[Lnc-business] Judicial committee

john.phillips at lp.org john.phillips at lp.org
Thu Jul 5 19:56:54 EDT 2018


Why start a new committee? Shouldn't this fall under the purview of IT?
John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 6:32 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Judicial committee
I've been thinking about this since the night of the At-Large/JC 
election and I do share Ms. Harlos's frustration. I had perhaps 100 
delegates who were going to support me already leave by the time we got 
to the At-Large election. Complaining about how long balloting and 
tabulation took is already the #1 feedback topic I'm getting from Party 
members.

That said, I agree with Ms. Van Horn that the Convention did perhaps the 
least worst option under the circumstances. I worry that anything we do 
that departs from that, be it putting our own people on or keeping the 
dead hand of the last JC or sending a mail ballot to all Party members 
or some rump thereof, is even more disconnected from the rules we should 
be following and destined to be viewed as illegitimate and post-hoc.

I would like to fix it for next time, as I know many of you do. Taking 
Mr. Goldstein's suggestion, I took a stab at tackling three birds with 
one stone:


WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Convention on July 3, 2018 voted that 
the top vote-getters in the At-Large race fill all available At-Large 
seats on the LNC; and

WHEREAS, Rule 9 directs that the election of Judicial Committee members 
be conducted as the same manner as specified for at-large members of the 
National Committee; and

WHEREAS, LNC action pursuant to Bylaws Article 7, Section 7 would clear 
all potential doubts as to who the new LNC members are;

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Joshua Smith, Bill Redpath, and Alicia 
Mattson are added to the LNC as At-Large members for a two-year term; 
and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the LNC acknowledges the election of D. 
Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff Neale, 
Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle to the Judicial Committee for a 
four-year term; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a special committee be established to 
present a consensus recommendation to the LNC by September 1, 2019 for 
improving the election scheduling, balloting, and tabulation process of 
LNC elections, with said committee to consist of:
(1) the Party Vice-Chair, who will act as chairperson
(2) the Party Secretary
(3) a designee of the Bylaws & Rules Committee
(4) four Party members appointed by the Party Chair, from among the 
various caucuses in the Party.


JBH


On 2018-07-05 18:04, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> Since we apparently closed the convention without a procedure for
>    populating the JC, is anyone in the mood for a motion to appoint the
>    top seven vote winners as the JC for this term?  I suppose we can be
>    anarchists and live without a JC this term or solicit applications 
> from
>    people who were not nominated at convention.
> 
>    I don't have the top seven names handy, we would have to verify they
>    have been members for four years.
> 
>    --
>    Sam Goldstein
>    Libertarian National Committee
>    317-850-0726 Cell

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   Why start a new committee? Shouldn't this fall under the purview of IT?
   John Phillips
   Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
   Cell [1]217-412-5973

   ------ Original message------
   From: [2]joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business
   Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 6:32 PM
   To: [3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
   Cc: [4]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org;
   Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Judicial committee
I've been thinking about this since the night of the At-Large/JC
election and I do share Ms. Harlos's frustration. I had perhaps 100
delegates who were going to support me already leave by the time we got
to the At-Large election. Complaining about how long balloting and
tabulation took is already the #1 feedback topic I'm getting from Party
members.

That said, I agree with Ms. Van Horn that the Convention did perhaps the
least worst option under the circumstances. I worry that anything we do
that departs from that, be it putting our own people on or keeping the
dead hand of the last JC or sending a mail ballot to all Party members
or some rump thereof, is even more disconnected from the rules we should
be following and destined to be viewed as illegitimate and post-hoc.

I would like to fix it for next time, as I know many of you do. Taking
Mr. Goldstein's suggestion, I took a stab at tackling three birds with
one stone:


WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Convention on July 3, 2018 voted that
the top vote-getters in the At-Large race fill all available At-Large
seats on the LNC; and

WHEREAS, Rule 9 directs that the election of Judicial Committee members
be conducted as the same manner as specified for at-large members of the
National Committee; and

WHEREAS, LNC action pursuant to Bylaws Article 7, Section 7 would clear
all potential doubts as to who the new LNC members are;

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Joshua Smith, Bill Redpath, and Alicia
Mattson are added to the LNC as At-Large members for a two-year term;
and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the LNC acknowledges the election of D.
Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff Neale,
Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle to the Judicial Committee for a
four-year term; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a special committee be established to
present a consensus recommendation to the LNC by September 1, 2019 for
improving the election scheduling, balloting, and tabulation process of
LNC elections, with said committee to consist of:
(1) the Party Vice-Chair, who will act as chairperson
(2) the Party Secretary
(3) a designee of the Bylaws & Rules Committee
(4) four Party members appointed by the Party Chair, from among the
various caucuses in the Party.


JBH


On [5]2018-07-05 18:04, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> Since we apparently closed the convention without a procedure for
>    populating the JC, is anyone in the mood for a motion to appoint the
>    top seven vote winners as the JC for this term?  I suppose we can be
>    anarchists and live without a JC this term or solicit applications
> from
>    people who were not nominated at convention.
>
>    I don't have the top seven names handy, we would have to verify they
>    have been members for four years.
>
>    --
>    Sam Goldstein
>    Libertarian National Committee
>    [6]317-850-0726 Cell

References

   1. tel:217-412-5973
   2. http://joe.bi/
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   4. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
   5. tel:2018-07-05 18
   6. tel:317-850-0726


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