[Lnc-business] Judicial committee

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I will vote no if this comes up.  There is always a next convention.  We
screwed this up last convention.  Let the delegates decide.

And I will vote hell no to the last further resolved.  The LNC needs to
stay away from caucuses.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:32 PM, joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I've been thinking about this since the night of the At-Large/JC election
> and I do share Ms. Harlos's frustration. I had perhaps 100 delegates who
> were going to support me already leave by the time we got to the At-Large
> election. Complaining about how long balloting and tabulation took is
> already the #1 feedback topic I'm getting from Party members.
>
> That said, I agree with Ms. Van Horn that the Convention did perhaps the
> least worst option under the circumstances. I worry that anything we do
> that departs from that, be it putting our own people on or keeping the dead
> hand of the last JC or sending a mail ballot to all Party members or some
> rump thereof, is even more disconnected from the rules we should be
> following and destined to be viewed as illegitimate and post-hoc.
>
> I would like to fix it for next time, as I know many of you do. Taking Mr.
> Goldstein's suggestion, I took a stab at tackling three birds with one
> stone:
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Convention on July 3, 2018 voted that
> the top vote-getters in the At-Large race fill all available At-Large seats
> on the LNC; and
>
> WHEREAS, Rule 9 directs that the election of Judicial Committee members be
> conducted as the same manner as specified for at-large members of the
> National Committee; and
>
> WHEREAS, LNC action pursuant to Bylaws Article 7, Section 7 would clear
> all potential doubts as to who the new LNC members are;
>
> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Joshua Smith, Bill Redpath, and Alicia
> Mattson are added to the LNC as At-Large members for a two-year term; and
>
> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the LNC acknowledges the election of D. Frank
> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff Neale, Jim
> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle to the Judicial Committee for a four-year term;
> and
>
> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a special committee be established to present
> a consensus recommendation to the LNC by September 1, 2019 for improving
> the election scheduling, balloting, and tabulation process of LNC
> elections, with said committee to consist of:
> (1) the Party Vice-Chair, who will act as chairperson
> (2) the Party Secretary
> (3) a designee of the Bylaws & Rules Committee
> (4) four Party members appointed by the Party Chair, from among the
> various caucuses in the Party.
>
>
> JBH
>
>
>
> On 2018-07-05 18:04, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>
>> Since we apparently closed the convention without a procedure for
>>    populating the JC, is anyone in the mood for a motion to appoint the
>>    top seven vote winners as the JC for this term?  I suppose we can be
>>    anarchists and live without a JC this term or solicit applications from
>>    people who were not nominated at convention.
>>
>>    I don't have the top seven names handy, we would have to verify they
>>    have been members for four years.
>>
>>    --
>>    Sam Goldstein
>>    Libertarian National Committee
>>    317-850-0726 Cell
>>
>
>


-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   I will vote no if this comes up.  There is always a next convention.
   We screwed this up last convention.  Let the delegates decide.
   And I will vote hell no to the last further resolved.  The LNC needs to
   stay away from caucuses.

   On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:32 PM, joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     I've been thinking about this since the night of the At-Large/JC
     election and I do share Ms. Harlos's frustration. I had perhaps 100
     delegates who were going to support me already leave by the time we
     got to the At-Large election. Complaining about how long balloting
     and tabulation took is already the #1 feedback topic I'm getting
     from Party members.
     That said, I agree with Ms. Van Horn that the Convention did perhaps
     the least worst option under the circumstances. I worry that
     anything we do that departs from that, be it putting our own people
     on or keeping the dead hand of the last JC or sending a mail ballot
     to all Party members or some rump thereof, is even more disconnected
     from the rules we should be following and destined to be viewed as
     illegitimate and post-hoc.
     I would like to fix it for next time, as I know many of you do.
     Taking Mr. Goldstein's suggestion, I took a stab at tackling three
     birds with one stone:
     WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Convention on July 3, 2018 voted
     that the top vote-getters in the At-Large race fill all available
     At-Large seats on the LNC; and
     WHEREAS, Rule 9 directs that the election of Judicial Committee
     members be conducted as the same manner as specified for at-large
     members of the National Committee; and
     WHEREAS, LNC action pursuant to Bylaws Article 7, Section 7 would
     clear all potential doubts as to who the new LNC members are;
     THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Joshua Smith, Bill Redpath, and
     Alicia Mattson are added to the LNC as At-Large members for a
     two-year term; and
     BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the LNC acknowledges the election of D.
     Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff
     Neale, Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle to the Judicial Committee for
     a four-year term; and
     BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a special committee be established to
     present a consensus recommendation to the LNC by September 1, 2019
     for improving the election scheduling, balloting, and tabulation
     process of LNC elections, with said committee to consist of:
     (1) the Party Vice-Chair, who will act as chairperson
     (2) the Party Secretary
     (3) a designee of the Bylaws & Rules Committee
     (4) four Party members appointed by the Party Chair, from among the
     various caucuses in the Party.
     JBH

   On 2018-07-05 18:04, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:

     Since we apparently closed the convention without a procedure for
        populating the JC, is anyone in the mood for a motion to appoint
     the
        top seven vote winners as the JC for this term?  I suppose we can
     be
        anarchists and live without a JC this term or solicit
     applications from
        people who were not nominated at convention.
        I don't have the top seven names handy, we would have to verify
     they
        have been members for four years.
        --
        Sam Goldstein
        Libertarian National Committee
        317-850-0726 Cell

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   3. http://www.lpcolorado.org/