials submitted and found them to satisfy the criteria passed by the LNC at the recent Denver meeting.  As the applications are not marked confidential, I will
> > 
> > provide them to LNC members upon request.
> > 
> > Both candidates in this motion requested $5000 from the LNC for various projects crucial to their campaigns.  With current budget constraints the CSC felt that the $500 we approved was the best we could do at this time to encourage others to emulate the effort and professionalism of Mr. Bowden's and Mr. Princeton's campaigns.
> > 
> > The LNC members of the Candidate Support Committee each sponsor this
> > motion:
> > 
> > Sam Goldstein
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Tim Hagan 
> > 
> > https://bowden4senate.com/ 
> > 
> > http://lastnomore.us/en/
> > 
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> > Sam Goldstein
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